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We love us some Beyonce. We do. But we ran across this article from the blog A Belle in Brooklyn, and the writer has made such a good point, we decided to share it with you. What’s your response?

“So I watched the “Video Phone” video yesterday…

Here’s what I do wonder: what exactly is the difference between Bey, Lil Kim, and say, Trina? Yes, Bey sings, they rap. She can dance too and does her own beats and production whereas it’s still a big question mark if Trina and Kim even write their own lyrics. I fully acknowledge all of Bey’s talents. But content-wise, where’s the difference? Bey’s lyrics are just as materialistic, her video and stage outfits are just as scanty, and she spreads and P-pops it just as good as (if not more and better) than both Kim and Trina in their heyday.

So I’m confused. Is it that Bey cleans up nice for awards shows? That she comes from a two-parent home? That she’s from the ‘burbs? That she manages to be raunchy without cursing? That she’s light-brite and generally assessed as pretty? (just throwing ideas out there.) That she mixes her catalogue of raunch in with empowerment anthems? That she hides her raunchiest side behind an alter-ego, Sasha Fierce so it seems like it’s not really her? (Pause. You have no idea how disturbing I find it that a alleged 28 year old woman feels compelled to express her sexuality solely as a stage persona or an alter ego of said stage persona.) I’m really, really curious where the distinction lies.

CHECK OUR BEYONCE VS. SASHA FIERCE GALLERY!

And so we’re clear, this isn’t me trying to diss Bey. I’m not a hardcore Bey Bey fan, but I’ve got enough on my iPod to do a train ride to work and a three-mile run without doubling up. And though I don’t like all the content she puts out (frankly her film career is mediocre at best), I do respect a woman’s hustle and grind. I am, however, a hardcore Lil Kim fan (no pun) and can recite her debut album line for line. This is not me trying to bring Bey down, more like bringing Kim up, and Trina too, by extension.

VIDEO: Bey Stage Dives In London

How do you get away with lyrics like:

you like it when i shake it / shawty on a mission / wat yo name is? / what you want me naked / if you liking this position / you can tape it / on yo video phone - “Video Phone”

and not be called a bird? Trina and Kim would be torn to bits for rapping about sex on tape, and they were hardly held up as role models. Let’s also keep in mind that 9/10 of Bey songs about men are for “soliders” i.e., dudes with their pants sagging low and in white tees. Picture Wayne (who was in the “Solider” video), or better, Jay… but in his dealing days, ‘cause 9/10 when you see him now, he’s in thong sandals on the beach or grown man sweaters around New York or Londontown. What kind of occupations to dudes you know have if they still wear white tees and sagging pants post-college? Exactly.

IF YOU HAVEN’T SEEN IT YET, HERE IS “VIDEO PHONE”:

And Bey’s just as materialistic as Kim and Trina as we can see from the “Upgrade You” lyrics:

Audemars Piguet watch / Dimples in ya necktie / Hermes briefcase / Cartier top clips / Silk lined blazers / Diamond creamed facials / VVS cuff links / 6 star pent suites

And while she may not curse, she’s just as raunchy. Recite any double entendre on “Ego” and get back to me.

[You got the key to my heart /but you ain't gonna need it / I'd rather you open up my body / and show me secrets / you didn't know what's inside / it's too big, it's too wide / it's too strong, it won't fit / it's too much, it's too tough / he talk like this 'cause he can back it up / he got a big ego / I love his big ego / It's too much]

Beyonce: “Not Time For Kids Yet”

Maybe it’s because she started out pretty wholesome—despite the barely-there bedazzled “costumes.” I mean there was “Independent Women,” “Survivor,” “Me Myself and I” (I’m just gonna overlook “Bills, Bills, Bills,” an entire song about a man picking up the tab, for the sake of my argument.) There was also that song that I can’t remember the title to, but with lyrics, ["Nasty, put some clothes on”]. (Oh, the irony!)

But that’s evolved, into every other single being say… “ Freakum Dress” where women are encouraged to “spin it all around and then take it to the ground.” Or maybe we can refer to, “Ring the Alarm,” where instead of leaving a cheating lover, Bey decides to stay, referencing and recounting all the expensive and name-brand gifts she’ll be missing out on if she bounces. If that doesn’t sound like a bird anthem or the blueprint to a Kim or Trina verse or two, I don’t know what does….

Beyonce & A.Keys Share Duet On “Elements Of Freedom”

I really don’t get it. I mean Kim wore next to nothing on stage, and was damn near stoned. Like Amber Rose, Trina got called all manner of “sluts” and “whores” for her all –Spandex, all the time get ups. But Bey shows up to sing Ava Maria, the “Hail Mary” of Catholic songs, in a leotard and veil and it’s like *crickets” from everyone, including the Catholic church. She shows up at the European Music Awards wearing red lingerie and matching garters on stage and no one bats an eye. A few years back, she gave Terrance Howard a lap dance on the stage for the BET Awards and barely a peep from anyone.

Is Bey benefitting from our relatively high shock-value, a bar raised by the antics of Lil Kim and Trina, so that she can do exactly what they did and not inspire the same level of outrage? Or is there something more to it than that?

I’m honestly confused.”

WHAT DO YOU THINK?

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  • http://www.blackplanet.com/1_AND_ONLY_YONNIE/ 1_AND_ONLY_YONNIE

    LMFAO… I was not expecting that at all!

