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What’s up Beautiful People!

I hope you all had a wonderful week. You’re smiling, letting the sun shine in your life, and you’re being peaceful and at peace with yourself and others.

Today is, “Straight, From Your Gay Best” Advice Day and I thank you all for sending in your letters. My inbox is flooded with letters and please know I am getting to each and every one of your letters. I promise to answer each one, so please be patient and don’t fret. I got you covered!

Check out this week’s letter and I’ll see you next week for “He Can Get It” Wednesday!

Dear Gay Best Friend,

Me and my man“Vick” have been together for three years. Our relationship has been good over the years. We have been faithful to each other, you know, doing everything right. But, we have reached a disagreement. You see, I have a 3-year-old son – Vick is not my son’s father; we got together a couple of months after my son was born – and Vick wants a child with me. He has no children, so this would be his first child. I want to get married before I have another child, but Vick wants to wait another 4 or 5 years before we get married.

This disagreement is really taking over our relationship. I’m supposed to be moving in with him in June, and the way things are looking, we might not make it to June. So, how can I fix this issue because I really love Vick and I don’t want to lose him – I Want To Get Married First

“I’m Young, Married, And I Want A Divorce!”

Dear I Want To Get Married First,

Girl, I love how folks always want to play house, but don’t want to be the family unit that creates a household.

So, let me get this straight. Vick wants you and your son from another man to move in with him, and he wants you to have another baby with him, but he doesn’t want to get married to you now? Look at that statement and let it soak inside your thick skull.

You’re good enough to lay around and have sex with, but he’s not willing to commit to you right now. Uhm, you need to tell Vick, “No, this is not how this works! If we are going to be a family, and you want me to have your child and all, then we need to get married before I have your baby.”

I am curious as to why Vick is willing to let you and your child, which is not his, move in with him. I am going to go out on a limb and say he probably really does love you and the child, and that it’s not based on a financial situation because he is taking care of you and another man’s child. I think that it is commendable for any man to step in and care for a child that is not his. It shows he is a stand-up guy, and as long as he treats your child as his own, and not differently, Vick is a good guy.

But ask yourself, why can’t he marry you now? What is his hold up? Have you asked him those questions? I mean, Ms. Honey, come on you’ve been dating for three years. He wants to wait another four or five years to marry you. It doesn’t take that long to know if you want to marry someone. I gather something else is going on and he’s not telling you what it is. And, girl, you’ve got a right to know before you start playing house because trust and believe, sweetie, once you move in, he will have the whole cow and the milk.

You and Vick need to communicate. That means having an open dialogue about your relationship and where you both see it going. You have to have a plan. People jump into relationships and you look up and it’s three years later, as in your case, and then you want to know where are we going and what are we doing. Chile, folks be on two different pages, and at two different stages in their relationships because they don’t communicate. They assume a lot about their relationships. And, when you finally have a conversation you discover the two of you are at two different places. One wants to get married, and the other still wants to wait. Girl, miss me with that. But, at least he asked you to move in, but three years later!

Look, girl, if you have expressed to Vick that you don’t want to have another child out of wedlock, and that is a commitment you have made to yourself, then don’t do it. I always tell people do not compromise your values and morals for anyone. No person is worth it. You have to stay true to yourself and if Vick respects you and your ideas on marriage and family, then he will wait to have the baby, and ask you to marry him sooner rather than later. I tell you, some women have babies with men to prove their undying love, yet, right before the child is born, or as soon as the child is born the relationship ends. Not to say this will happen to you, but you did state, “I want to fix this situation because I really love him and don’t want to lose him.” Girl, don’t you go and get pregnant to remedy and try to save your relationship. Again, I say sit down and have a conversation and come to some compromise. Come up with a six-month, and one-year plan. You both need to be on the same page.

My suggestion, Ms. I Want To Get Married First, I say don’t move in with him. Wait. If he is the man for you he will wait and do the right thing. You know how the old folks say, “He will do the proper thing.” Don’t rush into something you are not ready to commit to, especially having another child out of wedlock. And, suppose he doesn’t marry you after you shacked up and had another child, then what?

