Yes there are cultural differences between African and Africa Americans, but at the end of the day, BLACK IS BLACK. We are both black. If anything Africans are more black because they are the originators of The Black Race. I hear African Americans refer to Africans as not being black and Africans not referring to themselves as black, which is so dam ignorant. For example, i have an eritrean friend and when she describes herself, she might say ” I’m african and my friend is black”. I used to be( i am still) like ” we are both black, why do you say that?” Our skin color and background of where most of our descendants came from are what make us black. Now saying ” I’m african and my friend is african american” makes sense. Anyway all the men up their are that deal, excluding seal.

Just because them niggas African dont mean anything… they are products of the country that they reside in, don’t believe the hype… I done met some Pure Blood Africans and Hollywood aint in them

Truth be told, most African’s don’t identify with us “culturally”. They do not like the fact that we identify ourselves as AFRICAN Americans either! However, we have adapted this term in our culture but we have minimum knowledge of it (myself included). I readily identify myself as a black woman or American as opposed to “African American”. This article has SOME truth to it. The Africans that I have encountered (that are not “AMERICANIZED”) tend to value education, family, and the covenant of marriage and treat women like QUEENS. I can say the same for many Jamaicans (and/or Carribean) or West Indian men. Florida is a melting pot so I have learned a lot about other cultures while living here that I was completely oblivious to while living in Michigan (my home). Interesting!

I spent many years in Europe in the ninties and met many African men and women. Most pure africans don’t consider black Americans African. I think Africans appreciate the things most blacks take for granted, such as education. In most African countries only the rich go to school. I have traveled to many coutries in this world and there is none better than the USA. Most of u black Americans (U know who u are) that try to keep it real are going to fall by the way side. There is no black or white anymore, it is rich, middle class and low income. If u fall in that low income area, you are in a world of hurt in this high tech age. Stay in school and get that education that most of our parents and grand-parents fought for.

I have disagree with some of the things in this blog. Americans take monogamy seriously? Since when?……it is a perception that people dont cheat on their spouses. With the staggering hiv+ rate I would suspect that something is happening that shouldn’t be. And have you heard of people participating in such things as swinging and open relationships right here in the states? Also, some of the points are stereotypical generalizations. You can’t say all africans or black americans when making your points. The title of the blog in itself is somewhat skewed. There may be some traditional african-american men that possess some of the qualities you assigned to traditional african men.

And no offense but in these days/times you’d better have more than swagger going for you to compete in a highly competitive global market. I am sorry but swagger and street cred mean nothing to me if you dont have education, a trade, a skill, or something. I dont even know where that came from. Most educated, professional women are looking for someone that has equal education or is gainfully employed. That’s the reason so many professional sisters are alone. they can’t find anyone on the same page in terms of education, career-level.

I am of the mindset that there are good/bad attributes in all groups of people. At one point in our history, we did value education much more than we do today. Now some in the black community equate being educated and speaking correct english as trying to be “white”. Unfortunately, too many of us only look at the world in terms of America and don’t care that there is a whole other world of people that live differently than we do. However, we as Americans only view things in terms of America. And that’s irrespective of whether we’re black or white.

Far too many black americans ever travel outside of our comfort zones let alone out of the country. I would be willing to bet that more whites travel to Africa and experience the culture than most of us do. Now, why is that?

There is a great deal of suspicion and misunderstanding between native africans and african-americans. Some of it has to do with our history and the effects of racism and colonialism. But, there are alot of misconceptions by both groups about the other. It is similar to the interactions between some african americans. It’s ironic that some of us tend to treat whites better than we do people that look like ourselves. We still have alot of work to do.

I am truly sorry to see an article like this disseminated as fodder for discussion among black people. I am ashamed by the fact that it was written by a black person.

Despite the fact that we have suffered egregious harms as a result of false generalizations, McCoy dares to level them at her own people in her audience. In a short article, McCoy foists no less than SIXTEEN ridiculous and unsupported stereotypes, degrading Africans and African Americans of both sexes. She completely ignores the massive distinctions of country, social structure, class, religion, economy, local culture, family, personal experience, etc. that influence and diversify individual opinions. McCoy writes as if the entire continent of Africa and the entire country of the US are single-minded monoliths in which everyone thinks the same way. Haven’t we fought against that idiocy for too long? Don’t we call that racism when those ideas are voiced by white people?

We should all be insulted…

it depends on the culture and region,but alot of brothers from the mother land do believe in keeping things in order(AND WHEN I SAY ORDER I MEAN ORDER)slappin a sista in the mouth aint shyt for a niggah from nigeria to do.but when its done he better have a damn good reason for it or he’ll pay a price from his and her elders.their struggles are closer to the native american than ours,and im sure they know this so they know that it would’nt be an america for their blacks azzes to come to if it were’nt for those who ended up on slave ships.AND PLZ THERE BLACK AZZES AINT GOT SHYT WE AINT CAUSE IF THEY DID THEY WOULD’NT BE IN THE FIRST PLACE,HOW YOU GOINGTO BE THE MOTHERS AND FATHERS OF CIVILIZATION AND LET THE CRACKER TAKE UR BROTHERS AND SISTAS ACROSS THE WATER TO BUILD THEIR LAND AND THEN RUN UR TIRED AZZES OF UR OWN LAND.niggahs and flys are attracted to the same shyt and ive had no problem educating niggahs from the motherland,and most i know listen with open ears and eyes.hell we know more about their shyt than most of them do.so if you have problems with one or two million send them fools to me and we can talk for real.

WTF seal got nail polish on for??? eeewwwwwwhhh
Also i very much agree with Kenny he took the wordz out of my mouth!

another retarded blog posted!!!! I agree with: Mellowbrown, Shamel_, and svf67 comments…when are New Yorkers going to stop with everything revolves “us” thought process.. and keep that s**t thinking to yourself!!!

P.S ole retired USAF NCO traveled all over the world, been to Africa seven times (twice for combat) ….have you????

I have heard of a whole lot of brothers right here in the good ole usa that have no qualms with smacking females, setting them on fire, and I believe not too long ago Chris Brown beat his equally-as-famous girlfriend Rihanna up??? I am sorry but slapping women isn’t exclusive to nigerians. Domestic violence cuts across racial, ethnic, cultural, and economic groups. And I do have to disagree that most of us really know much about others particularly in Africa. We know what the media and the gatekeepers of the information (mainstream, whites) have depicted about Africa. And at the same time alot of people in other parts of the world have a negative view about black americans. Again, they only know what has been portrayed through the media about us. I would say that too many non-Americans think that all blacks rap, wear bling-bling, have a bunch of children, and rely on the government for everything. Now most of us know that is an extremely myopic depiction of who we are as blacks in America. However, far too many non-Americans believe that. It is extremely dangerous to suggest that”all” of a given group do something in particular that is negative or positive.

Normally, we are shown the poverty in these countries not the development. As someone that has travelled to W. Africa I got to see first hand that yes poverty is existent BUT there’s also alot of development, too. So, suffice it for me to say that anywhere in the world there exists your poor and more economically advantaged areas. Throughout the U.S. there are poor and affluent areas, too.
The contrast being that in the states the poor have it better than those in poor areas of Africa, Haiti, etc. This country and its citizens are blessed and we take it for granted far too often than not. Yet at the same time I am confident that there is a segment of the population in any country that are affluent at the expense of the poor. Greed is rampant throughout this world. Some have capitalized, exploited, and profited off of the suffering of others. The practice is a universal phenomenon. And you can best believe that the pursuit of money is at the root of alot of the corruption,too.

whoa whoa whoa this is not all correct i am Nigerian born and raised my whole life and i can tell you that not all African women believe that all men cheat that is the most useless piece of information here. All my friends and family are African as well from all parts of Africa and we do not have that mentality. There are some ethnic groups that tend to be ok with polygamy but not all and its mostly in the older generation so go do your research and comeback. Africa is a huge continent – West African Culture is waaaay different from South African Culture and East African Culture and North African so when you say Africa you might need to get a little more specific.

Just what we needed. More divisive crap. Thanks!!!!

African men get help from the goverment in jobs, schools, and employment; Me graduated from high school, went to college and got a s**tty job with no help from my college(got a degree in Graphic art)! Asked for scholarships, but got rejected, got very little financial aid(I had to pay a month salary to cover the rest of college), and ended up working for a racist ass boss with trashy people, uncle toms-no ball licking brothers(Never done it, never will-that’s why my boss rides and criticize me) and the foreigners who gets treated better than the African Americans her…oh Soimetimes I WISH I was from Africa to get what was denied of me years ago here……

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Akon and Seal is not traditional Africans

if they are so much of a traditional african american man, why do they wife up all these white women, someone please answer my question, because I am dying to know. Another thing, you think that white women would be with Seal if he was broke. SMH

ignorances ignorance.First off I am half nigerian and half american and have a few other things in me.I feel like black is black.A person who thinks that just because someone is from Africa that makes them more blacker is obviously incoherent and not registering normally upstairs,if ya know what i mean.Black is black,lets not ever forget that.whites will look your az up and down and place you in THAT SAME CATEGORY.lets snap out of the spell! one thing i notice is that many black americans are so quick to say that they are anything but black.Atleast Nigerians will tell you yes I am black and say it with confidence,there is no denying it.AND YES THERE ARE MIXED race AND WHITE PEOPLE widespread in AFRICA in countries such as Nigeria, south africa,gana and etc.

I have a question. why is it that people say AFRICA as if it was a country in itself?if ya talking about something you saw or heard,s**t where the hell in africa did it occur?it seems like some people are not aware that Africa is a continent with many many countries within it.People!please educate yourselves.some of you’ll are dumb az hell and have absolutely no shame.It is sort of embarrassing when your black to be that lost and sound that dumb in the presence of WHITES.when you put africa down,you are indirectly denying yourself and putting part of you down.

there is a brother right below me stating that AFRICAN MEN GET GOVERNMENT assistance SO ON AND SO ON which might be a reason why many are as successful.I wouldnt say that AFRICANS GET ASSISTANCE.I DO UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU are implying,but dont agree because it seems like your again,blaming someone else for your failures/when it is merely all about you,your goals and how you basically made your bed.there are some brothas who are highly educated but have a stank az attitude and thinks the world owes them just b/c they went to college/own a house/have a white wife/good credit and etc.lol which is crazy because Most Nigerian men that I know that bust their az’s in school.became the Dr.the nurse, or the engineer and etc did it through hard work.just because you’ve gotten a degree or two doesnt mean work ends there.Their attitudes are just different/they dont walk around with that type of attitude.so if a black american feel like Africans come here and DO THEIR THING,keep in mind that it is through perseverance,concentration,being goal oriented and dedicated as opposed to a stank az attitude and being str8 up gangsta 24/7,if you know what I mean.and believe me EMPLOYERS CAN EASILY READ YOU WHEN YOU WALK IN FOR AN INTERVIEW.there is a difference between a str8 up NEGRO and a black man.differentiate them!

It seems like africans talk smack about african americans and vis a versa.this again had originated by of course the caucasions.I swear black people are the most disjointed living group of people in the nation.we allow white people to feed our heads in history class with lies.how gullible is that?Now if you believe half the smack you here about Africa than your az needs to edumacate yourself because you are a walking air head in disguise.so,smack yo self!

These foreign actors above are representing what real men should be like.check their records and see if any of them have been in and out of jail or constantly in trouble with the law.this, i doubt.again they are very good examples and instead of haten, why not learn from these type of men.sistas why are some of you’ll not attracted to men like these handsome,intellectual ooooh,why the gangstas and the brothers who cant provide nor handle theres,if you know what i mean.My point is that ive noticed that there are way too many NEGROS TODAY and not enough black hard working men which is soo sad.There are brothers who create problems and then run, thinking their az is a prime example of man,NEGRO you are a prime example of a str8 up n****r.

There are Nigerians that I know that have come to this country and messed up their lives get’n mixed up with the wrong people and so on.so not all foreigners have it going for them.but most do.Lets not forget a whole lot of our new generations are from all over the world, born here but still say that they are from anywhere but here. SO this article is partially true up until “Africa men are the bread winners.”sweety lets snap the hell out of it! it is 2009, women in Nigeria are doing their thing and owning businesses.I am not sure about the rest of the countries.

BUT TRY TO SPECIFY WHERE EXACTLY IN AFRICA YOU ARE PERTAINING TO, remember Africa is a continent and not a jungle.Us in this country,some of us are some lazy mofo’s which is evident on attempting to get an education.Some of you’ll would rather mess up and get locked up just to avoid going to school.My guess is possibly because people are afraid to fail and do not set high standards.we as a people need to unite and fight with our minds(become the Dr./the judge/the engineers/the producer and not so much of the consumer.

I apologize if I typed too much,but hell if people are stuck on ignorance,and someone slapped the truth into them,their dumb az still wont GET IT.This is a never ending hot topic.only ignorant fools will find it wearisome and uninspiring.calling all airheads…please,wake up!

Im African and im sorry i have a hard time believing men dont cheat..except for my Dad and brother:) I have issues with how some African men take liberty cheating openly…not to say some African american men, or other men dont. Its often true education is priority, and men are taught to take care of their families. African american men seem more affectionate, and man are they sexy!!

Ps re government financial aid – my guess is few do that, i know mine doesnt do a whle lot of that. There are waaayy more opportunities for African americans than Africans.

Pss. Africans and African americans, not that different, just different experiences

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Some men cheat, some don’t African or otherwise. It’s not a culture thing, but a moral thing. And if women flock to traditional African men because they are more “generous upfront”, then maybe the African American man has a good reason not the trust the African American woman.

This is not the best article, as it perpetuates stereotypes. Africa is a vast land with various cultures, so it’s pretty ignorant to lump all African men and all African American men. All I can say about the polygamous thing, is that there are plenty of Af. American men that are polygamous. What do you think a baby mama is??? One of many.