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/Shamel_/ Shamel_

    This was actually a good read HB!!! Round of applause *clapping*. I agree 100% with everything you said. Although I think Beyonce is beautiful, talented and one of the biggest female “pop” stars of this time I feel like she is ONE DIMENSIONAL. However, as long as their are gays, drag queens, strippers & wanna be barbies she will continue being a Platinum selling artist (smh)! I purchased her first solo effort (Dangerously In Love) and actually thought that was her best yet IMO. At the end of the day…we like what we like. I don’t by her music so it’s whatever *shrugs*. She has a solid fan base and I think they are content with her brand/style of music and performances…it is what it is. I am just sick and tired of real talent being swept under the rug because they are not selling image or sex. India Arie should be multi-grammy award winning artist and so should Jill Scott, Chrisette Michelle, Dwele, Amel Larieux, Raheem Devaugh, Floetry etc. etc. Can the Neo-soul artist get some love??? After Lauryn Hill…it all went downHILL (still smh)! DAMN!!!

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/1_AND_ONLY_YONNIE/ 1_AND_ONLY_YONNIE

    Agree with Shamel

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/MISS_AUTOMATIC/ MISS_AUTOMATIC

    now I am a Bey Bey girl…i own all of her albums and movies lol…but lately i have been feeling the same way….i think that people dont pay as much attention to her lyrics because she is singing them as oppose to rapping them (kinda like country to gangsta rap)…she does need to step it up a notch and show girls that you dont have to be naked to make it lol…check me out rhymin’ and stuff lol

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/0VancouverHurts/ 0VancouverHurts

    I seriously don’t see the big deal. Covered or not, Bey will always hold the crown for being the best performer there is. She is the highest-paid female musician there is so what is the point for making this article either then to once again hate on Bey. Give it a rest! She is not going to cover up for nobody! You can’t just simply tell ppl to change who they are. Her fans individually love her for all different reasons. The difference btwn the trio is that Bey has got extreme talent, as for the other 2 ladies, I love them too they can rap their ass off and they are talented but don’t deliver or have that same magic that Bey gives – that’s pretty obvious. Musicians are not supposed to be your role models, your parents are. And if I had to look up to Bey, the reasons would be bcuz she is hard-working and strives for the best, has goals in her life, ambition, works hard and it all pays out in the end and within it all she still sexy wit it – thats what you call a real woman!

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/Dirtymane2/ Dirtymane2

    This is soooooooooooo easy to answer!LOL…..there’s an old saying applies directly to this question: IT’S NOT WHAT YOU SAY, BUT HOW YOU SAY IT! Example: “BIG EGO” lol……..holla

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/trisha_369/ trisha_369

    I agree with the writer on this topic…I can’t believe im saying I agree with HB. lol I feel you too Shamel_!

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/mizs2hot4tv/ mizs2hot4tv

    lady gaga??? umm that was hella random lol

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/DangerouslyInLove/ DangerouslyInLove

    I agree with this article. When I saw the video for “video phone” I was like whooooa…I’m not a Bey fan either, but I do admit that she’s pretty and she can sing. The one thing I admired about her most was how she carried herself, but as of late, she’s no different from Lil Kim or Trina or Ciara. She’s far from the best singer/performer out there and by doing it like the other female artists out there I think this shows that she ain’t all that.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/Poetic_Princess/ Poetic_Princess

    So true. I’ve been feeling this for years. Bey is on her grind, but she is not appropriate for young girls. Secondly, I thought I was the only one who had a problem with her singing Ava Marie and not regarding how sacred it is. I’m not Catholic, but I was insulted.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/sherrybobbins76/ sherrybobbins76

    Wow, I never really looked at her in that context. I think it absoulutely is a double standard. That video for “Video phone” she looks like a dominatrix. I have always said had Aaliyah had lived, Beyonce would have faded into the background.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/sherrybobbins76/ sherrybobbins76

    And will SOMEONE please tell her that her line “House of Dereon” is SOOO tacky and overworked. Kimmora Lee and Nelly she is NOT.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/misscola3909/ misscola3909

    I see you have done your homework; and you are so right . What more can I say I love them all they so nasty…..yeap

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/2daTopnonStop/ 2daTopnonStop

    Wow~ well well written~

    The writer of this blog isn’t telling a lie~

    BTW~ I’m not giving that video phone video/or song the time of day~ I CAN’T STAND lady gaga~

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/22andlovingit1/ 22andlovingit1

    I TOTALLY AGRREE WITH U BEYONCE LYRICS R GETTING OUTRAGIOUS AND THE OUTFITS SHOULD BE BANNED

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/YOURNAWTEEGIRL/ YOURNAWTEEGIRL

    TRUE ARTICLE
    BEYONCE IS A HOOCHIE
    I THINK SHE’LL SAY/DO WHATEVER IT TAKES TO STAY ON TOP
    I ECSPECIALLY LIKED THE PART WHERE SHE WAS SAYING HOW CRAZY BEYONCE IS FOR NEEDING AN ALTER EGO TO SHOW HER SEXUAL SIDE

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/D_Hunni_Luvin/ D_Hunni_Luvin

    Personally I am a big fan of her dancing and some of her looks. She should go back to the woman she was before she got married cuz now its like shes trying to prove something to us. And she dont have to do that she is multitalented. She shouldnt put any more videos out back to back like she did the b-day cuz shes making herself old, so why not start having children?

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/April_lusciouslips/ April_lusciouslips

    Very well written I agree, Ive felt like that for so long Im so curious what people are scared of noone wants to tell the girl she cant act, all her videos lately have been so nasty, and her lyrics, and yeah Im sure Jayz is confident is his wife he knows shes his but damn what about just plain ol’ respecting your husband, so to stay on top she show her body do nasty things to herself, and wear skimpy clothes and talk nasty and yet get away with it, and still be looked at as innocent,plz!

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/Diary_Of_A_Hustler/ Diary_Of_A_Hustler

    Bey don’t even write her own stuff.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/hellcat4lyfe72/ hellcat4lyfe72

    I admit she’s a beautiful lady,but, as for writting her own stuff? she’s had how many ppl sue her for stealing? There’s not much difference to me as far as their videos with any of them except she’s lighter and tends to not dress like that outside of the vids. Lil Kim sounds alot more proper than Bounce it seems to me she NEEDS to have a ghetto country accent that she thinks all of us has.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/BlackCasper2001/ BlackCasper2001

    It’s simply entertainment. That’s how they make a living.

    N.S. Ugezene

    http://stores.lulu.com/NSUgezene

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/MR_NANASTROKER/ MR_NANASTROKER

    Imma sum this shlt up and I’ll let you guys judge 4 yourself

    theindustryexposed.com has 53 videos I encourage all of you 2 watch them and know what you are being fed!!

    all the glitz and glamour comes with the ultimate price they CHOOSE 2 pay

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/DeeVee8/ DeeVee8

    Finally! an article that makes a person really think! this is very true. Lately she has become a lot more “out there”, and then hides behind the Alter Ego. it’s sounds like a multiple personality disorder to me! I can say this or that, but it wasn’t really “me”. She is up there with Trina and Li’l Kim. the only difference is that she will always appear to be wholesome and clean cut,and her being married makes her appear to be a “good woman”. Because Trina and Kim arent married, that adds to the “hoe” image. But hey, Bey, grab your hoe card too, cuz you officially a member of the Hoe Music Brigade!

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/missonya1/ missonya1

    i totally agree with this article. beyonce has changed so much over the years. she went from a young lady to a video vixen. i agree with another comment that i read on a different blog “i guess pants went out this year”. all of beyonces videos are starting to look the same half naked and grinding… so therefore guys you no longer need to go to the strip club and throw $$$$ pop in a beyonce video and throw dem dolla’s at the screen. i have stated for years that there was no substance behind beyonce, in every interview she looks lost and gives the same blank answer and stare to the host. we all know sex sales but to what extreme, you cant call yourself a role model and then be grinding with the best of them. i do like some of beyonces music not much, but at the same time if it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck its a duck.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/Anaya_Lashea05/ Anaya_Lashea05

    I mean people are just know starting to see this?? Beyonce only started acting like this when she got with JAYZ….we all know he is a freemason…not a real mason…there is a difference…but we ain’t gonna get into that….but moving on, yes we know that…both of them are industry hoe’s now, so what more do you expect? They have racsit ass caucasians behind them so, think about that factor…..I am just so sick and tired of people not seeing what is going on….it’s just irritating.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/Zeru25/ Zeru25

    Its not that hard to see at all. She is “this” Eygpt’s version of Jezabell. She’s dedicated her life to leading the children of Isreal.. “Judah” in particular to their demise. Niggaz female and male (N****r means ignorant thats why white people called us that s**t) need to protect their eyes and ears from the insertion of demons. These women are Eastern Stars and their agenda is to downgrade your standards for yourself. Turn yourself into a w***e because it is popular and everybody is doing it. Make it the norm and nobody will notice it is wrong. This is a spiritual war against you and most people believe it to be mental. She doesnt love you.. any of you. Her recipe is clear. Snag men and women. Her husband is on the same s**t. If you really want to know whats going on.. Go to my page and watch the videos.. They are very accurate.

    My advice to Beyounce fans is pray for her and whatever hold she has on you.. Cleanse yourself thoroughly. Guard your eyes and ears people. Music is not just music. Sometimes its a needle injection or snare. Real talk. We are in the last days man and things like her and this are to disguise the fact.

    You as black people in America are the true Jews of the world. Our behaviors today match what Moses had to deal with yesterday. The people in Isreal arent Jews.. They are Jew”ish”. If I said something was Blue”ish” it wouldnt really be blue.. but a likeness. But i’m not trying to spit on this tread too much. Just enough for the couple of peoople that will see where i’m coming from to recognize what is happening to them. Stay away from the nothingness music. It has more in it than you realize. Be vigiliant people. I love you

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  • http://www.blackplanet.com/Zeru25/ Zeru25

    God is real. He’s not a rumor or some old folk tale told by your Grandparents. The people that created artist like this know this and are pulling His own people against Him to go to war against Him with. They will feed you anything. Financial prosperity, lies, anything to get you in lie before it all comes tumbling down like a load of bricks. God is real yall… Don’t be deceived. You are God’s people.. God’s children. Just like in Eygpt you have been brought here to sustain Phoarah’s way of life and pagan customs. Without you.. America is nothing. With that said. Just be aware of whats going on around you on the real. You are currently in babylon. If you dont believe you are still in eygpt look at the back of your dollar bill. Look at the white house and all the monuments surrounding it. Then google ancient eygpt. You’ll be surprised at what you see. You are the bloodline of Judah. Ancient Hebrews. Wake up from your dream people. Its time to wake up

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/Da_J_Rok/ Da_J_Rok

    There is no difference… I been sayin this “FOREVA”… one thing that I like about this article, is that I dont like any of the names stated above so yeah…. lol @ smucks

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/trisha_369/ trisha_369

    The ONLY differents is Beyonce is MARRIED to JAY-Z…Because she DAMNsure DON’T write HER on MUSIC lyrics. Other THAN that THEY are ALL the SAME.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/Zeru25/ Zeru25
  • http://www.blackplanet.com/sylkiifeather/ sylkiifeather

    wow…a good article for once…*round of applause*

    i dont know what more sad…the fact that there are people who are just now seeing this, or the fact that there are still people on here who read this article and still come up with bs in defense of this chick…

    if you’re a die hard fan then good for you…but damn you just gotta laugh at such comments as “She is the highest-paid female musician there is so what is the point for making this article either then to once again hate on Bey”….if you missed the point of the article then you shouldnt even have commented on it. lmao as usual @ the “hate” comments…

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/The-Chocolate-Man/ The-Chocolate-Man

    She can try to hide it all she want, but Beyonce is a discreet freakkkkkkkkkkkkk!