Also, I do agree that African men take the head of household role more seriously from the beginning of the relationship. Spending money on women is not necessarily connected to sex, as African men in the company of women, will easily pick up a check, because he’s a man. This is not to say an American black wouldn’t do that, but one thing that African men do is pick up the check. Its more of a manner’s thing, and not about sex. Are they more generous? Not sure, but I think its a cultural thing to take care of women when it comes to going out.

I do think some African American men should let go of the gold digger thing, when they really dont do anything for women at all but expect the world. Thats my biased view of the American men I know.

One thing I cant stand is an African person coming in here who is apparently uneducated making uneducated assumptions.NONICAB go and educate yourself sweety.everything you just said was completely ludercrs.I have dated african mn in the past and never had any issues like the one you have stated.maybe its the type of men you date.

Just because the african men surrounding you are failures doesnt mean you should instill that mentality and go about believing they all are.again,ignorance.men of any ethnicity will cheat, it depends on the person and not their ethnicity.and also like i said, there are far too many african professors,Drs,engineers and etc in the U.S.where in the world are you hiding @ to not notice that?in the ghetto?sweety snap out of your ignorance and go read a book.sit’n up in here spreading your ignorance and lies…smh

First of all this whole article is just bull….There is no “American” and those that opted for this dumb term “african american” kill me because there is not such thing as american, I dont waste my time with these labels…I am either of African descent or I am possibly of those that were already here. We need to get off the tip of these lables and just deal with the MAN, I have dated both and honestly a BLACK man is going to either be right or wrong, some are wrong either because of their environment or choices they have made, and there are also some African men that do just about the same, what I find sad is that the African man today is becoming more so called “americanized” and also lost on the bogus religions that just keep folks asleep. If we really went deep into our diaspora, we would find that the true lines practiced polygamy from pre-dynastic times and dynastic. Once you start to understand self, these articles and information really are not that important.

@ understandinman akon is a traditional african he was born in segal! Some african men are sexy but not really! lol I can’t stand their accent. But love em american boys!!!!!!!! God Bless America!

WTF-COME ON PEOPLE FIRST YOU GOT TO CLEAR YOUR NAME BEFORE YOU CAN CALL SOMEONE ANYTHING-MEANING IF YOU WAS BORN AND I MEAN PUSHED OUT-IN A HOSPITAL OR WHERE-EVER IT MAY HAVE HAPPEN-IN THE USA-THAT MAKE YOU A BLACK AMERICAN NOT AFRICAN AMERICAN. NOW IF YOU WAS BORN IN AFRICA AND MOVED TO AMERICA AND YOU PLAN ON STAYING FOR THE REST OF YOUR LIFE AND GOT YOUR GREEN CARD-THAT WOULD INFACT MAKE YOU AN AFRICAN AMERICAN. NOW OUR ROOTS RUN BACK TO AFRICA…AS FOR YOU WHO WAS BORN IN AMERICA STOP GIVING UP YOUR TRUE TITLE OF WHO YOU REALLY ARE AN BLACK AMERICAN. I KNOW THATS WHAT I AM-I HAVE NEVER BEEN TO AFRICA NOR WAS I BORN THERE-SO THERE FOR I SEE MYSELF AS A BLACK AMERICAN…YOU DON’T HEAR WHITE PEOPLE COMING ON THE NET SAYING THEY ARE SOMETHING ELSE OTHER THAN WHITE AMERICAN. NOW TO THE DIFFERENTS YES ITS ALOT OF DIFFERENTS-DEALING,WITH MEN-BUT,NO ONE MAN IS THE SAME NOMATTER IF HE IS BLACK,WHITE,BLUE,RED OR GREEN…AND FROM MARS. YOU ONLY GET BACK WHAT YOU GIVE IN A RELATIONSHIP AN THAT IS IF YOU GIVE 50/50. I KNOW ALOT OF YOU WANT AGREE AND THATS YOUR RIGHT-IM JUST GIVING MY OPINION.

Yes Its have good dating partner ,No brother it is black or white.Its wonderful article.

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“Traditional African”??????? WTF ? These men and women are AFRICAN, not traditional, not African-American, just AFRICAN. Most of them will date a black American woman/man in order to get their green card – once they got that, they will divorce the woman/man to marry an African girl or man. As Americans are “loose” compared to their African values, they do not have a problem cheating on them. In longer lasting marriages, sooner or later a younger “sister”, “cousin” or so will turn up in the marital home, allegedly to study in America. If the wife pays close attention, she will then have opportunity to find her husband on top of the so called sister. Do NOT co-finance houses to be built in Africa! They are ALWAYS only in the African partner’s name and are just gone once you get divorced. The same applies to companies in Africa.

There is no such thing as a traditional african any more than there is a tradtional “african american”. i think the more apt description will be a “continental african”.
There is a huge cultural gap between the two sets of people and thats to be expected.However the article does not research the subject matter or even pretend to do so. It simply reharshes ridiculous stereotypical notions attributed to both sets of people..thats a pretty lazy blog if you ask me.
African men may date or marry an african american lady and if the basis of the relationship is solid it will last, a polygamous instinct is no more natural in african men than it is in all men of other cultures. if an african man cheats on you and makes no attempt to hide he probably doesnt care much for you.
I am a continental african so i should know, I believe that the main reason the relationship between the two groups dont work is differences in outlook and priorities. We tend to be family oriented and invest much in formal education., we also tend to come from families where both parents are present so we yearn to replicate the very same family values of our parents.
We usually have live in both cultures so we are in a better position to make informed decisions. We are not under pressure to prove our masculinity or street cred, it has no real value to us. Our role models tend to be our parents or close family members not “stars”.
I have been married for over ten years and never cheated, the next time your continental african man cheats on you…maybe he suspect you of infedility too.
African men marry whites and it usally works out just fine…you know why?…. because most of the time they have the same priorities.

I am a Black male born in America. There is very little comparison , other than physical appearance, between the African born and the American born Blacks. The American born Black is imitated by all males of any race around the world. We set the trends in most of American culture. The relationships we have were first born of necessity,then cultivated to fit the times,now reflecting the times. We are forever changing, because American tradition will not always work for us. We live under a different set of standards and rules in this country ,than any or all others that live or visit here. We have the ability to adapt to the cituation,and all others will follow . African males date whites preferably, because that’s a status symbol that they as others have been taught by the rest of the world to desire. Real Black women have no problem with who they relate to, but then that’s a Black thing.

Most African-americans are not educated enough to know that Nigeria, Ghana and other African countries speak authectic ‘QUEEN’S-ENGLISH” due to the fact that these African-countries were colonized by the same “slave-masters” that brought our fore-parents to this American continent as slaves.

The word Black-America was changed to African-America in the 90′s, why, just to let all African-Americans know their origin.
The Colonial-Masters are not Americans but the British & French mainly.

Africans were slaved to build this U.S.A.
And who are America-citizens of today? — korean, Japanesse, African, French, Caucasian (every-one in the US call them “White”).

Well, l’m from Nigeria, l spent seven years in London (England) b/4 making it to the U.S., in 1990.
And l will like all, mainly Africans-Americans to know that we Africans, mainly Nigeria are better educated than African-Americans, in all aspect of modern western-education.

And we African don’t hate fellow African-Americans but most Africans scared of African-American because of all this shooting, stabbing of Americans — killings period.

We all one; it doesn’t matter how you become a citizen of the US. a.k.a — Osollo – Olivet,Nigeria.

turns out i learned absolutely nothing from this article. its my opinion that african males seem to be more demanding. they tend not to date american born blacks they will more than likely go for someone else born in africa or a white person.

What about comparing African American men to Afro-Europeans (England and such)? How about comparing “Traditional” African men to Cuban African men? Compare African Caribbean men to Brazilian African men and then Brazilian African men to African men in Australia. We are all African, we are Black, we are all Men. Good, bad or indifferent.
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I hate to say this Von, but by you even making the ludicrous statement that African men don’t have issues about gold digging and then mentioning that most of them are here to attain multiple degrees (which means landing a better job and in turn making more $$$$, or at least thats the bullcrap that people will feed into your head), and then stating that women have a tendency to chase the guys with the most “swagger” ( in your context confidence that is fueled by material gains, Damn, I hate that f**king term!) only adds to the belief that most Black American Women only seek a partner that will enrich them whilst they exert no effort to enrich themselves. Also to group all of the various nationalities, ethnic groups and cultures in Africa into one large category is, dare I say, quite rudimentary to say the least. I know African Men and women from different nations and they are as faithful and as unfaithful to their spouses as much as the next person. Also if they were to see that the person that they were with was “using” them under the false pretense of love then they’d drop them like diarrhea. As far as the elders thing goes, most of the African born youth that I’ve encountered are usually trying so hard to downplay their ethnicty that you couldn’t tell that they were unless you really paid attention to the slightest of details. But then again maybe like other immigrants they are trying to assimilate much like our ancestors (from Africa, I don’t give a s**te what colour you may be) had to do when they encountered these shores!
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I am from West Africa, Liberia. The article was on point in the few reasons given but it was not exhaustive. Also, I think it was a little stereotypical because what was stated is NOT the attitude of ALL african men and the same goes for african american men. The writer should have used the term ‘most’ or ‘some’ in discribing the two groups.

As for other comments, I think there is a reason most african will date a white woman or other races than an african american girl. I was bone and raised in africa and I know how africans feels about african americans before they come here. THEY LOVE THEM, ARE PROUD OF THEM AND WISH TO SEE A LOT OF THEM IN AFRICA THAN THE WHITE. NOT ONLY CERTAIN CELEBRITIES BLACKS, BUT REGULAR AAs. THEY SEE A REFLECTION OF THEMSELVES, THAT, eventhough africa is slow and behind, their BROTHERS (african americans) are doing great in America. However, all of those feelings are based on what they see on tv. They are disappointed to some degree after they come here. 1. Most AAs do look at Africans as different. 2. They look at them as ignorant. 3. They don’t appreciate africa wholly because they have not being there. etc. The white however, have being there, have come to appreciate the place, the people and most don’t think that Africans are ignorant to the rest of the world, that they have a whole lots of good qualities that they can learn from, and they treat africans with respect from the get go. So most Africans come here and after they notice the difference, try to prove to the african Americans that they are not what some think they are. To most Africans, it is a challenge to prove themselves. Thus the reason for the pursuit of higher education, the dating of other girls. Notwithstanding, I have come across many intelligent African Americans. I wish I could say more but I can’t.

As an African-American woman who was with a Nigerian guy for 8 years, who is also the father of my child and was very much a part of the Naija (short for Nigerian) lifestyle during this time, I can assure you there ARE differences-not all of them good. Alot of them are just as racist against us as any KKK member would be-however, sometimes for good reason-we, as AA are not always as welcoming to them with all our “African booty scratcher” and “loincloths” jokes-but then it becomes a what came 1st-the chicken or the egg?-type situations. With all their education, 2/3rds of them still bleach their skin, and fall prey to the racist White man’s interpretation of what AA’s are supposed to be.

The article had a few things right, however. They definitely are more generous-but at what cost? Sure, they will wine and dine you, take you on expensive shopping sprees and vacations in the beginning-but just wait ’till you get into a real relationship with them and they start sending your X-mas shopping, utility bill and ENTIRE tax refund money “back home” to grown-ass family members who work and are usually more well-off than you are-just to save face!

I could go on FOREVER, with their cave-man mentality of the roles women should play both in and outside of the home(N.O.W. is SO needed in Africa its not even funny, lol). Last but not least, they cheat and lie just as much as AA men can. Mine lied to me FOR AN ENTIRE 8 YEARS about having a wife back home and told me only 6 months ago when she was already on a plane to the US. Funny thing is-UNLIKE AA men, he wasn’t trying to leave me for her-he wanted to “take me on as a 2nd wife”-and she was cool with it! Of course his motion was denied and I was left with the dirty work of explaining to our 6 yr old daughter that Daddy was married, but hey, I still have my health and my sanity.

Sadly, I have heard the stories, and there are too many women that have been in my situation. (my story is unique only because he didn’t use me for papers-he had his papers when we met). So although I’m sure there are African men who don’t act this way and are upstanding members of society, etc.-my next guy better come with the American flag stamped on his forehead! To all my sistas considering dating an African man-do you, but Buyer Beware…

first of all,,if we are going to match up an african man and a black american with african ancestry then their is more to the measurement,,first, most black americans have more then african ways flowing through their system,,white,native american and so on,,so to deny one part of you makes you a living lie,,,we are a different people with a culture that is still being developed,,hell we dont even have our own names yet,,,we are a universal people,,stop with the negro self hate measurements

This is garbage!! Talk about a writer who has no emotional stability or foundation? Did you get abused or mistreated by an African American male in your past? What emotional damage is embedded in your heart? You need deliverance to get it out. What about the African American sister? Most (not all) African American sister’s use their education or physical persuasion in an attempt to control or dominate over a man. And what spiritual values are we talking about with African men? Most of them (but not all African men) don’t have any “At the Cross” convictions in their heart, and no Biblical scriptural foundations. With most of the African American sister’s (again I stress the point..but not all of them), being a wife according to God’s word is out of the question. Because it’s not socially acceptable or attractive for African American women to submit to the Biblical principles (brothers…I didn’t say submit to YOU..so don’t get it twisted) God has placed on all of us. Most African American women want control and leadership over the African American man that God didn’t place on them. So they run to education and social prestige to get it instead of searching God’s word for His Wisdom and Truth. Don’t get me wrong, a sister with an good education is a good thing. But when it’s prioritized over allowing God’s Word to be alive in you heart as an African American woman and physically living as an example of Christ (and I don’t mean from a religious perspective), then what you dealing with is an African American women with selfish motives to be in control instead of being lead by God and His word. Men DO have to realize what their getting into and why. African American women are some of the most physically attractive beings on this planet!!! We’re often blinded by our sight instead of looking past the outer package and searching for the Spirit of God in an African American woman. God’s spirit in a person should be the biggest priority instead of the outer appearance and the material things a woman has. African American sister’s choose not to look for a true Godly character in a because it’s not attractive in our society (and it shouldn’t be anyways), looking for God in a man would mean that the African American female would have to look at things from a different perspective (fat chance in that happening). The African American woman would have to delve deep into God’s word to find that African American man who is in Spirit and in Truth, then would have to submit to God’s word (again I say this to you MEN…it’s NOT about women submitting to you) in order for His Blessings to become manifest in that relationship. Perhaps that’s why African men are held to a higher esteem in this article….no Biblical principles, no Spiritual foundation, or no Spiritual strength coming from an African man, no spiritual challenge for the African American female and no spiritual mandate on either one of them in an African man/African American woman relationship. As far as this article is concerned…written from an African American woman’s men-bashing perspective. That’s really unfortunate for you because it seems that somewhere in your life, someone’s done you a great injustice. If deliverance doesn’t come into your life, then you’ll probably die with this chip on your shoulder and a distorted view of your African American brothers. Allow God to touch your heart. My heart goes out to you.