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/ladyiska/ ladyiska

    i like B and yes its bcuz she is more ladylike then both…and seperates her life out prety gud also the fact that she has been wit the same man n now a married woman just puts her in the success role perfect. admirable trades is important. as for the new futuristic video n gaga its hott hope evryone loves it.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/toodelicious4u/ toodelicious4u

    There’s no difference as far as what she wears on stage and does during her performance! However, Kim and Trina walk around parading their sexual activities in public and in their music while Bey is a little more conservative and leaves you wondering about her personal life. For me Bey has taken the more lady like road and therefore receives more respect than the other women.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/Numb3r1P00h/ Numb3r1P00h

    This article gave me something 2 think abt because I never really thought abt bey persona being the same as trina or lil kim. I will say this Im nt really a fan of either of them bt I do listen 2 each ones music. Probably more so bey’s. Many say that she cant act well I believe yeah shes nt halle berry bt she cant act compared 2 some of these other cross-over celebrities who cant an have tried. Her lyrics and outfits look the same as lil kims and trinas only difference abt the lyrics is she nt actually coming out saying “jump in my p***y” unlike lil kim or trina she says “open my body which is more tasteful”. As for the outfits and dance moves they’re all the same raunchy and thats what sells today. An that alter go s**t cn be thrown out the door honey if you’re freak you’re just a freak no need to make a name for it. And one more thing she really needs to stop putting so many videos and songs out back2back Im sick of it take a break

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/Deyanju1/ Deyanju1

    2 are talentless and one isnt…is that simple….

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/MR_NANASTROKER/ MR_NANASTROKER

    I see some of the women missed a very important message so I will repost it:

    Zeru25
    11-19-2009 10:49 am

    Its not that hard to see at all. She is “this” Eygpt’s version of Jezabell. She’s dedicated her life to leading the children of Isreal.. “Judah” in particular to their demise. Niggaz female and male (N****r means ignorant thats why white people called us that s**t) need to protect their eyes and ears from the insertion of demons. These women are Eastern Stars and their agenda is to downgrade your standards for yourself. Turn yourself into a w***e because it is popular and everybody is doing it. Make it the norm and nobody will notice it is wrong. This is a spiritual war against you and most people believe it to be mental. She doesnt love you.. any of you. Her recipe is clear. Snag men and women. Her husband is on the same s**t. If you really want to know whats going on.. Go to my page and watch the videos.. They are very accurate.
    My advice to Beyounce fans is pray for her and whatever hold she has on you.. Cleanse yourself thoroughly. Guard your eyes and ears people. Music is not just music. Sometimes its a needle injection or snare. Real talk. We are in the last days man and things like her and this are to disguise the fact.
    You as black people in America are the true Jews of the world. Our behaviors today match what Moses had to deal with yesterday. The people in Isreal arent Jews.. They are Jew”ish”. If I said something was Blue”ish” it wouldnt really be blue.. but a likeness. But i’m not trying to spit on this tread too much. Just enough for the couple of peoople that will see where i’m coming from to recognize what is happening to them. Stay away from the nothingness music. It has more in it than you realize. Be vigiliant people. I love you
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  • http://www.blackplanet.com/tweetyh2/ tweetyh2

    Beyonce is too talented to be half naked in every video she puts out. I’m tired of seeing that, she needs to come up with something new

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/Skelly0001/ Skelly0001

    What the hell was the point of this article? The woman is a performer, and she does a goodass job at it. Better than Lil Kim and Trina. And she has talent, and her songs are good to listen to,so if you don’t like the messages she sends in her songs, which are more tasteful ways to saying things than the way Kim and Trina choose to, don’t listen.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/diviine04/ diviine04

    Maybe it’s because when Bey first stepped on the scene she was a “goody twoshoe”, she gained her audience as a group(Destinys Child) then went solo, still a good girl, then she did Crazy in Love and thats when the hoochieness started. Everybody was talking about that booty shake in that video. Now little Kim and Trina were out there from the begining, and any female who hits the music industry with a ego to shake and wear nothing, being females that we are we didn’t like that.Thats the difference, Bey gained her audience first as a singer then went hooch, Kim and Trina always been hootch, and seem like there never cared about the women fans only tried to gain the men.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/atl-angel-bonqu/ atl-angel-bonqu

    Zeru25 big ups to you for stating the REAL TRUTH! But I def. agree with this article!

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/diviine04/ diviine04

    I read what you said Zeru25 and agree with every word. Thank you

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/UnrestricKtedDreamz/ UnrestricKtedDreamz

    I guess because I’m not a huge fan of either of the 3, I never gave any of it much thought. The blog writer definately hit on some things. I guess the things we see from her now is just part of who she is and she hides it behind “Sasha Fierce”. She came out with DC at the ripe age of 16, so of course the song lyrics and outfits were going to coincide with the age as well as the fan base. Now she’s an adult and calling her own shots and has been what we see now ever since. Bey grabbed her female fans as a teenager and began to focus more on her male fans as she got older. Kim and Trina just did so from jump as a previous person said so a lot of females felt some kinda way towards them. Bey is doing the same…but she already had them locked in at the point that she turned so many of them don’t and won’t ever see her in the same light as them because they “like her”. I’m not taking up for Beyonce or Trina or Lil Kim…but I try not to judge ppl at all. However, I see the point the blogger was making as well as Zeru25…I totally agree.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/Zeru25/ Zeru25

    Our people search for a sense of Identity. Our women hold on to these ideas of “Diva” (female version of a devil) and grab so hard and hold on to things they dont agree with but still find themselves connected to this music. How can you say you dont agree with the lyrics/theme/idea of a song and still allow yourself to listen to it and even be seduced to dance to it anyway? Think about that.. You dont like the images and lyrics of the songs but you still rock it in your ipod? Word? Why? Goes straight to your conscious and subconscious. Why do we do that? Because its self hyponistism. Witchcraft.. We want to be Kings and Queens and we feel we have to destroy each other to do so. Why is that? Witchcraft…

    Jezabell was a witch and false prophet who LEAD the children of Isreal away from God. Whenever Jay-z or Beyounce are asked about their religious preferences they always come with the same answer. They are “spiritual”. Hell yeah they are spiritual because they are witches man.

    Do you really think the lyrics to these songs are frivilous? Think about it. Beyounce’s whole career has been a spiritual war against men. Programming you to hate niggaz. What songs does she sing that uplift the people she sings for? Are you uplifted by hating someone else? Does it make you feel better when she redirects the negative energy Phoarah created at a common enemy. Your black man? Men are trained to treat their black women like w***es(@#$2in idiots) threw these paganous Godless videos. And our women in turn follow the ultimate video w***e and keep the self destruction alive and current breaking you down in stages. If you can control the minds of women of any culture.. particularly ours. You can control that culture. Satan targeted Eve in the garden of Eden and he does so in Modern day Babylon as well. So if we can save our women from the influence of Satan guess what? Satan can kiss our ass. Thats what i’m attempting to do writing this novel on this tread..

    You are being set up. Ask yourself. Why doesnt any other culture treat their women like that threw music or any other means. I dont know too many white men who parade their half naked women in music videos. Do you? Most alternative bands are on some other ish. White women dont do an offensive against white men with anthems and hate music EXCEPT IN OUR GENRE. LOL Why is that? You have to start to ask yourself some of these questions..Only time you see a white girl going at men usually is when she is catering to our Genre.. Some female wigger..

    Black men usually when hurt or their egos have been damaged recover themselves by dominating women in some sort. And usually when a Black woman gets hurt she does an offensive on her man in some other part of his life he isnt aware of or doesnt pay much attention to.

    And none of this s**t was created by you but it ONLY DOMINATES YOUR CULTURE. ONLY YOUR CULTURE! Why is that? Because Phoarahs have programmed our people to be ignorant to themselves and who they are. We are Kings and Queens. Not because of the “things” we obtain and how we manipulate our wills in other people’s lives but because of our virtue. Right? Right.

    We gotta let go of these Culture pimps man.. These people that have hold over our trust to lead us in the right direction.

    There are N-gger pastors all over the country taking advantage of our poor trodden situation and just going with it. No remorse. Not trying to help anybody. There is a N_gger in Atlanta named Creflo Dollar. This nigga named himself Create-a-flow-of-Dollars. In short.. Creflo Dollar. Think I’m off? What black woman do you know would name her son Creflo. Come on man… We gotta wake up from the sleep. Christ said alot of people would come in my name but dont be decieved. What better example than a so called “Christ”ian. We are Judah. Period. No crosses to worship. No Mary’s to bow down to. We are decendants of Christ so why would we need to be Christ”ains if we just are…

    But anyway.. Back to Jezebell

    Her steps have been ordered since childhood. Till what she has become now. If it was about the group they would have named it Destiny’s Children… She has been chosen.. Destiny’s Child indeed…

    We all have our own crosses to bear and Christ told us so. We have to earn our spot in God’s presence. Satan offered Christ the world and he said no. We gotta do the same thing. First we gotta indentify the weeds in our gardens. And as men we have to take care of our women. And correct Adam’s mistake in the garden of Eden by watching what fruits you decide to eat…

    Thanks for the love Mr. NS, Atl angel Bouqu, Divine04, Unrestrikeddreamz

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/toodelicious4u/ toodelicious4u

    Damn I thought we were supposed to be writing comments NOT BOOKS! LOL.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/TXLexi1/ TXLexi1

    Man, I just started reading HB and here’s the umpteenth article throwing salt at Beyonce. Your iPod collection may just prove your love of popular music, cause if this is respect, who needs detractors? Corpoarte America pays me, so I have no sacred cows to protect. However, you hit on most of the differences in the two, Beyonce vs. Lil Kim/Trina.
    1)A woman is more provocative than when she’s revealed little by little. Beyonce came to stage and did a strip tease….coy, somewhat wide-eyed and matured into a sex symbol. Kim/Trina came to the stage bare-azzed with a whip, a ball-gag, and a neon arrow.
    2)Americans love stars who mature before their eyes and cameras -Britney Spears, Michael Jackson, Elizabeth Taylor, etc.. Beyonce tried the sweetly empowered little girl thing- the public ate it up. Kim/Trina may have been just as young but they showed up hard, all their child-like qualities were left in the dressing room; the public never got to see a softer, more vulnerable side.
    3)Nobody is a victim!! Both are products offered to maximize market share. Please don’t make this about being light-skinned, having two parents or being from the suburbs. Everybody makes their move toward the top. Kim did by “going hard”, she played it for shock value. Trina followed suit. Beyonce played it a different way. All are selling the same product (a lot of style, little substance) This is like Coke vs. Pepsi. One formula just worked better. They’ve all had incredible lives. Beyonce isn’t one more Houston hairstylist, Kim escaped retail hell, etc… Ain’t nobody mad…

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/MR_NANASTROKER/ MR_NANASTROKER

    Dayum Zeru25 Much needed structure of how and why I pray that people take notice and pay more attention to what they choose 2 embrace
    I will say I appreciate what you delved upon directly and fluently so that these Women know their TRUE ORIGIN

    I have no remorse for Beyonce or any of the artist that choose fame and fortune over their souls NONE

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/Cmoore_78/ Cmoore_78

    Take a moment to look at this and the rest of the videos, it is very interesing.
    http://www.youtube.com/user/Ainesis3#p/c/9A539B0346083889/1/TAqYfYSRZZk

    It is titled Beyonce, Sasha Fierce and Demon possession, it is food for thought. Interesting analysis of the Crazy in Lust because most don’t know what LOVE is..