Okay i must admit, because i dated and most of my peers are of African descent, African men ARE better educated, they Do treat you like a queen(although some have back down a bit because some women have taken the advantage of this fact), some DO cheat, and yes some do have large families.
Even the ones whom look like they aint got nothing, alway turns out to have some type of degree (Master) in Political Science, or something equivalent to it.
Anyone whom ever visited a African family home or attended their parties, you will always see the men get together to dicuss current political issues that are going on in the media and in Africa or business opputunities.
Most Africans look at AA as jokes because most of us present ourselves that way. Honestly, its sad to say this, but most other races including some African look down on us. The one whom are screwin up makes the ones who are doing the right thing, look bad. What so sad is that we were never like this several decades ago.
I know i will catch a lot of heat on this, but i just calling it as i see it.
bless

WE ALL ARE BROTHERS! EVEN THOUGH A AFRICAN MAN VIEWS US AS BEING WEAK MINDED! ITS PROBABLY TRUE BECAUSE ALOT OF US HAVE BEEN AMERICANIZED AND ARE SO CAUGHT UP WITH MATERIAL THINGS WE DONT SEE WHATS HAPPENING AROUND US

I agree with “Sweetbrooklyn” on the dating aspect. Maybe that is why i never carried on with some of the relationships with them because of the extra families they tend to have back home in Africa. Im too strong to deal with that mess. lol

@thachangeup-I have to disagree with you about the author man-bashing. I didn’t see that ANYwhere in this article. What I DID is see is her pointing out the differences. Go ‘head and front like most AA brothas aren’t tight with their money when 1st meeting a sista? LOL! With all that you typed, I would have to say that it seems you, my brother, have been scorned and jaded by the wrong AA females. I know plenty(myself included)of sistas that believe in the Biblical version of submission and though educated, don’t try to use that as an excuse to wear the pants in the family. If anything, I’ve found the opposite: brothas not wanting to be the Alpha males God created them to be because they feel a woman should hold her own-financially, emotionally, and spiritually. I am praying that I am wrong, but it’s starting to feel like chivalry just may need a funeral…

@Ascadex your right i notice the same thing with Whites. They take the African more seriously than the Black American. this is not only from my awareness but i personally heard this from whites mself. WTF!

@ashan are you implying that all african men marry whites?I was feeling your comment up until that.Please don’t come up in here spreading your disease.If you are white and I am assuming you are,because that is what you all do,come up in here spreading diseases (just like cancer,diabetes,AIDs and etc),than you need to exit.IF AFRICAN MEN MARRY WHITE,IT IS ONLY TOO USE THEIR AZ AND THAN DUMP THEM JUST LIKE THE TRASH THAT SOME OF YOU ARE.you all do your voodoo and put spells on them men just to enslave them.also, are you implying that blacks do not share the same priorities?who made you the judge of that?

Dawne1 very well stated.also anyone who puts africans down,please read Dawnye1 comment.enlighten yourself.check out OBAMA, PART OF HIM IS FROM AFRICA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!I doubt the fact that if he wasnt half african,he would make it in the white house.what does this say about black americans in america? “joke” half of them are behind bars…sad!

well, i must agree with “ThaChangeup”, cause it seems like everyone is always bashing the men. what about the african and african-american women? the women always seem to hide behind their physical attributes instead of what’s inside of them. as far as i can see african american women seem to judge black men more on their so-called “swagger” instead of what he knows! i feel like we(african americans) should have been left being called “black” or “negro”, or even “colored” because we don’t have any african cultural values at all! as far as i can see “real” african people seem to have more of a cultural identity than african-americans! African americans or should i say”black-americans” have been in this country damn near since the beginning, and still are trailing behind other races in everything except sports! even the mexicans come over here and get treated better!

@1NiceFella-OMG! Where are yall meeting these women?! You are absolutely right-I look for a man with “swagger”-and so do all the females I know. It’s important that you are confident, intelligent, and compassionate. Those things equal swagger to me. I know you were referring to more tangible things like cars and bucketloads of money, but like that country song said-that’s nice, but “that don’t impress me much”…lol…

@sweetbrooklyn79-I didn’t say “all” AA females. And I don’t use God’s word to manipulate actions in my home. But God IS and will always be top priority in my life. I’m just saying to look for Spirit of God in a person once you meet them. And that is something that you can’t see with the natural eyes. And by the way…all AA brothers ain’t cheep when we first meet an AA female….that did bring me to laughter though because I do know a few who are…lol.

shout out to Willie Lynch !!!!!!!!!!!

@thachangeup-well I didn’t say “all” AA brothas were cheap when first with an AA female-I said “most”…lol

Africans like any other foriegn race, come here to America to take advantage of its oppitunities!
remember black folks, years ago in the mid and late 1800s, black people had thriving communities consist of mostly doctors, lawyers, scientist, business owners, WELL educated teachers, and complete families consist of both parents. We build most of the black universities and schools in the south. We knew our self worth.
Now instead of our children looking up to doctors and lawyers as role models, r children are looking up to rappers and singer( to which most careers never last) and some sport figures; let me remind you that most sports persons have to have a backup in education just in case their dream in sport doesnt cut it.
We need to look at the problems that is distroying our community and society with a OPEN mind! Stop making excuses.

What is this, am I being punked? The picture speaks for it’s self
AN AFRICAN MAN DOES NOT A BLACK MAN MAKE. SEE HOW I OMITTED
AFRICAN AMERICAN…..AFRICAN MAN IS A AFRICAN AMERICAN…BUT
THAT DON’T MAKE HIM BLACK OMG!!!!!!!!

and to use the picture of kimora lee,,,she might be with an african now,,,but it was a black american brother that put her azz on blast for the world,,before that she was a half azz model with a cute face,,,

There are many black men who would like and prefer to marry a black woman .but find the lack of coarseness in themselves a barrier it is required that he be more hostile. Mostly blacks in the mid-west but through out the black community in my limited observations; the women remain locked into the community of origin and thus seem to gain an unusual attachment to the worst of the men who are familiar to them. So rather than take on a new person, approach or open opportunity with a guy outside of the old grouping; a person who is trying to step up her continuity is with a self fulfilling prophecy. All the new guys are not rich

Let’s look at him; he is usually recognized as a Vick, trick, soft, or queer because he may speak well, or read more or lack the desperations to; A.) Screw you (you know have sex right away) B. Get money by any means necessary (commit crime) C.) He has a Job* he had to have settled (does not make great money or have a great benefit package) D.) He is not frivolous (He enjoys staying home with you or won’t do the clothes or club thing).

Why would that man stay still to date the black women (collectively?), as she scurries past him through the door to run to the nefarious sagger who has the swagger yet it is in a criminal mindset and pays the way in but renege on all other obligations. Yes sister the man who pays his way into you, unless he thinks that he has full title (maybe but that is iffy), know this that he will replace you when you are bent damaged or unserviceable.

I never made enough money and neither did the late great MJ as shown by the hoarding of cash, we also all wish to have health care. The preference for gate money by sisters from brothers places them at a certain level of raport with him and those who are willing to “out bid” him too; they have a feeling about that woman too. It is not about the price it is because there is one; what ever the price it makes her lose any intrinsic emotional value. With a little of my life experience I could see that if you make or realize more cash than me and will not offer to do a nicety or especially a necessity then what kind of partner is she?

wow, I`m from Africa-Cameroon and and i kno we got varying responses on this cos there’s no kind of divine response to this. There are ups an downs on both sides. we got great admiration for AAs, we strongly believe they make America what it is today , look at Hollywood and the pop culture. I`v been all around Europe for a couple of years ,b4 coming over here listen to their radio stations is all western music from my AA bros and sis, they`re great people 4 real. America remains a dream land by by an large cos of efforts especially in the show buzz .
Bringing out the differences b/n an African and AAs got as diverse and digress reasons as the book resulting from the cultural, socio-political, environment, economic just to name a few. Look, we are one people only these aforementioned aspects makes us to do certain things the way we do at times beyond our knowledge and control.
The greatest is Determination, Sincerity, Focused, Ambitious towards our respective dreams & golds above all Love. we are one people brother for no two persons can ever be the same in every aspect not even ur blood bro/sis. saleh God Bless Africa

This is so true. They treat women better but they are better at cheating because every single one of their women, they will make feel like they are the only one.

I DON’T KNOW WHERE I STAND ON THIS. I WOULD HAVE TO DO RESERCH! ANY AFRICAN MEN OUT THERE, WHO WOULD LIKE TO DATE ME?

Thanks for everyone’s interesting comments. Wow! really deep stuff. I married an African from Congo. Been married over 3 years. Asked him to leave 3 times when he behaved inappropriately with women (i.e., phone numbers of women at work, texting a woman too much, too long, talking on the phone to a woman too much, too long) I didn’t wait until I saw him on top of somebody. I don’t play any games period because I wanted to share my life… . I wasn’t needy for someone to take care of me. Also, as a devout Christian Black American Woman, I didn’t look for swagger or money, I simply wanted to person I had been waiting nearly 40 years for, to spend the rest of my life with. . . my best friend. I am finding some things about the culture (or him) that don’t impress me much (i.e. characteristics all men have manifested, pride, stubborness, some condescending talk about my upbringing, and unkept promises). But are all those flaws limited to the African man? Don’t get me wrong. It’s wrong to stereotype. I love my Black men, but sometimes the truth hurts. In terms of the word ‘tradition’ I think we all mean strong cultural values. The AA is watered down because we are not African. The only cultural thing I see us hang onto is old wives fables, superstition, victimization and blame. We rehearse our pain and don’t seem to celebrate anything. We eat black eyed peas for New Years Day, and don’t have any solid family values. We blame the white man for everything and spend our lives looking in the rear view mirrow, not seeing that we are responsible for achieving our destinies or we are in grave danger of destruction because we’re not looking ahead. Oh yeah, we’re good for criticizing and condemning thing, but we’re too jealous to praise and be happy for others without being envious. What is tradition for us? It’s really about culture. And when you break it down about dating or marrying an African man, he’s still human, and he’s still a man. He just happened to be born in Africa. You will see him with traits of a man with our without values.

Umm I dated a few African men that totally bashed all these previously described attributes!lol EXCEPT the one about education. I was surprised n dis pleased at the same time. I was truly interested n datin a man from another culture but most of them hid theirselves think I was lookin for today’s definition of “swag.” What I did learn was dat most weren’t interested n really marryin an AA chick, they dig us for our sexual liberation. And as far as the money thing?!? Dudes told me str8 up they cheap!! lol Yeh their homes n cars were usually really nice n well kept, bottomline their dolla was theirs! I hope my experiences are only isolated evidence of an adaptation to regular nicca ways!

Look here it is a well known fact, African men like HAREMS. And ALL the women have to have something to sit down on. Look at King Solomon. An African with more money and more women than you can count. They treat them all good, but they have to have plenty.

I agree with mrothello61! It’s all about the money…. ain’t a damn thang funny! Isn’t that the
truth? I love my Black man….. whether he has money, status, or whatever else women want
from them. I don’t believe in “squashin” money like that. if it’s a man that I’m in love, love with..
I share! If I’m broke, he will share his with me…. I don’t believe in the “thug” life, but I do love
a Renaissance Man! A man of high esteem of himself, not jealous, not possessive, positive attitude, very self-confident, his own “swagger”… not anyone else’s definition of the word…
supportive.. no matter how big or small. I’ve always got negative vibes from African brothas.
I’ve dealt with a couple of “foreign” Black brothas, and I must say: I’ll stick with the “homegrown!”
Don’t get me to lyin.. I’ve had a couple of men, one to whom I was married, that dogged the relationship. I had my input in it as well… it does take two to tango! Nothin is ever one-sided! Stop playin and come correct, y’all!! Take accountability for your OWN actions….Even if you think
it’s embarrassing! We ARE NOT PERFECT! WE ARE HUMAN! I take accountability for whatever
I do… It’s the RIGHT thing to do! And I have a clear conscience! :)
I have a great KING! He is the best thing that’s happened to me! :) We talk about what we want, don’t want, and talk things out, then LET IT GO! We squash whatever is bothering us. We as Black
people tend to “carry”things over, no matter how old it is, what year it happened! We Need to
LET SHYTE GO! I know it’s hard, but not that difficult to do! I’m not preachin, and yes, I do what
I say in this comment! :) I’m 49, no stress lines, and a peaceful way of life! My man is nine
years younger than I, and we are on the same page! :)

Peace my sista gals and brothamen! :)

I was married to an African man and it was horrible. We had a son his first child and this man won’t do for his child It was no green card arrangment, it was a bonified marriage. He liked to cheat, beat, and they take the male ego to far. They believe african americans are stupid. My second marriage was to a African american and he does for this african mans child as if he is his own. I have lost respect for the african males. Yep, one bad apple spoiled the bunch for me.