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/BrownBagDiva/ BrownBagDiva

    Ok after reading this one I just had to say something. I think the difference is the Bey is in a sense every woman. Lil Kim and even my girl Trina don’t show us any other side except the freak me pay side. Since the whole artical focused on Bey my comment is more what I see in her and her music. I am a single mom of 3 I have 2 boys 18 and 10 and my 9 year old daughter I would listen to a lot of Beys music with them I can’t think of 1 song by Kim or Trina I would listen to with my kids in ear shot. Bey shows us the divirsity she has her freak side( and I agree don’t hide behind an alter ego) but she shows all the other parts of her personality too in everything she do. I have seen pictures where Trina look adorable cause she is not wearing the Baddest Chick hook up. So it is a matter of what they choose to show us.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/SaraStokes06/ SaraStokes06

    PREACH!!!

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/SaraStokes06/ SaraStokes06

    we understanding ones love you and thank you too!

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/MR_NANASTROKER/ MR_NANASTROKER

    Zeru25
    11-20-2009 2:36 pm
    Our people search for a sense of Identity. Our women hold on to these ideas of “Diva” (female version of a devil) and grab so hard and hold on to things they dont agree with but still find themselves connected to this music. How can you say you dont agree with the lyrics/theme/idea of a song and still allow yourself to listen to it and even be seduced to dance to it anyway? Think about that.. You dont like the images and lyrics of the songs but you still rock it in your ipod? Word? Why? Goes straight to your conscious and subconscious. Why do we do that? Because its self hyponistism. Witchcraft.. We want to be Kings and Queens and we feel we have to destroy each other to do so. Why is that? Witchcraft…
    Jezabell was a witch and false prophet who LEAD the children of Isreal away from God. Whenever Jay-z or Beyounce are asked about their religious preferences they always come with the same answer. They are “spiritual”. Hell yeah they are spiritual because they are witches man.
    Do you really think the lyrics to these songs are frivilous? Think about it. Beyounce’s whole career has been a spiritual war against men. Programming you to hate niggaz. What songs does she sing that uplift the people she sings for? Are you uplifted by hating someone else? Does it make you feel better when she redirects the negative energy Phoarah created at a common enemy. Your black man? Men are trained to treat their black women like w***es(@#$2in idiots) threw these paganous Godless videos. And our women in turn follow the ultimate video w***e and keep the self destruction alive and current breaking you down in stages. If you can control the minds of women of any culture.. particularly ours. You can control that culture. Satan targeted Eve in the garden of Eden and he does so in Modern day Babylon as well. So if we can save our women from the influence of Satan guess what? Satan can kiss our ass. Thats what i’m attempting to do writing this novel on this tread..
    You are being set up. Ask yourself. Why doesnt any other culture treat their women like that threw music or any other means. I dont know too many white men who parade their half naked women in music videos. Do you? Most alternative bands are on some other ish. White women dont do an offensive against white men with anthems and hate music EXCEPT IN OUR GENRE. LOL Why is that? You have to start to ask yourself some of these questions..Only time you see a white girl going at men usually is when she is catering to our Genre.. Some female wigger..
    Black men usually when hurt or their egos have been damaged recover themselves by dominating women in some sort. And usually when a Black woman gets hurt she does an offensive on her man in some other part of his life he isnt aware of or doesnt pay much attention to.
    And none of this s**t was created by you but it ONLY DOMINATES YOUR CULTURE. ONLY YOUR CULTURE! Why is that? Because Phoarahs have programmed our people to be ignorant to themselves and who they are. We are Kings and Queens. Not because of the “things” we obtain and how we manipulate our wills in other people’s lives but because of our virtue. Right? Right.
    We gotta let go of these Culture pimps man.. These people that have hold over our trust to lead us in the right direction.
    There are N-gger pastors all over the country taking advantage of our poor trodden situation and just going with it. No remorse. Not trying to help anybody. There is a N_gger in Atlanta named Creflo Dollar. This nigga named himself Create-a-flow-of-Dollars. In short.. Creflo Dollar. Think I’m off? What black woman do you know would name her son Creflo. Come on man… We gotta wake up from the sleep. Christ said alot of people would come in my name but dont be decieved. What better example than a so called “Christ”ian. We are Judah. Period. No crosses to worship. No Mary’s to bow down to. We are decendants of Christ so why would we need to be Christ”ains if we just are…
    But anyway.. Back to Jezebell
    Her steps have been ordered since childhood. Till what she has become now. If it was about the group they would have named it Destiny’s Children… She has been chosen.. Destiny’s Child indeed…
    We all have our own crosses to bear and Christ told us so. We have to earn our spot in God’s presence. Satan offered Christ the world and he said no. We gotta do the same thing. First we gotta indentify the weeds in our gardens. And as men we have to take care of our women. And correct Adam’s mistake in the garden of Eden by watching what fruits you decide to eat…

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/blkpuddn/ blkpuddn

    THE WRITER DOES HAVE A POINT…I THINK WE JUDGE LIL KIM & TRINA SO HARSHLY CUZ THEIR OUT & OUT WITH THEIR SEXUALITY & THEIR RAUNCHINESS…WHERE BEYONCE TRIES TO HIDE IT…SHE’S A CLOSET FREAK. EVERY NOW & THEN THAT CLOSET FREAK PEAKS OUT. IM HOWEVER A FAN OF LIL KIM & I ALWAYS RESPECTED HER OUT SPOKENESS FOR BEING WHO SHE IS & EXPRESSING HER SEXUALITY…MINUS THE PLASTIC SURGERY!