When Africa was ravaged …………. and the people taken (who became AA’s) the ravaging continued this has resulted in a pained race as pained as the AA’s who claim to constantly feel the pain….Africans face the pain and poverty of being ravaged by their own……….just as there are good people all around the world there is a large propotion of sane , honest ,monogamous , peace loving and great men I am Nigerian and proud we may not meet the worlds expectation today but watch out for this part of the world…… we dey blow shei una dey hear am? we dey come . a fe mu eye bo lapo laipe yi e sha ma wo o!

You know I am like some of the other ladies, I will have to think about this more. Then I will give an answer more in detail to this matter. I do know I do not like to share my man with another lady no matter where is from.

@oluknower-Where are these “sane, honest, monogamous, peace loving…” Naija men you speak of? The all must still live back in Naija, sha? Because all of these Yoruba boys I’ve been around for the past 8 years of my life in the American diaspora have been the polar opposite.

@osollo

i just had to address some of your points . . . what makes you feel nigerians are better educated than african-americans? your couple of decades visit in this country? african-americans are among the most educated (if not the most educated) people of african descent in the world. maybe just the african-americans YOU KNOW are not educated? i’m willing to bet there are many nigerians who know nothing about african-americans’ struggle to build america or the civil rights movement. i’m also willing to bet there are plenty of uneducated nigerians (as a matter of fact, only 32% of males achieve higher education in nigeria, what’s up with ur other 68%)? just because YOU might be educated doesn’t mean a majority of NIGERIANS are. get over yourself. and try brushing up on your american english while you’re at it.

maybe the colonial masters in africa weren’t american . . . but the colonial masters in america were american . . . many of their descendants master america today.

africans are afraid of african-american violence? hmmmm . . . have you heard of dafur? how about rwanda? africans practice genocide against their own people (with the deaths of millions) and they’re afraid of african-americans? give me a break. even your native nigeria has military coups from time to time. is that why you left? or was it to take advantage of the country that african-americans built?

try to learn more about american (more specifically african-american) history and education.

@GEMINI-BREAK IT DOWN! LOL! Don’t get me wrong-I am not condoning tearing each other down. At the end of the day we all have the same skin color-just different upbringings/experiences. However, I have found myself arguing the same points you just mentioned with many a Nigerian. Most of them are brought up with a very ethnocentric point of view about their country-I guess you can’t knock them for patriotism…lol…

I am an african man…dont know about that traditional label, I am extremely well educated. I tend to take pride in my appearance dress in clothes that fit and speak with a slight british accent and generally speak better English than about 90% of the people i meet if not more.
However because i dress well, speak well and is generally knowledgeable about many things most African American women i have met have wondered if i am gay. I don’t get the same reaction from women in england or women in Ghana
So i wonder whether you don’t expect high standards from you men.
1.They speak with their tenses mixed up
2. The wear clothes that are a couple of sizes bigger
3.They see aspiration as a weakness
4.They father children with multiple women

No two African men are the same. I generally stay away from African -american women because i think the differences between us are too great and will tend to put pressure on the relationship.African men consider African american women crude,ignorant poorly educated and ill mannered and as such any relationship is usually considered a fling.

Now that Black Planet,has put this up.They’ve got to be fair and ask the same for African American,men.As to if they think it would be better dating a native African woman?We all know our race is becoming “EXTINCT”…either from us(Black on Black CRIME)or(Findind love/Other Races)I think Black love is a beautiful thing between a Black man and a Black woman!…We’ve obviously got issue’s with both of us Black man/woman here in America.In order to have such a question asked in the first place.

This lady who wrote da article is on crack…4 real! she said it is awesome for women to date married men as long as they know their role…WTF! obviously she is NOT an american. Why BP is allowing her or him to partner up and write articles on here is simply shocking! Afro-American males are not matched by any other males on this planet, as far I am concerned! This article is garbage.

It doesn’t mater what culture your from, Education is key and we all need to get it.

It doesn’t matter what culture your from, Love plays an important role and we all
need to learn the meaning of it, learn how to show it before we try to find it.

It doesn’t mater what culture your from if the man or woman doesn’t love you they
are going to leave and if they don’t leave right away then be prepared for drama.

It doesn’t matter what culture your from Cheating, Lying, Gold Digging Women and
Gold Digging Men will always be there until we learn how to truely love each other
instead of using and playing each other for fools.

It doesn’t matter what culture your from, what matters is who you are as a person,
how you choose to live your life and how you choose to treat the people around you that
you claim to love.

Unfortunately there’s a lot of people out there crying for love, complaining how
their previous Ex’s didn’t treat them right and when they do get REAL LOVE, they
don’t know what to do with it. They’re so use to CRAP that when they get REAL LOVE
they try to turn love into hate and that’s a sad reality in every single culture
NOT JUST BLACK.

The only reason why Black Culture sticks out like a sore thumb in anything is because we as blacks have too much drama, too much hate, too much of too much and not enough of LOVE for each other. Just like this blog trying to compare Black American Men to Black African Men. Why, so you can criticize each other instead of offering constructive criticism that can help your brother. What next black women against all other race of women out there. LOL should be a hot topic with the sisters.

They DO HAVE MORE DEGREES. How do I knoW? BECAUSE AFRICANS hold the HIGHEST DEGREES in the UNITED STATES AMONG ALL RACES!

BET YOU ALL DIDNT KNOW THAT!

ITS TRUE….. MORE AFRICANS THAN CHINESE, WHITE OR WHATEVER ARE MORE EDUCATED HERE THAN ANYWHERE ELSE!

THAT SHEDS MORE LIGHT ON JUST HOW RACIST THIS COUNTRY TRULY IS!

They DO HAVE MORE DEGREES. How do I knoW? BECAUSE I DID A RESEARCH PAPER ON IT! AFRICANS hold the HIGHEST DEGREES in the UNITED STATES AMONG ALL RACES!
BET YOU ALL DIDNT KNOW THAT!
ITS TRUE….. MORE AFRICANS THAN CHINESE, WHITE OR WHATEVER ARE MORE EDUCATED HERE THAN ANYWHERE ELSE!
THAT SHEDS MORE LIGHT ON JUST HOW RACIST THIS COUNTRY TRULY IS!

the concept of love as we know here in America does not exist in all cultures

Von-Anise McCoy…you actually took time to write this garbage “Do African Males have African-Americans beat”? Lot of serious issues facing African-American (black) community. Instead, you chose to write about this ignorant sh@t!

Even this topic is a regression from other uninteresting fodder often discussed on BP News such as “Rihanna’s new love interest ” or “Mariah is pregnant” and/or “No love for RJ.”

Sure, I understand most articles, columns written on BP is for entertainment purposes – but what purpose does your story serve?

@pimptress..i wonder whether you have traveled outside of america or even outside of your state.the concept of love: do you think that relationships between African -american gives off a love vibe..really wow..how come over 70% of your household have single parents…most African-american girls will give birth outside of wedlock b4 they are 20.over half of all African american males have been to jail at one time or another…if that is you concept of love you can have it.
What is missing my dear is “”a concept of love”. and you seem to have no notion what love is!

I am an African, from West Africa, Liberia. I think most African Americans here should try and travel more to Africa to learn a little about African instead of just relying on the television. We are more familiar with whites in Africa than AAs, I mean regular AAs not celebrities. Because we live here, we come to understand African Americans more. Eventhough Africans had a level of understanding of AAs culture, they come to learn more about it when they come here. They realize that all the admirations and respect they had for AAs while they (Africans) were in Africa, is not reciprocated. Most African Americans, both males and females tend to look down on Africans and take them to be ignorant, that they don’t know the rest of the world. You see, whether they are joking or are serious, it is a REALLY DUMB question to ask someone if they have television, modern houses, cars etc in Africa. It is the equivalent of asking an African American if he knows any other job other than slavery. No AFRICAN will ever tell you that a white person will ask such a question. Even if he wants to ask that question he will pause and instead ask: what is it like in Africa? Africans are more than happy to tell another of what life is in Africa. Since most African Americans try to paint the Africans as ignorant, the African thus, take that as a challenge, that is why they pursue higher edu. and date white girls etc because no education is a powerful weapon. People can say what they one to say about you but the living fact will prove them wrong. African tried to get their Edu. quick and fast and from wherever they can get it. I got my degree within a few years of entering this country and within a few years, I started a company. Overall, I believe there is good qualities in everyone and I personally know lots of intelligent AA men and women.

wow i would let everyone else’s comments speak 4 me but i am having something 2 say, the way we African Americans live in this country is like no where else in the world.war is on for black males its been on since Americas conception,did ya ever ask why does a black man need to be questioned so much about his LIFE, well this country is 400 hundred years into seeing the black man with out one they discredit the ones that do have. no wonder why a lot our of African American sisters stay confused about there men Don’t know what to believe in. and then we got Soul less folks who will say anything with out even looking at the heart wrenching truth that we have been destroyed in this country by the wickedest people on the planet American people, Its dead to Me seeing our people in jail dead or drugged out tired of asking why. Would you think that in our anger in this American way of life that we black males have had to fight and still fight to gain the respect of our wives and family and values it very hard to hear you talk about them and there country ways. where are our country ways and wheres’ your understanding of the social dived THERE is a problem but to you it just something to blog about. ,Africans males know to keep they way we live by the wayside its not for them these are proud people they can still call home HOME, Africa We Don’t. ms McCoy i think you may just be learning about African cultures and ways of living but learn more and then learn some more thats my advice your not totally wrong but its not right either. them African brothers at least know one thing we know American gold diggers are the worst the world over NUFF SAID

copy you @pimpsumtin. An addition: Whoever a “man” choose to fall in love with should not make another to look down on herself. If an African man choose to pursue a white woman, that does not automatically mean AA women are zero. The same for men. The very fact that one brings that topic up is a lowering of self-esteem. Just be you. Enjoy yourself. White girls don’t feel threatened. In fact, they will either try to get a piece of the pie. Or they tend to just stay with those who love and cherish them. Instead of most AA girls trying to concentrate on something better, (Themselves), they are busy fighting two battles. 1. African men don’t like me 2. White women and African women are taking our AA men. Listen: I’m just kidding around, I love AA girls.

I’m from Africa. I love African American gurls. I love the way they wear their hair. I also love the fact that they don’t take themselves too seriously, so you can expect a lot fun when you are around them. They have some really nice body features you will not find anywhere else. Not even in Africa. Eventhough their looks originated from Africa, it shows what it is like at its finest. In other words, eventhough there are pretty girls in Africa, AA girls are the finest of finest of girl of African descent. They are also smart too. See the thing about AA girls, they are like all Africans, they never had much to begin with they always start from zero unlike the white girl, so what is most admirable of AA girls from my standpoint is that when they put their mind to anything, they aways accomplish it. I mean work, cooking, education, sport etc.. So I think the main reason most African men shy away from some AA girls is because of their attitude. Believe me I have being trying to find the reason myself for a long time. I think African men need to look still more. There ARE AA girls out there with a good attitude.

GOD BLESS AFRICA’ africa my africa ,africa of proud warriors in the ancestral savannahs,africa of whom my grand parents speaks at the banks of the distant rivers i have never known u but my blood flows in your vains my beautiful black blood that irrigates the fields……..i think is time for reflection…..in my next life i want to come as an african,the african values is priceless,move ur booty visit AFRICA , you are all welcome brothers and sister from all over the world’

HELL’ is this not ridiculous ? we have two races ( the black race )(the white race ) which one do u belong to ? for heaven’s sake stop fooling yourselves ,wherever u come from makes no sense in this discussion but you as an individual and what you have to offer to make the world a better place instead of talking s**t………I AM A NIGERIAN and i don’t give a damn about this poor discussions HELL this will only make u poorer and fragile, I NEED A STIMULATING AND CREATIVE DISCUSSION’ HELLO ALL’……

Haaaaaaaaaaaa

I’m so sorry for laughing….BUT!!!!

I must point out a couple of things in your post.

Last sentence, third paragraph: “…..we are starting to value the educationed men more.”

EDUCATIONED is not a word. I believe EDUCATED is what you meant.

But this next one is even funnier……fifth paragraph, first sentence: “…..is an African proverb which illiterates that his sense of community may vary from yours.”

Now… ILLITERATE IS a word but read the definitions.

il⋅lit⋅er⋅ate  /ɪˈlɪtərɪt/
–adjective
1. unable to read and write: an illiterate group.
2. having or demonstrating very little or no education.
3. showing lack of culture, esp. in language and literature.
4. displaying a marked lack of knowledge in a particular field: He is musically illiterate.

–noun
5. an illiterate person.

I believe the word you wanted to use was ILLUSTRATES

il⋅lus⋅trate  /ˈɪləˌstreɪt, ɪˈlʌstreɪt/
–verb (used with object)
1. to furnish (a book, magazine, etc.) with drawings, pictures, or other artwork intended for explanation, elucidation, or adornment.
2. to make clear or intelligible, as by examples or analogies; exemplify.
3. Archaic. to enlighten.

I hope I don’t come off as mean spirited but at least, now you know.

In the future you really should have some one proofread your work. OR just go to dictionary.com

peese (X^D

My is husband is African, from Gabon. I don’t really compare him to African-American men or think one is preferred over the other, he just happened to be who I fell in love with.

I will say that a huge issue with us in the beginning was not sterotyping each other.

Ashanti, I wouldn’t pretend that there aren’t teenaged unwed mothers and abundant promiscuity in Africa (like everywhere else on this mudball call Earth). Also, I have been abroad and I see that so-call “African American” culture (although it seems to be the whites that have no true appreciation for it are the ones reaping the financial rewards) has been a huge influence WORLDWIDE. So I’m sure that in your native country I would probably see some guys walking around with abundant jewelry, molosser type dogs (I mean Presa Canarios are from Africa, no?) and having an “attitude”. I blame this on the MEDIA. The very same media that has fooled the entire planet into thinking that Americans cack fifty cent pieces and wipe their arses with $100 bills (if you didn’t understand that last line then your English isn’t that proper, mate!). And F.Y.I. I am educated, some would say very cultured (I hate to boast) and I’ve caught flack for my annunciation of words, but I’m too focused on what I’m trying to accomplish to let anyone bug me. Yes, I’ll admit that I like to rock my trousers a bit on the baggy side. But, I guarantee you that I’m far more intelligent than those that would pass me off as some “thug” (speaking of that the only TRUE thugs are East Indian or South Asian, but that’s another discussion). Before I close this out, I strongly suggest that you get out more and try to talk to different people. Your comments are the equivalent of me saying that all African women don’t like Black American men because we aren’t rich enough for them. You see the point? And in all honesty I will admit my ignorance on one thing….I thought Ashanti was a womans moniker. In fact that is one of my exes middle name. Perhaps that may be part of the reason why people think that you might be homosexual. Just a thought. Oh and one more thing, when “I” is used as a pronoun it IS ALWAYS CAPITALIZED. So are proper adjective like “British” and “English”. And it’s not “is generally knowledgable” it’s “am generally knowledgable”. It’s “your” not “you” (or was that a typographical error?). I hypothesize that you didn’t major in “English” at your alma mater…..
ONE!

And Kimora Simmons is a golddigging slag! Without Russell’s caking arse she’d be a second rate (retired by now) Wal-Mart flyer clotheshorse! Bad example!

MmmmmmmmmmMmmmmmmm Good!!!!

I love me an African man (Nigerian mainly) They have that manly, come here girl, work HARD to make it happen attitude. My weakness for sure…(Caribbean is a very close second)
My advice ladies, because they can be somewhat over bearing, or traditional, is to state your intentions from the gate. Because if you aren’t the type of woman to have or is used to her man taking charge or actually handling business than you may be in for a shock.
I’ll date and do date American men but, they just don’t compare to a man w/ his roots close to Africa.
African men are (well the ones I’ve dated) are WELL educated, hard a.s.s workers, athleticly fit, well traveled, socially outgoing, uhmmm how do you say NOT cheap, and when it come to the bedroom…! Damn…yeah 2 thumbs WAAAAAAAAYYYYY UP! Good right H.B~

@casteleon,
be kind to others and chose to differ in order to agree and have productive discussions. For your information Ashanti is not necessarily a woman’s moniker. try google that out, it is a tribe and the word is derived from swahili which means “reward/thanks”. we’re not here to correct each others grammar but rather share our opinions like adults not some “big boys” at their puberty phase.

I disagree and agree with the author of this article to an extent. there’re a few things that might have been taken from the “Schuhbladen Prinzip” (stereotyping) but some are facts: here’s my thought….

If you ever had the opportunity to be around both african and african american man, then you would realize that there’s really no such thing as a traditional african anymore than there’s a traditional african american. The world has grown together and human beings do have the ability to adjust to their environment. I think the more apt description will be a “grown up man” or a peter pan “big boy”. This is true be it a white, black, yellow, red or blue man.

A normal human being with a sound mind would expect quite some cultural difference between the two sets of people. However the article (http://hellobeautiful.com/your-man/dating-a-traditional-african-man-vs-an-african-american/comment-page-2/#comments) does not research the subject matter or even pretend to do so. It simply portrays ridiculous stereotypical notions attributed to both sets of people. Whoever was blogging here must really go back to the drawing boards and do it again.

In America, we take monogamy very seriously. Any man born here knows that cheating is a no-no. When African American men do cheat they work hard to hide it because they know that we may end the relationship for this reason. In African countries when men cheat they are not as good at hiding the evidence. The women in Africa believe that all men cheat, so they will not leave their husband because he had an extra marital affair.

my opinion:
You got it wrong this time round. Most polygamy marriages are not and will never be recognized under statutory laws. They are accommodated in specific cases but under african traditional customary laws. Most elderly african women help their husbands look for the second wives. Men in africa can turn into supermen when it comes to hiding their extra marital affairs just like the men in the west turn into batman and superman when hiding their pornography.

A relationship between a man and a woman is normally built on almost the same foundation and an African man may date or marry an african american lady and if the basis of the relationship is solid it will last. Polygamy is not prohibited by statutory laws in all african countries but accommodated by traditional african laws or sheria to some extent. Nobody can legally marry two women and be issued with marriage papers in any african country and something the author forgot is that a polygamous instinct is no more natural in african men than it is in all men of other cultures. If an african man cheats on you and makes no attempt to hide he probably doesn’t care much for you.

…..African men do not have the “gold-digger” issue. They will generally be more generous up front because in many African countries the man is the bread winner so they are socialized to believe that it is their job to take care of the family. African American men are so scared of “gold-diggers” only there to get cash so they will be less generous in the beginning. We have to earn their affections and in many cases prove that we are not there for just the money only…..{hallobeautiful.com}
my opinion:
This assumption is true to an extent (80%). otherwise its always there to fill the mans ego. Men talk big outside but its normally the women who make the decisions behind closed doors.

I am universal a man with deep african roots living in a modern world where we’re all striving for love, happiness, great health and trying as much as everybody else to harmonize with my environment. I strongly believe that the reason a relationship between two individuals (whether having the same racial background or not) will always blossom if they have common grounds, the relationship is built on trust, love amongst other things that the particular person ‘ll be looking for in a relationship. If we set our priorities right, know what we want in life and with whom we would like to share them with, there’re greater chances that a foundation for a relationship is there.

Most of us africans tend to be more family oriented and invest much in formal education because we strongly believe that it’s out ticket from poverty, self empowerment and avoid oppression. We also tend to come from families where both parents are present so we yearn to replicate the very same family values of our parents. This is something that most african american men hardly have the opportunity to enjoy or grow up in and for this reason might have difficulties binding themselves from the word go. They rather be cautious as the blogger mentioned but i guess in every man there’s that fling to be in love with someone and share their world with them.

Education is king in Africa.The men realize that having a degree beyond a bachelor’s degree is the great equalizer that can free them from the chains of poverty. Many Africans come to America to get an education so they may have several master’s degrees or a PHD. When entering into a relationship African American women may think that African men lack ”an edge.” In our community, Swagger is king; we chase the men with the most bravado/street credibility. Sexy and dangerous can only go but so far, we are starting to value the educationed men more.  
my opinion:
At least you got some things right!!
The most important aspect that many authors or the so called african experts tend to forget is that most africans usually have lived in both cultures (the western and the african) so we are in a better position to make informed decisions. We are drilled in school to know so much about the world and not only the capitals of different nations but the believes, cultural backgrounds, immigration roots, etc. This means that our school syllabus is congested with knowing about the world and our parents have more than enough time to controlled our performance in school. Our discipline is insured and drilled by both the community, the parents, relatives, learning institutions amongst others. This is something that most african american men have long not had the opportunity to enjoy so i wouldn’t start solely blaming them for acting the way they do but rather the environment under which they were forced to grow up in. An african man is at no time under any pressure to prove his masculinity or street wisdom as many african american men would call it. All that has no real value in our communities and ways of life. It’d take months or years to hear of two neighbors going at each other over minor things. The clashes are there and should have been mentioned but they are normally caused by systems that our greedy politicians drill unto us. This forces many to fight back. An african american man might be forced to do this on the streets to survive as they call it.

If you get really serious, A.K.A marriage, there is no such thing as extended family.“It takes a village to raise a child” is an African proverb which illiterates that his sense of community may vary from yours. In most caes they are expected to send money back home or take care of an elderly parent. You will have to be on the same page when it comes to this because apart of his income will be leaving your household regularly. They are also taught not to question their elders’ judgment, so getting along with his family is crucial. As African Americans we are taught to respect our elders but once we are all grown up we assert our opinions more.

my opinion:
You got it right on this one.

A role model in africa would mostly be our parents, close family members. Individuals such as Nelson Mandela, or other freedom fighters would be accorded lots of kudos for their sacrifice but our role models are never chosen from stars. So they are never at any point “STARS” but rather people whose real lives u know and whose backgrounds are well known to you almost like the back of your hands. It is until a few years ago that i learned that my future boss really moved me. His attitude towards life and fellow human beings really made me have a role model outside my family. African american grow up in different environment and social backgrounds and it is for this reason that i believe the comparison would never make sense.

The choice of a certain women to prefer an african man to an african american is subjected to her preferences, experiences, mutual understanding between her and whomever she wish to date amongst others. It should not be generalized since i know men (white, black, etc) who would cheat by blink of an eye and some who would never even go there.

African men marry whites, asians, fellow africans, african americans and it usually works out just fine and guess why?…. because most of the time they have the same priorities and sit down and talk whenever there are differences in the relationship or whatsoever. Communication can work wonders and talking but not should and pointing fingers in public will always be the best way to converse.

…to be continued…

Damn……spent nearly A whole hour just reading all the comments just to know what all this girls see me as… Then came back to the heading of the article n its like this…a Dating:a TRADITIONAL African Man vs. An African American..come to think of it i’m not a TRADITIONAL African man…Why do y’all go for this Traditional Polygamous Assholes and whats the difference btwn them and the African American that is 29 yrs from Texas or somewhere that has 11 kids wit i don kno 21 different women n i kno he’s not the only one. Something else African or African American we are all still black so why are we going in on each other?? Myself im trying to dig in on African american culture n i think u should to try n dig in on African culture….Last thing I don care if your American or African as long as your black s**t im kool with that and i havent had any problem(s) in any of my relationships but one thing is clear lol all Black women are the same..(yea whatever comes in your mind).I tried dating a white girl once n i was nearly killed by two fat white lesbian b***hes for God knows what i did.A word of advice keep away from them TRADITIONAL African men coz most of them are Polygamous…BTW i’m from KENYA.OBAMA LOL

Hell ya! I’d be with Seal if he was living in a cardboard box. Hes about the sexiest man I ever seen.

Wow…I knew this come by soon!….am african, to the bone marrow, proudof my values, yet adaptive to culture and new ways!…Africanc you see here in US are modern, in thinking and otherwise, yes well educated and know what to do when dating. Well, am yet to date here in US, but will keep this discussion updated!

well well here we go again.see i tell it like i see it and for those who don’t like it..CLOSE YO EYES and keep it move’n.some of my very good friends are from Africa,specifically Kenya and Nigeria.their everywhere throughout the world.

I see it like this.sistas like them swagger types AND YES SOME OF THEM DIRECTLY FROM AFRICA DO HAVE THEM TOOOO.Believe me,I like them swagger types but definately not marriage material LOL but I am agreeing with the so called gay african man that everyone is picking on in here.He is speaking truth.see brothas are so quick to gang on someone when a person has spoken the truth.instead of get’n yo lazy ars up and get a job,some of you AA brothas will sit up in here and play defense.Yes Africa has culture & values both family and education which is the problem with US IN AMERICA.maybe if some of us HAD MORE CULTURE you would be more respectful of yourself.brothas actually are very comical,if yo ars hasnt been behind bars youll will EVENTUALLY find your way in there by all means.NOW ISN’T THAT SAD???youll got that itch syndrome.the itch of being enslaved by white men.BCAUS THATS WHAT IT IS.WHITE MEN GOT SOME OF YOU’LL RIGHT WHERE THEY WANT YOU>>IN JAIL!!!especially some of the brothas down south.They either gay or on some shhh.you need to seriously grow the hell up!!

>>>IT IS SAD THAT A BOY WHO IS DIRECTLY FROM AFRICA ATTEND THE SAME CLASS YO ars THOUGHT WAS SOoo DIFFICULT IN AMERICA.PASSED EVERY CLASS WITH A HIGH GPA AND BECOME A MEDICAL DR.THAT SH*T IS CRAZY.LOL how in the world you’ll going to let someone that wasnt even raised in this country know more sh*t about your mofo country?SHHH THIS IS YOUR MOFO COUNTRY LOL. I mean I am not all about knocking AA brothas down but it is time to do something with yourselves. MOST OF YOU’LL BROTHAS UP IN BP are either pursuing becoming a DJ,rapper,b-ball player or some sh*t like that which is also very comical.NO PLAN B????I dont watch much tv, but there was a AA brotha up in divorce court talking about he pursuing becoming a rapper and he has some cd’s out LOL this brotha was like 37 yrs old.GROW UP NEGRO!!!You’ll brothas up on BP need to grow the hell up,not having a father in your life needs to be a reminder to be present in your own child’s lives because way too many dead beat AA fathers in America.

I am sorry but I am a black women who would never ever date a AA brotha simply because they always have some type of baggage.now dont get me wrong,there are some men with the entire package-intellectual,handsome,spiritual,romantic & successful AA men in America.(NO MEN HAS THE FULL PACKAGE!IT DOES NOT EXIST!)but they have an ego problem and etc. dont want to get into it.I am happy with the black man I am with today so youll brothas dont come @ me with “what type of brothas do you sorround yourself with statement & blah blah blah.”dont want to hear it!