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/dottie_03/ dottie_03

    tRUE @ THE ARTICLE…I THINK TRINA N KIM IS JUS HARDCORE DIVAS?..WHEN BEY IS JUS BEY FOR LIL KIDS I GUESS

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/angelishot0/ angelishot0

    That was a hella good blog. She is absolutely right. That video was WOW… I have grown to like beys music… I think she is a wonder perform. But her lyrics is definately written by someone else bc the hood stuff she talks about a person from the burbs would not know… So lets give jay-z some credit here. But I must admit Sasha fierce part of her two album deal was definitely the better cd.

    Until people start screaming.. “WTF Bey! chill out”.. then she will continue to push the envelope.

    As long as better music comes from it, I aint mad… Cuz music lately has been suffering..

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/lissasc08/ lissasc08

    i’m a beyonce fan too but i completely agree with this blog.. i guess the only difference between the trina/lil kim lyrics and beyonce’s is that trina and lil kim are straight and keeping it 100 with their fans.. beyonce is just saying the same thing but with a thicker coating on it.. i guess how you say things really does allow people to have a different opinion

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/The_Voluptuous_one/ The_Voluptuous_one

    It is about time! I agree completely… Bey is a great business woman with lots of talent, but she is not anyone I would want my little girls imitating.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/cristyle_blazin/ cristyle_blazin

    This is seriously funny, American cannot deal with itself? Lil Kim and Trina always put themselves in a more dominant and aggressive position and Bey (as she is so lovingly called) is submissive she accepts the gender roles assigned to her by society and exploits them. Women are supposed to be sweet and kind, she then uses her “alter ego” as a way to do and say what she wants, society doesnt find this to be bad its like being behind closed doors and a lot is acceptabloe there (a lady in the streets and a freak in the sheets)

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/_UnStoPable_/ _UnStoPable_

    I c far too much similarities btwn them 3.cant pinpoint the differences though.their styles are all pretty much flamboyant which must be a trend thing.Bey is more level headed and indepedently doing it for herself,which is evident in her success.Dont necessarilly agree with how she’s climbing to the top but it is good to see any young black lady succeed.Lil kim is apparently dealing with some self-hatred issues and currently identity crisis.and Trina who?where has she been?

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/soveu34/ soveu34

    Lmao at that video is just plain stupid lol….

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/truthserumX/ truthserumX

    The difference? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YmWX174bsuU

    Respect.

    Not that Beyonce deserves more respect she gives the illusion, the ILLUSION, that she deserves more respect.

    She has over the years planted seeds that she is of a good upbringing and was raised in the church and thus she’s “morally” sexy and doesn’t go “over the top” with her sex appeal.

    It’s the difference between a high class hooker, glamorous and dressed on Dior but still demanding the money on the table before she spreads her legs.

    Really, the injustice is on our heads, and our heads alone. Her job is to lure women, mostly the young ones, into believing this is how a “woman” is to behave. He job is to over-sexualized our minds, and in the end cause chaos. How many young girls run around spreading their legs while say “put a ring on it?” Isn’t that every mistresses theme? How many young women run around gyrating and shaking about screaming “I’m booty –lishes look at me,” now is this really all that “classy” is this really the “morals” we want OUR young women to develop? Really?

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/UnrestricKtedDreamz/ UnrestricKtedDreamz

    @cristyle…interestingly accurate way to look at it.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/truthserumX/ truthserumX
  • http://www.blackplanet.com/usabkny/ usabkny

    man that was dumbest song i ever heard video phone? what happen to real talent and singers who had soul and dept in their songs today you hear everything from f!@king to sucking something and selling drugs when did rnb become that? rappers what to be singers and singers want to be rappers

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/trulock11/ trulock11

    Those were very vaild observations of Bey, I strongly agree. Thanks for the very true points.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/TOTALBODYIMAGE/ TOTALBODYIMAGE

    THIS IS MY SECOND TIME READING THIS ARTICLE. I LOVED IT. KUDOS TO THE BROOKLYN BELLE! I WANT TO HEAR MORE FROM HER.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/v_baby2001/ v_baby2001

    All of these points were very true. However, “Bills, Bills, Bills” was about a man paying the bills that he was running up not him picking up the tab. Food for thought: How do you go from being “Independent Women” to being a “Cater 2 You” servant?

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/Anaya_Lashea05/ Anaya_Lashea05

    @Zeru25

    I can agree with you to a certain extent, but they are taking the Ancient African Spiritual system = Kemetic= Egyptian( for those that don’t understand what I am talking about) and twisting it around, they are following Freemasonry, but just as in any religion or spirituality, the people who follow them can use it for positive means or negative means, they just happen to be using it negatively. When you start talking about the Pharaohs (Egypt or Kemet) You are talking about Our ancient ancestors (Africans of course) we need to study that part of our history before we believe what the bible says….

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/Zeru25/ Zeru25

    Symbols created for this Religion.. This shame all point to the same spiritual destination. We can list everything we want. But everything from 5%ers to Masons share the same system telling the same stories in different ways trying to convince everybody in each group that they are special when they are not.

    Its all the same.

    Demonic. You are right.. there are things the bible are missing because of the roman catholic church. Took out a part called the apocrapha.. Very important and completes the bible and our history. Im glad you know about those things. Not alot of people do.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/JerzeeLicious/ JerzeeLicious

    Yeah she is just like Kim and Trina but the fact is that she will sing songs without cussing and str8 nasty talk like they do .. it doesn’t scare white people so they Love her more than the other two dats all .. she is still saying and doing the samethings she just hides before Sasha .. I like Bey’s style and voice but I would follow Kim and Trina cause they say what Bey really wants to say but can’t..

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/Tam_Tam7/ Tam_Tam7

    Nice evaluation! I actually enjoyed reading this article.
    usabkny – GREAT POINT!!! What ever happened to real R&B? What ever happened to REAL singers that could sing live w/ out a voice over. What ever happened to the entertainers that were more concerned with singing in tune, rather than lip-singing so that they will not miss a dance step.
    lissasc08 – True comment… I guess it does just have a thicker coating on top, but the underlying package is exactly the same.
    Enjoyed reading everyone’s comments!!!

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/ms_real2008/ ms_real2008

    Well, i loved the reading and its a great article. The difference between Bey, Lil Kim and trina is that they cuss in their lyrics and some people may feel that its too raunchy while Bey talks about the same sexual topics in a classy manner which may have some men belive that she’s a lady in the streets and a freak in the bed.
    At the end of the day, the author of this article is right and it is based on the fact that they’re overly raunchy while bey may cover it up

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/hope1999/ hope1999

    As a WOMAN you should know how to turn it off or turn it on when necessary. Every occassion doesn’t call for scantiness. So while performing you give people what they want to see which is the scanty side, that’s what makes the money. While interviewing or just being in the audience turn it off be classy……When you are the club shaking it your turning it on, when you go on a job interview, you turn it off.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/stephanie7777/ stephanie7777

    This is a really good question..I think Bey has that good girl/bad girl thing(that men love sooo much)

  • http://hellobeautiful.com/your-world/already-beyonce-to-release-album-in-2010/ Already? Beyonce To Release Album In 2010 (VIDEO) | Hello Beautiful

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  • http://www.blackplanet.com/Ladi_Teflon/ Ladi_Teflon

    IT ALL COMES DOWN TO ONE SIMPLE POINT…..SHE’S A LADY IN THE STREETS…BUT OBVIOUSLY A FREAK IN THE SHEETS…….WOMEN IDENTIFY WITH HER BECAUSE SHE PRESENTS HERSELF AS A LADY IN PUBLIC. MEN IDOLIZE HER BECAUSE HER SONGS AND MAY PERFORMANCE OUTFITS SHOW A FREAKY SIDE. KIM AND TRINA CATCH A RAW DEAL BECAUSE THEY ARE STRAIGHT HOOD AND DONT APOLOGIZE TO ANYONE FOR THAT. I LIKE BEYONCE, KIM, AND TRINA. I AM BY NO MEANS HAD THE UPBRINGING THAT BEYONCE HAD AND WAS FAR FROM THE HOOD LIKE KIM AND TRINA. BUT I IDENTIFY WITH KIM AND TRINA MORE AND RESPECT THEM MORE BECAUSE THEY DONT MAKE APOLOGIES FOR WHO THEY ARE AND THEY DONT SUGAR COAT IT. TO ME SASHA FIERCE IS JUST A FRONT FOR BEY TO SAY, WEAR, AND ACT THE WAY SHE WANT, WITHOUT BEING JUDGED FOR IT…..JUST MY OPINION

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/GTPRINCESS25/ GTPRINCESS25

    90% PRECENT OF THESE STARS ARE NOT HAPPY WITH THEMSELVES….THEY GO HOME TO AN EMPTY HOUSE NO MAN NO KIDS JUST THEM AND THEIR MATERIAL ITEMS SMH WAT A SHAME. SHE HAS TO HIDE BEHIND THIS MADE UP EGO THAT TRULY IN FACT SHE MAY NEED SOME MENTAL HELP. NOT SURPRISED IF I SEE HER ON CELB REHAB.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/Misss_Taja/ Misss_Taja

    u are the best A BELLA IN BROOKLYN and with u 100% precent

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/TOTALBODYIMAGE/ TOTALBODYIMAGE

    YES BELLE, THERE IS SOMETHING MORE TOO IT.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/sothikwitit1/ sothikwitit1

    u know its crazy cuz all this time and now finally someone brin6s it to the li6ht.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/TashG/ TashG

    Ok and we’re just now realizing this?? She’s no different then Kim and Trina. Idk people continue to put her on a pedestal. She may have started off innocent but that was back during her Destiny’s Child days…a LONG time ago

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/A_Christina/ A_Christina

    Bey is an entertainer and sex sells. She is not in the industry to become an idol or hero. Period. As for the Bills, Bills, Bills comment: The song is about the woman letting her man borrow her stuff but he abuses her things. She gives him the credit card and he can’t pay what he spent on it. He uses the car but won’t put gas in it. He uses her cell phone to call everybody under the sun and can’t go half on that bill. Etc. Personally, I’m with Bey over Kim and/or Trina anyday just because I enjoy the range of her music more.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/missstrings43/ missstrings43

    OMG! This is some real funny shi**!!!!.. Ha! I am lovin’ it!
    When you come up with an answer…please ..DO SHARE!
    Go BEE!

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/baknfx09/ baknfx09

    Its a damn shame that she even met Kayne cuz he gonna turn her into another Diddy on ery damn thing and make u sick of her i mean its one thing to make great music consecutively but anotha to be greedy and on everything leave that to ur hubby girl Hov is way betta at the music business and as far as Kim stop suckin dick and gettin plastic surgery u were a real woman back in the day now u jus a hot mess and look like a used condom in the face. Trina is the s**t always has been an always will be that is my girl she says what she feels and she is sex appeal to the fullest in the realest and she doesnt have to be a s**t to prove it so u go girl…i miss aalyiah she was a true diva and the true princess of r an b rip baby we miss and need someone like u to come bak an blow us away

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