My college was predominantly white & foreign females(more women).when it came to graduation,half the AA men I knew dropped out long time ago.lets keep in mind,there was a small % to begin with.The black and hispanic foreigners were the ones I saw a lot of who did grad.That is so so sad.The Hatians,Nigerican,Jamaicans,other Islanders,Dominicans, and etc.

again I just feel like foreigners as a whole prioritize much more than AA PERIOD!dont care who doesnt agree,let me have it if you dont agree & I’ll throw it right back @ ya.Keep’n it gangsta and some what “real” is all these AA men think about and it is indirectly killing and hurting the 30 billion children they have throughout the nation by 30 billion women.you’ll allow that little diggly thing to DICTATE YOUR LIFE AND THAT IS WHY SO MANY DO NOT SUCCEED still blaming it on slavery.Negro BLACK FOREIGNERS COME UP IN THIS COUNTRY AND MAKE IT!!!I DONT EVER HEAR THEM BRING UP THE BLAME GAME…LETS KEEP IT MOVE’N.

Foreigner get their freak on too but they do it smart.they still create long and short-term goals and plan while partying hard.divorce is crazy in AMERICA…lets not even go there but there is something seriously wrong with blacks as a whole in this country.we are not united @ all like HISPANICS OR INDIANS ARE.you’ll too busy killing eachother and engaging in behaviors that will ultimately get YOU NO WHERE.LIKE BEING A HOMOSEXUAL FOR EXAMPLE.its like AA MEN CAREs SOO MUCH ABOUT THEIR APPARENCE FIRST BEFORE REACHING THE WORD “GOALS.” FOREIGNERS VALUE GOOD THINGS THAT SO MANY OF THEM DID NOT HAVE WHILE THEY WERE YOUNG.SO THEY DO NOT OFTEN TAKE THINGS FOR GRANTED.THEY WOULD RATHER LOOK BAD AND PURSUE THEIR DREAMS the right way (through hard work and sweat)THAN TO LOOK GOOD AND FAIL.

It isnt what you are currently doing that matters,it is the outcome and things eventually materializing that counts.

You’ll so quick to call a well articulated man with a long list of degrees, “gay” if anything there are far more gays merely within the AA community than Africa.if anything AA men who may possibly be lazy b*tches are the most gay of all simply because a lot of them are lazy.too busy worrying about get’n laid 24/7.TOo busy thinking THE WORLD OWES THEM SH*T.I AM SORRY BUT BLACK WOMEN ARE DO’N IT HERE IN AMERICA!!!We are w0000rk’n it!!some of them single mama’s are making it even with the 2 or 4 children the dead beat dad left them with.Dont let your 3rd leg dictate your life because in the end, your kids will be the one to suffer when you cant pay up the child support. HOW JUUU DO’N?????

As far as this topic goes saying something pertaining to polygamy LOL.lets keep it move’n!!!!!men of every ethnicity does it…it just has other names…infidelity A.K.A cheating or open relationships.One thing that many men do that are directly from Africa…they may have an ego problem as well just like AA successful men.The only thing is that African men love to dominate the house with the mentality that what they say goes…uhh… that sh*t doesnt work well with me
;-) Kudos to Barak Obama<an educated black man who sets very good examples,yet AA men make excuses…dont youll see something wrong with that?smh

@ SWEET BROOKLYN79 u must be searching for wrong values the sane person i am i know that like attracts like only the greedy get verily easily defrauded, and tyhe ladies who search for wrong values find wrong men every where in the wrld that is maybe like talkin to the person in the mirror search out yourself how come u are around the wrong yoruba guyz i am yoruba ,and have tons of great yoruba friends u still aint doin something right Lady….

The examples this article speaks of are extraordinary African men, and I surely wouldln’t call them traditional African men…quite the contrary! As for the African men I have dated or been in business with I found a huge gap in Morale terpitude, they are not better than our men, they are just different, they have flaws that we are not accustomed to, the huge percentage of fraud being perputrated on women on the internet is African men…men who have no problem asking for money to come to America or whatever even before a relationship is established. Bribing or kissing up seems to be the order of the day. Lying seems to be subjective, if they leave out the fact that they are here for a better life…but at home they have children and a wife. Some of us have married them, and bore children for them only to be discarded once they have achieved the level of success they seek…NOPE, the people you used as examples are extraordinary men who have assimilated as much as anyone in Show business! I think its misleading, because you told one side of the story , perhaps it’s damage control…But, right here on Black Planet we are not safe from the predatory behaviors that come with many of the “average” African man. All of them do not have advanced degree’s as you imply…I just don’t think that you give a fair assessment, there are rapist, killers, cheaters, liars in all races, to imply that we jump on this African “leading man band wagon” is absurd! Women and men have enough issues without you or anyone bashing our men in favor of African men…Let me say I married a man from Trinidad was married for almost 20 years…Big cultural differences! But even he became so westernized he was utterly corrupted by western values. Maybe somethings about them are endearing, but to me they are suspect…the average woman doesn’t need a Djimon Hutsu or Idris Elba, the women they are dating have enough money to support them , their family and the village, the average woman does not! Lots of generalizations were in this so called article! I am writing about the fraud, deception and unabashed duplicity that is being perputrated…My question if all these African men are so moral who are these crooks online and off, robbing us of hard earned money…”ALL ROADS LEAD TO AFRICA”…just like all of us come from Africa, the problem with Africa…IS AFRICANS…

The examples this article speaks of are extraordinary African men, and I surely wouldln’t call them traditional African men…quite the contrary! As for the African men I have dated or been in business with I found a huge gap in Morale terpitude, they are not better than our men, they are just different, they have flaws that we are not accustomed to, the huge percentage of fraud being perputrated on women on the internet is African men…men who have no problem asking for money to come to America or whatever even before a relationship is established. Bribing or kissing up seems to be the order of the day. Lying seems to be subjective, if they leave out the fact that they are here for a better life…but at home they have children and a wife. Some of us have married them, and bore children for them only to be discarded once they have achieved the level of success they seek…NOPE, the people you used as examples are extraordinary men who have assimilated as much as anyone in Show business! I think its misleading, because you told one side of the story , perhaps it’s damage control…But, right here on Black Planet we are not safe from the predatory behaviors that come with many of the “average” African man. All of them do not have advanced degree’s as you imply…I just don’t think that you give a fair assessment, there are rapist, killers, cheaters, liars in all races, to imply that we jump on this African “leading man band wagon” is absurd! Women and men have enough issues without you or anyone bashing our men in favor of African men…Let me say I married a man from Trinidad was married for almost 20 years…Big cultural differences! But even he became so westernized he was utterly corrupted by western values. Maybe somethings about them are endearing, but to me they are suspect…the average woman doesn’t need a Djimon Hutsu or Idris Elba, the women they are dating have enough money to support them , their family and the village, the average woman does not! Lots of generalizations were in this so called article! I am writing about the fraud, deception and unabashed duplicity that is being perputrated…My question if all these African men are so moral who are these crooks online and off, robbing us of hard earned money…”ALL ROADS LEAD TO AFRICA”…just like all of us come from Africa, the problem with Africa…IS AFRICANS…

To say the least, the examples of traditional African men given are more Renaissance. These examples have been exposed to other cultural lifestyles. That is what helped them to blend in well. A traditional African would be dumbfounded. I know because my father is one of those who after all this time in America refuses to shed his Nigerian ways. I can’t be mad at him for refusing to forget where he came from but I did cause a lot of confusion for me growing constantly having to switch living standards depending on whether I was at his house or at my mother’s.

N.S. Ugezene

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STOP SEGREGATION AMONG BLACK PEOPLE.
I THINK IT IS VERY WRONG TO ADDRESS SOMEONE AS A TRADITIONAL AFRICAN MAN AND AN AMERICAN BLACK MAN BECAUSE BLACK IS BLACK. TRADITON IS SOMETHING THAT DOES NOT CHANGE EVEN WITH THE ADVENT OF TIME AND I DO NOT WANT TO BELIEVE THAT IS HOW YOU LOOK AT US AFRICAN BORN BLACK PEOPLE. IT WILL BE RIGHT TO SAY A BORN AFRICAN BLACK MAN AND A BORN AMERICAN BLACK MAN.
LET ME START THIS TOPIC BACK IN THE SEVENTEEN CENTURY WITH SLAVERY. SLAVERY TO MY OWN BIBLICAL POINT OF VIEW IS A GOD DIVINE DESIGN FOR RACIAL MIX UP IN HUMANITY. WHEN WE LOOK AT JOSEPH’S LIFE IN THE BIBLE WE SEE HIM BEING SOLD BY HIS BROTHERS TO SLAVERY. HE GOES TO EGYPT, HE IS FALSEFULLY ACCUSED BY HIS MASTER’S WIFE FOR ATTEMPTING TO RAPE HER AND SENT TO PRISON. HE SUFFERS AND GOD BLESSES HIM WITH THE WISDOM TO INTERPRET DREAMS AND HE INTERPRETS THE KING’S DREAM, THE KING IS PLEASED AND APPOINTS HIM GOVERNOR. HIS BROTHERS WHO SOLD HIM COME TO BUY GRAIN IN EGYPT, HE RECOGNIZES THEM AND WELCOMES THEM WHILE FORGIVING THEM.HE ACKNOWLEDGES THE FACT IT WAS GOD’S PLAN. THE WHOLE FAMILY MOVES TO EGYPT. WHEN HE DIES, THE KING TOO DIES AND A NEW KING COMES INTO POWER AND TURNS ALL OF THEM INTO SLAVES. GOD IS WATCHING AT THEM AND HAS POWER TO DO ANYTHING BUT HE DOES NOT DO ANYTHING. THEN ONE DAY HE DECIDES TO SOFTEN THE HEARTS OF THE EGYPTIANS AND THEY GIVE THEIR GOLD TO THE ISRAELITES IN SHORT MASTER PAYS HIS SLAVE UNWILLINGLY. HE OPENS THE WAY FOR THE ISRAELITES TO BE FREE. TODAY IF JOSEPH HAD BEEN SOLD TO SLAVERY IN EGYPT, THE ISRAELITES WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN IN HISTORY AS THOSE WHO BUILT AN ANCIENT CIVILIZATION OF EGYPT.
LET ME ALSO RELATE THIS STORY TO MY BROTHERS WHO WERE TAKEN TO SLAVERY THAT THIS WAS ALSO GOD’S PLAN TOO. IF YOU WERE NOT TAKEN TO SLAVERY TELL ME WHAT WOULD EVER HAVE TAKEN THIS MASS OF BLACK PEOPLE TO THE AMERICA? AMERICA IS NO MAN’S LAND AND SHE REPRESENTS THE WORLD CULTURE SINCE WE HAVE ALL THE TRIBES IN THE WORLD IN AMERICA. THERE WAS ATIME WHEN YOU WERE A SLAVE AND GOD TOO SOFTENED YOUR MASTERS’ MIND AS GOD DID TO THE EGYPTIANS AND THE ISRAELIES WERE FREED. IF SLAVERY WERE NOT HIS PLAN TO MIX UP RACES, HE WOULD HAVE STOPPED IT THEN THE BLACK MAN WOULD NEVER HAD BEEN ANYTHING IN THE WHITE SOCIETY.WE ALL HAVE IT DEEP IN OUR MINDS THE SUFFERING YOU WENT THROUGH BUT YOUR BATTLE AGAINST RACISM HAS BROUGHT OUR RACE TO THE NEXT PLAT FORM OF LIFE ON THIS PLANET BECAUSE YOU HAVE PROVEN TO THE WORLD THAT THE BLACK MAN IS ABLE AND HAVE BEEN AS ROLE MODEL TO US AT HOME. LET ME MAKE IT CLEAR TO EVERYONE THAT WERE IT NOT BECAUSE OF SLAVERY THEN THE BLACK MAN WOULD NOT HAVE HAD HIS NAME CARVED IN THE HISTORY OF A MODERN CIVILIZATION OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICAN. OBAMA’S ELECTION IS LIKE JOSEPH’S ASCENSION TO THE POST OF GOVERNOR.
SO MY DEAR BROTHERS AND SISTERS OF AMERICA TIME HAS COME FOR YOU TO WELCOME AND LOVE YOUR BROTHERS AND SISTERS COMING FROM YOUR ANCESTRAL LAND OF AFRICA AS JOSEPH WELCOMES HIS BROTHERS IN EGYPT. I DO NOT SEE THAT THERE ARE MUCH DIFFERENCES BETWEEN THE AFRICAN BORN BLACK MAN AND THE AMERICAN BORN BLACK MAN. IF YOU ARE DISCRIMINATING LIKE THIS IT MEANS IF OBAMA’S FATHER WERE TO BE FALSELY ACCUSED OF COMMITTING A CRIME YOU WOULD NOT STAND BEHIND BECAUSE HE IS A TRADITIONAL AFRICAN MAN. TELL ME HOW THE BLACK MAN WOULD BE LOOKED ON IN THE WORLD AND HOW WOULD OBAMA FEEL? BUT LET ME TELL YOU ONE THING I HAVE NEVER BEEN TO AMERICA BUT I KNOW ONE THING FOR SURE AN AFRICAN BORN BLACK MAN IS A BETTER HUSBAND THAN AN AMERICAN BORN BLACK MAN DRAWING STASTICS FROM THE NUMBER OF DIVORCE CASES AMONG AMERICAN BORN BLACK COUPLES AND AFRICAN BORN BLACK COUPLES. AND LET ME TELL YOU PEOPLE POLYGAMY IS AMOST A HISTORY IN AFRICA BECAUSE IT IS BECOMING RARE. WE HAVE BEEN LEAVING MOST OF OUR TRADITIONAL VALUES WITH THE INTRODUCTION OF CHRISTIANITY AND POLYGAMY IS THE FIRST WE STARTED LEAVING. WE ARE IN THE MODERN SOCIETY, WHERE WE HAVE REALISED THE IMPORTANCE OF ONE MAN ONE WOMAN. TIME IS EVEN LIMITED NOW FOR JUST ONE WIFE AND WE HAVE EVEN BEEN INTRODUCED TO BIRTH CONTROL METHODS. THIS HAS MADE THE YOUNG AFRICAN BORN BLACK MAN WANTS TO MAKE HIS LIFE LIKE OBAMA’S OWN SO HE IS LOOKING UP AT MODERN ETHICAL VALUES TO FOLLOW WHICH WILL PAVE HIS LIFE TO BE LIKE A ROLE MODEL TOO IN THE WORLD.
DEAR BROTHERS AND SISTERS TIME HAS COME FOR YOU TO CLIMB ON THE STATUE OF LIBERTY IN NEW YORK AND SHOUT TO THE WORLD MAGESTICALLY THAT I AM VERY PROUD MY ANCESTORS CAME FROM AFRICA BECAUSE ANYONE WITHOUT HIS ANCESTRAL HISTORY IS LIKE A COUNTRY WITHOUT HER HISTORY. LOOK AT THE JEWS, THE CHINESE AND THE EUROPEANS THEY ARE PROUD OF THEIR ANCESTRAL COUNTRIES. TO YOU WHAT ARE YOU PROUD OF WHEN IT COMES TO YOUR ANCESTRAL HISTORY? IT WAS A DISGRACE WHEN I READ IN ONE FRENCH NEWS PAPERS AND MORGAN FREEMAN PROUDLY SAID HE DID NOT HAVE ANY PROJECT LINKS WITH AFRICA I WANDERED IF HE WERE ASKED TO STAR IN A FILM THAT WERE TO BE SHORT IN AFRICA HE WOULD NOT. I WANDER ALSO THE RACE HE REPRESENTS. YOU HAVE TO COME ON VISITS TO AFRICA FORGET ABOUT THE PICTURES AND DOC**ENTARIES INTERNATIONAL MEDIA ARE AIRING OUT AND LOOK FOR BUSINESS POSSIBILITIES IN AFRICA. THE SAME PEOPLE WHO AIR THOSE DOC**ENTARIES ARE THE SAME PEOPLE WHO COME BEHIND PLEADING TO OUR LEADERSA FOR MARKET OPPORTUNITIES. I KNOW YOU THINK AFRICA IS VERY POOR PLEASE REMOVE THAT MYTH IN YOUR BRAIN IF AFRICA WERE POOR THERE WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN ANY SCRAMBLING FOR AFRICA UP TO DATE BY EUROPEAN, ASIAN AND EVEN THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. IT IS A SHAME THERE NO AMERICAN BORN BLACK MAN WHO CAN BE PROUD TO SAY THAT I HAVE A COMPANY IN AFRICA. EVEN IF YOU WILL NEVER SETTLE IN AFRICA TRY TO INVEST AND DEVELOP AFRICA. I HAVE MY TWO THUMBS UP FOR OPRAH WINFREY, DENZEL WASHINGTON, MICHAEL JACKSON ETC. FOR THE EFFORTS THEY HAVE MADE NOT THOSE WHO CARRY A TON WEIGHT OF EXPENSIVE JEWELRIES AND HANG THEM ON THE THEIR BODIES SAYING THEY ARE EXHIBITING THEIR RICHES WHEN THERE PLACES TO INVEST AND HELP OTHERS AND BE CREDITED BY GOD. IF AFRICA WERE COMPLETELY NOT ADVANCING I THINK SOUTH AFRICA WOULD HAVE STILL BEEN IN WAR BECAUSE NELSON MANDELA WOULD HAVE OPTED FOR REVENGE WHEN HE CAME TO POWER. NOT SURPRISING HE WAS GIVEN A NOBLE PRIZE FOR PEACE AND HIS STATUE ERECTED AMONG THE MOST HONORED PEOPLE IN THE BRITISH SOCIETY. LOOK AT THE PERFOMANCES OF AFRICAN BORN BLACK PEOPLE IN ATHLETISM AND FOOTBALL IN EUROPE. ALL THESE ARE JUST TO RING A BELL TO YOU PEOPLPE THAT BLACK IS BLACK.
SO PLEASE STOP SEGREGATING AMONGST AFRICAN BORN BLACK PEOPLE AND AN AMERICAN BORN BLACK PEOPLE. I LOOK FORWARD IN SEEING AN AMERICAN BLACK MAN FOLLOWING HIS PARTNER TO COME AND SETTLE IN AFRICA OR THE REVERSE. I AM SAYING SO BECAUSE MY NEXT NEIGHBOR’S WIFE IS A BRITISH BORN BLACK WOMAN WHO FOLLWED HER AFRICAN BORN BLACK MAN HUSBAND TO CAMEROON. THERE ARE MANY OTHER CASES OF WHITE WIDOWS WHO ARE HAPPILY STAYING IN CAMEROON AFTER THE DEATHS OF THEIR HUSBANDS.
Personal information I am an African born black man of Cameroon national based in Cameroon and an Aspiring writer. I have written so many works but still looking for a publishing house and I do believe I can describe myself as a keen observer of all life issues and a good analyst so I will be very ready to welcome more queries from people if they want to get to know more.

WOW!! I also love African men, especially Nigerians. Some of them do have that swagger. Where are you my sexy African Kings??

I am from West Africa. Considered myself A Traditional African. This one is for my African American Brothers. Just as I wrote in my previous post about some really good AA girls out there, the same is true of AA men. My brother in law is a true, I mean, traditional African American man and speaking from the heart he is truly a good guy and good to my Older Sis. He is hard working and just cool. When I came to this country he showed me everything about the place, the life, who to hang out with, and who to stay away from. He made me to understand that not ALL AA men have the same thinking. In general, I think AA men are nice. When they put their mind to something, they aways get it. Come to think about it, AA men in whole have opened our eyes, I mean the eyes of ALL African men out of Africa as to what they (African Men) are capable of doing. If it was not for AA men’s fight, their endurance, efforts etc. African Men anywhere out of Africa will be NOBODY. Deep down inside ALL African men knows it. Yes, a few AA men behaved ignorantly but that does not classified everyone of them as the same. SO LETS ALL GIVE THEM THEIR PROPS AND TO MY African sisters, forget that article above. TRY THE BROTHA OUT, HE WILL BRING OUT THE BEST IN YOU. Ask some of your friends who have taken the step, example: My sister.

HELL,It’s really sad to see blacks own brothers torn apart this way.My mother always told me, black itself did not love so it’s not his other brother he’ll love.But let me tell you something, IF YOU KNOW YOUR HISTORY THEN YOU WILL KNOW WHERE U COME FROM….when the white people call us “N*GR**S” they don’t ask if you are a BORN AMERICAN BLACK MAN or a BORN AFRICA BLACK MAN. BLACK is BLACK,but Black Africans have their cultures such as black Americans also have their own……. or someone want to say is black than me lol

Wer’e all African stop the madness. Wer’e all the same stop THE MADNESS! I don’t give a damn WHERE YOU ARE FROM, you are AFRICAN. AFRICANS are us they are WE. We were stolen! Plain and simple and once indoctrinated, we were divided and conquered! No african ships came for my black ass. I went to the African continent in 1990 it felt good! I didn’t act as a foreigner, though I was in Casablanca I did’nt care. I know somewhere on that continent my ancestors are buried. I felt the connection, so when I’m rejected by African women and men, or compared, to someone of the same race because of human predjudice, and misguided opinions I take it personal. It’s sad that our people cannot see the William Lynch Effect that has taken hold of our family values. Wer’e acting too tribal. That’s how the white man defeated the Native Americans. We are so divided we have been conquered not only on a geographical level, but an intelectual as well. Has it come to this where we are so divided wer’e comparing each other? That’s like comparing 2 links on the the same chain. Wake up my brothers and sistas, if we are so traditional why is the common tradition of RESPECT for our own (Black People) and ourselves as indivisuals being ignored? There is no room for predjudice amongst ourselves. Judge the indivisual not where he or she is from, or what so called traditions we have and don’t have in common based on what continent or island we come from.

I am from West Africa, I think the article is poorly written, is one-sided, not consistent with the Theme. It should have just stated what its like to date an African Man without comparing it to African American men. If you are going to compare the two, you should do it equally, not in a one sided way.

I have tell you I was feeling very down today, sometimes it seems every time you turn around all you see is entertainers & athletes with a mic in their face speaking as the voice of our race.I came on here to check a note that a prospective model sent me & seen this article, which i found to be ANNOYING. What got me however was the comments from my Brothers & Sisters out there speaking up for & speaking about our race, some of the comments was pure knowledge, some was over the top, some need to really learn our African history but at the very least the comments shows we care. So thank you fellow BP members, for truly making my day. please forgive any typos

@cestleon..THE ASHANTI PEOPLE..Are a great people found GHANA..the ASHANTI empire covered a great part of present day west Africa.From the Ivory coast to parts of of present day NIGERIA and almost all of BURKINA FASO. The ASHANTI people were one of the few empires that refuse to bow to the British…they fought the British not less than 20 times over many years and were victorious on many occasions. Eventually they were defeated and the royal family of the ASHANTI people exile to the island of Seychelles.
In the final battle the ASHANTIS were lead into war against the British by a Queen called YAA ASHANTIWAA (if you want the female version of the name ASHANTI..IT IS ASHANTIWAA ). THE ASHANTI PEOPLE ARE A PROUD PEOPLE TO THIS DAY AND WE BOW TO NOBODY!..

BEFORE YOU GO DISSING A BROTHER MAYBE YOU SHOULD DO A BIT OF A HISTORICAL RESEARCH! YOU JUST MIGHT BE AND ASHANTI MAN YOURSELF. THIS IS THE KIND OF IGNORANCE THAT MAKE IT DIFFICULT FOR SOME OF US TO RESPECT YOU GUYS..YOU KNOW NOTHING OF YOUR HISTORY…”ASHANTI KOTOKO” ..I AM A PROUD ASHANTIMAN WITH NO APOLOGIES!

CESLEON GOOGLE : THE ASHANTI EMPIRE
http://www.nathanielturner.com/ashantiempire.htm

HUH! GO FIGURE, THERE’S A LOT OF THEM AFRICANS HERE IN AMERICA….HOWEVER THEY R FOR THE MOST HANDSOME AND STRONG LOOKIN’..HOPE AINT NO BEATINS’ GOIN’ ON BEHIND CLOSE QUARTERS..GOD BLESS THEM

-PRTYBLAQ

I dated a man from Gambia for about four months. He was fascinating. GOOD looking, muscular, educated, strong. He was kind to my children and impressed my family. He was generous and paid for everything. He spoke 6 languages, including his native language. I was star struck. I bagan to get suspicious when I couldn’t see him at night. He said he was too tired from working too long.
I finally confronted him. He was married. He wanted me to be his second woman. He even told me that it was the custom in his tribe for a man to have more than one woman. Well, I told him, that’s not my custom! I don’t want to be anyone’s second woman. So, even though it hurt, I had to let hime go…

I am confused about a lot of the comments made here. It’s an article that talks about the differnces between African American men and African men not originally from America. However, instead of paying attention to what the article is talking baout, people are talking about being proud Africans and how there is no differnce–black is black. Yes, black is black, but to deny that there are cultural differnces is IGNORANT. Culture is more that skin color. It’s what you eat, how you pray, what you value, music you listen, etc. To talk about being a proud African or proud African American, etc. seem to be beside the point. Also, to say that there are more important things going on in the world to is also ancillary. We know that there are other more important things to talk about. However, this is a story about dating. If you want to discuss healthcare, the war in Darfur, Education or any other more important topic, don’t comment on something that doesn’t try to be more than what it states. Clearly you have nothing to say about the more important things going on in the world or you’d be commenting there and not trying to put down the author of this article with your self righteous accusations.

well keep on being confused.I AM ALSO CONFUSED ON THE TITLE! specifically the wordings and the arrangements.why is it a “traditional African vs just an AA man?It makes it seem like AA men are culture-less? and not all of them are…shifting more towards one side than the other.It also suggest that all African men are traditional,and not all of them are.so when creating a topic title,choose WISELY.lets not come up in here not even trying to understand our perspective with defense.AND AS MUCH AS YOU IMPLY THAT WE SHOULD SIMPLY dodge THE TOPICS AND I PERSONALLY DO skip MANY THAT ARE POSTED ON These sites>>NEVERTHELESS, why not take some of your own advice and simply BYPASS SOME OF OUR COMMENTS THAT MAY INDIRECTLY BE OFFENSIVE TO YOU? just a friendly suggestion…

Cool article, mostly true, African-American men don’t have any real culture. Many of them do not know how to talk to a woman. They start calling us b***h or shorty which I do not understand. An African will go up to you and ask you for your name. He will never dare call you anything but that. African Men are more respectful and more educated or take education seriously. Most, not all, African-American men to me are very lazy, disrespectful and don’t take education as seriously as African men. I can never date a guy that got a GED, he must have a degree!!! Call me selfish but I have many African-American and White friends especially Jewish friends who are married to African men.

Yes I’d like a foreign man please

Wow I can’t believe that people are this shallow??? what is going on here black people? Some of the posts on here from both sides are crazy, ok. People look it really boils down to this: God made all of us in HIS image. Now HE made each of us so that no two people would be the same, think the same, and act the same. Life is too short to continue down this destructive, negative path. There are so many sweeping generalizations being made on this blog. I read from one person something about AA females being low-class, unintelligent, and full of attitude with multiple kids out-of-wedlock. Look, this may be true for some and untrue for others. I detest when people put me as an AA female in a one-size-fits-all-box. I think it’s unfair to stereotype all aa’s and africans. And from experience I would feel comfortable in noting that I have interacted with different types of people from various places. And honestly, REGARDLESS of whether they’re from the U.S, Africa, Caribbean, Europe, Latin America, or wherever else some have been cool and some have not. The more I live the more I realize that people are people. Some good and some not so good. Yeah, we all have our varying degrees of lifestyles BUT………….

There are certain needs that are COMMON in all HUMANS REGARDLESS of their race, class, culture, etc. Maslow’s hierarchy of needs outlines the following five points :

Maslow’s Hierarchy of Needs
This chart is intended to be read from the bottom up.

A person cannot move to a higher level until each preceding level is satisfied.

When the conditions around you change, your needs probably change too.

Self Actualization Needs
making a lasting and significant contribution
maximizing personal potential

Esteem Needs
self respect
recognition
self confidence
appreciation
competence
status

Social Needs
friendship
a feeling of belonging
acceptance of the group

Safety / Security Needs
protection from physical threat
psychological safety

Physiological Needs
basic survival elements:
food,
water,
air,
shelter

As you can see we humans REGARDLESS of WHO orWHERE have as a fundamental and most important need the physiological, which is food, water, air, shelter. That means that all of us REGARDLESS of where we are geographically located on GOD’s earth need those things for existence. This blog has attempted to divide us based on things such as education, lifestyle, money, and a BUNCH of other mess that TRULY in the end won’t matter when we stand before GOD. How we treat others regardless of whether or not they look, think, dress, act, love, worship, eat, or learn like us is what counts.

See, if you put this in the context of faith, God’s Love and HIS WORD, we realize that we are questioning why HE created the world and its inhabitants. There is a DIVINE REASON for EVERYTHING THAT IS. No where in any scripture that I have read says that we can only love, respect, associate, and interact with only those that are like us??

We all have a profound degree of allegiance to the groups we belong to or eminate from. Ok, that’s cool. However, does that mean that we can’t interact with others that are not a part of that specific group? If that’s the case black people then the struggles that our ancestors endured were truly in VAIN. If they died, were dehumanized, hanged, and afflicted with other human sufferings so that in 2009 all we could do is pit black americans vs. africans that is TRAGIC…..KEEP that 3RD Eye Open…..WAKE UP!

Me & my family are from west Africa; I happen to be born & raised here in beautiful Tennessee. This article is so biased & one-sided. Whoever wrote this must have seen Coming to America to many times!! Every country in Africa is very different & all have seperate beliefs & culture. I like to think of myself as an “African-American” male so I felt absolutely disgusted when I read this. Not all men are dogs!! It’s not always about what someone else can do for you. It’s about what we can do for each other. I’m so sick of hearing black women complaining about their men issues!! The like attracts the like if you are broke & unhappy don’t be suprused when you attract a man just like yourself. If you are negative & fake I personally hope you find a man just like that because you belong together. African American men want positive strong women, someone who can help them grow & learn. In turn a woman with those features will get the man that she deserves. If you have fake hair,fake nail, fake eye lashes, & a fake superficial demeanor to match all of that don’t be fed up when you attract the “like”. I get asked all the time if I still date black women & the more I hear black women complain bring black men down the more I wanna say no I don’t. I date positive women who are beautiful inside & out. Here’s a little tip from a successful black man still in search of a black woman (I might already have one but it’s a little to early to say) black woman should try & make yourself more approachable. When I’m out with my friends I mingle with all types of people. But when it comes to black females many of them are so mean & viciuos!! I’m a strong believer in giving out the energy that you receive. If a person male or female comes up to you politely it is understood that you should greet this person politely whether you happen to be interested or not. YouTube “all men are dog” by Shanel Cooper it’ll reiterate many of the things I wrote here. & to the woman wrote this story it sucks I’m sure you have better articles that uplift people maybe you should write about that (I didn’t check to see if this was written by a man or woman but my wild guess is that a woman wrote this) i don’t wanna come off as for lack of a better term “Dick” but this little story ticked a nerve. In conclusion, I have a daughter of my own & her mother are already trying to groom her personality to be welcoming to all people. I suggest that if you fit any of the stereotypes in my comment maybe you should do the same. When the Queen is ready the King will appear.

Gingerbrooke – I can’t believe your comments about dating an African guy and the reason why you called it “quits”. What nerve you have, having more than one kid from a previous relationship(s), but stuck on having a man that is absolutely single, i.e. probably with no kids or any history of being married. Let me tell you something, once you start having kids, i.e. married or not you’re not qualified to demand what a single woman with no kids would. I don’t know why you’re single with kids, but if it’s any other reason besides death of a spouse; you have no authority setting real relationship standards. I’ll like to see this blog analyze/comment about a topic like; “The 21st century African women Vs. the 21st century African American or American women”. I’m sure women like you would get their feelings hurt after subjects like tradition, culture, ethics, family, relationships were analyzed.

Good luck on finding a single man with no kids, or any relationship baggage.

This article is biased.Africa is a continent and not a country and yes every country does have different beliefs so why not do your research before posting such an article or better yet change the title.And again people share different beliefs so why not take that into consideration before differentiating black men in America and than “traditional”African men,which is completely absurd!

To the gentleman only encountering “vicious” and angry black women in America,maybe it is where you meet these women.just like you said bro ” dont be surprised if you meet a person just like yourself.” unlike black men,there are far more intellectual and independent,accomplished black women in America as a whole searching for black men that are atleast equal to, and they are almost scarce in America.so black women do have reasons for being upset simply because too many black men are uneducated,unemployed,a homosexual or all 3 and can not provide like a man should nor do anything that a black women can not do for herself.As a result,they turn to everything that is negative and take the easy way by running like a true punk.So why not do your research on black men vs. black women in America before jumping into conclusions “bro” ;-)

african men?….we HOT just like an oven lol
african american men may have wet look, pomade hair and green contacts
but we KICK IT
yeah baby

CULTURALLY CONTINENTAL AFRICAN MEN VERY DIFFERENT FROM AA MEN. WE AFRICAN MEN DONT WANT TO BE PLACED IN THE SAME CATEGORY AS AA MEN AND WE ARE PUSHING FOR A DIFFERENT CLASSIFICATION ON JOB FORMS AND SUCH.
I AM A YOUNG MAN WITH 2 BACHELORS DEGREES AND A MASTERS DEGREE,I HAVE BEEN MARRIED FOR TEN YEARS WITH TWO BEAUTIFUL CHILDREN. I AM CULTURED WELL SPOKEN, WELL DRESSED HAVE TRAVELED WIDELY AND LIVED ON THREE DIFFERENT CONTINENTS OVER MY LIFE TIME. BOTH MY PARENTS AND ALL MY SIBLINGS ARE COLLEGE EDUCATED…IT IS RARE TO FIND AN AA MAN THAT CAN SPEAK WELL AND IS REASONABLY WELL EDUCATED, I DON’T WANT TO BE PLACED IN THE SAME BOX AS THEM
WE MAY HAVE THE SAME ANCESTRY BUT THATS WHERE IT BEGINS AND ENDS..WE ARE NOT AND I REPEAT NOT THE SAME!I CANT STAND IGNORANCE

wow, whoever wrote this article is being very biased. i know african american men such as myself who strive to make something of ourselves, while i also know africans who are on the other end of the spectrum. not every situation is the same for every person, and a little side note, african american men were subjugated to esmaculation during slavery, while the native africans were subjugated to colonialism, which esmaculated the african in a different way, this is one reason why things like higher education, money, and speaking “proper and prim” english is highly regarded in many african cultures, because the colonizers (British,French,Portugese,Italian,Spanish) wanted to make the “savage” over in their image, the image of the white man. now, how many of you will take the time to read this, and how many of you will simply agree with the aforementioned article….f**kin’ idiots.

im african and the article is true to some point but comparing it too African American males is absurd, they shud have just sticked to an article on dating Africans….i like African American females more than African females…im already use to them.. the only thing is that most of them are ignorant and they drama( u dnt wanna mess with them), they think africa is a jungle and we all live in bushes.. i dont blame them, its what the white owned media puts out.. i think networks like BET shud expose the urban life of African countries…im sick of the media showing poor african kids on tv with flies perching they head asking you to help,,yes there are pore people suffering in africa but they are poor people suffering every where….

I’ve dated both! Out of the couple of Africans that I’ve dated there was a huge difference between them and the usual African American men that has been in my life. First off I’d like to start by saying that the person who wrote this article was not being biased, they were being realistic! Any American male that say’s that they behave the same as an African, are in total denial! I’ve never in my life experienced a successful relationship until I started dating Africans! They do honestly value their, family, loved ones, children, and women much more than that typical African American male. They are most def more quick to come out the pocket and help you and yours without a question asked or expectations of receiving something in return. Do they cheat? Who doesn’t?!! That’s probably the only thing that they have in common!!!!LOL

Dating an african man was such a different experience. It was kind of bitter sweet. I enjoyed the gifts and the money but that was not what it was all about to me. I felt as if he tried to buy me. He was very pushy as far as what he wanted for my life. I want to be an elementary teacher and he basically shot that idea down and told me i should be a nurse and stay close to him so he could take care of me. I wasn’t having that. Also, he got angry quickly for no reason which is why we still dont talk today. He got mad at me out of no where and said “you cant be trusted by the american way!” to this day i still wonder what he meant. I guess he just wasn’t for me. It was hard to conform to.

Yeah , because if one African treated you well then they ALL must be lile that , right?
It’s all about expectations , anyway

Maybe the trinkets and things you were showered with which meant so much wouldnt have meant diddly to a sister on the continent? and the same way a lot of confused “brothers” are blinded and fall head over heels for anything that isnt or doesnt look like a typical AA sista , a lot of sistas are swept up by anything seen as exotic (light skin and long hair being replaced , in this case , by an accent).

Plus , this is the stupidest , mosy biased article I have read in a while and surfing Black Planet daily that’s saying something…lol

Love to my people from the continent , love to my people in the Carribean , love to my people in Amerikkka and all over.

Uhuru

I am a traditional African man with multiple degrees, and have been married to my beautiful wife and life partner from BeMore, for 28 years. She has her degree also. We have two grown children with degrees and my mum plus 17 other members of my immediate family live in the USA as great and law abiding citizens. My wife and I brought the Village to America. Yes, the traditional Africans and those in the diaspora are one and the same people. Can we all get along; thank you Rodney King for such a profound statement

Marriage is a two way street and I believe that no matter which African American segment you are from, the most important elements in a symbiotic relationship are trust, openness, and teamwork. The rest is gravy.

I am an black American descent male with multiple degrees, heterosexual, no criminal record. It just boggles me of all the stereotyping and divisions that I see. I cannot speak for all black American males, but I managed to maintain myself well. As for those who don’t want anything to do with black Americans, go to hell, and for my Americans who hate Americans, maybe you should go to where the good mates are then. I have nothing to prove to anybody.

OK…this is the problem with the black race,…you think you are American, most blacks have literally disowned the fact that they are African. Ok..first of all, blacks in America need to come to an understanding of who they are, most of us…90% of us, don’t know who we are. Your name doesn’t make u who are are because your name can easily be something else. We have no idenity because we have been stripped of our culture and our heritage. We arE the only people on the face of this Earth that doesn’t truly know our culture or heritage so we have adopted many Eurpoean traditions and values. This is main reason why we lack respect from other races. For example, the brother below me says that he is a black American descent male…..the word descent means to originate from, therefore, one who looks at him sideways would say, your people orginated from the Americas,..are you native Indian?? Then he labels himself as a color with the term American knowing that American is actually a term that Europeans called this country in honor of Amerigus V. , an Italian. Now see, how dumb he would sound to a person who truly knows his history?? I’ll break this down for ya’ll, brother Malcolm once said,” Just because a chicken is born in an oven, don’t make it a busicuit, ….it’s still a chicken” Therefore, just because you were born in America don’t make you American, you’re still an African. What’s the first word in the labeling of our people, African-American…..yet you want to quickly say you’re American. WAKE UP!!

I was born in England, and came to US has a young woman. I have dated black men from different cultural background. and there are differences due to the way they are brought up and beliefs. I have read some of the comments and understand why some AA are upset, but this was only about a certain section of AA men. But not all. But I do find that AA men with West Indian or other background are different, they don’t fight comment, they want they’re women to be ladies and they treat their main ladies like queens. Note the word “main lady”. Cheating is not cultural just done differently. But Americans men can’t totally be blamed to their behavior towards women. It goes way back to slavery when families were pulled apart, later welfare was given faster if the man was not in the home. Some AA were not exposed to the village/family way of life, and commitment not apart of some of their lives. The first man who wanted to marry me was an African man, he was serious but i was only sixteen he was older, nothing sexual happened between us. he never tried to push that on me. But I believe thats why he wanted me. But I was too young and didn’t want that. If you were to ask me how I prefer, African American, African, West Indian or English black man, I would have to say an African American man with west Indian/African background, best of both worlds.

I dont understand how black people in America are so quick to deny themselves as Africans.That is the problem,so many are completely lost and that is why the unification of blacks throughout the world has not happened even in 2009.Black AA men have so much issues that I wouldnt know where to begin.cheating is a thing that every race does from any cultural background.so no comment on that.

But it never seems to amaze me how many black AA in the U.S are disgusted with caucasions but still bare the slave master surname…has anyone ever that of that?

There are some black Americans that has changed their names for a much meaningful surname with true significance,but many to most of you’ll are still baring the name that was once given to your ancesters during slavery.I think that if AA would like to have “their own” and begin the process of uniting with fellow blacks throughout the nation who have culture and significance behind their own names,they should first begin through education and withdrawing from the trap that white people have placed them in…if you know what I mean. In my eyes I still see a whole lot of slavery going on with the slave masters and the children naive enough to fall for it.Children who were not only procreated and biologically related to these masters but some of you African Americans are involved more than ever.They have you’ll just where they want you. SAD but very true…

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