Like Beyonce sang, “If you liked it, then you should of put a ring on it” – Straight, From Your Gay Best Friend

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  • http://www.blackplanet.com/CaliFemme23/ CaliFemme23

    She answered her own question…”He wants to play house, but he wont marry me..”

    Case closed…

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/SoularFlarez/ SoularFlarez

    get a pre-nup…

    marriage = CONTRACT !!!

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/courtneyR/ courtneyR

    That’s a no no.But to each is own..

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/Kris_87/ Kris_87

    i’ll never understand why people shack up…

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/Real_bumbleclot/ Real_bumbleclot

    Here’s a str8 man’s point of view.

    1st of all they are not shacking up because their not living together yet.

    2nd a person should live with the other person for a lil while before getting married, because that’s when you’ll see the real person.

    Hell most people don’t find out the annoying habits their partner got until they move in together because since their now living together, they can now drop the act.

    Some people test drive a car before they buy it, and some people wanna know their partner 100% before they marry them.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/Kris_87/ Kris_87

    Real_bumbledot, it’s been statistically proven that those who shack up divorce at a higher rate than those who don’t shack up.

    if you believe in shacking up, cool…that’s your opinion. but MY opinion is that it’s not the way to go. what can i say…i’m traditional.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/Kris_87/ Kris_87

    oh, and that divorce rate is of course only if they happen to get married at some point. but most of the time, shacking-up partners don’t end up getting married. lol…looks like a lose-lose situation, now doesn’t it?

    UNLESS…you never planned on marrying the bytch anyway. that sounds about right…

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/bereal34/ bereal34

    NO ONE IS MARRYING NO STANKY ASS BLACK WOMAN THEY ARE ONLY GOOD FOR PLAYING HOUSE WITH NOW IF SHE WAS A WHITE PRETTY WOMAN HELL YES I WOULD MARRRY HER.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/neva1betta/ neva1betta

    bereal…fa real?? i mean wow…lmfao..*f**kin test tube babies* i tell ya smh…anywhooo…ol boi gave her some straight up info…but my thing is, why does someone need advice on things such as this?? like damn it doesnt take a rocket scientist to know this….if uve been with someone for 3 yrs…and theyre still tellin u to wait 4-10 more..uhhhh theyre leaving their options open point blank, thinkin something better is out there…uhh NEXT HIS B***H ASS and keep it movin. I’VE noticed that when it comes to a woman who isnt black “bereal” u have the most positive things to say, but when it comes to a black woman UR START TALKING THAT BULLSHYT..look creature, please do better!!! if not for yourself, for everyone else 2 the creatures like u also..no1 wants to hear that meaningless bulls**t..if u like white women fine…we get it…but dont talk like all black women are worthless (u seem to do that on every post)…besides many of u cant offer anything but a headache and A orgasm (if that) *shrugs* so yea save that shyt for a white woman, please and thank u ; )…OUTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTA

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/neva1betta/ neva1betta

    im all for ppl doin their own thing thats ur business…but i think that really when u “shack up”, have kids, sexn all the damn time…..theres really no reason to want a marriage…thats what MARRIED PPL DO…Know what i mean?? I hear that often to, that its better to live with someone first 2 get to know them…..uhhhhh thats y u put in time with ur woman/man, isnt it?? correct me if im wrong. Besides, regardless of what kind of habits someone have..when u choose to be with them..ur supposed to be accepting them FLAWS AND ALL, RIGHT????? So why would “habits” play a role in whether u marry someone, uve been with for awhile…whether ur living together or not??? i know i show the real me from jump…so if ure with a person thats on some fake shyt not showing u the real “them”.. u shouldnt be dealin with them period. THIS has been ur “keep it real segment” from GENAE’ lol (neeeeeeeeeeeeext)

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/jazzwatch/ jazzwatch

    He’s S-C-A-R-E-D……of divorce, alimoney, sposal support, etc etc, but if you live together (like my brother does with his lady), she could STILL get money from you if you break up; not a lot of people know that…..
    I wanna marry the HOTTIE (you gotta take a chance at least ONCE in your life); whho wants to be lonely??? No me……

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/Lovevon/ Lovevon

    Here go women again. She doesn’t need advice. She needs to listen to what her man is saying. He gave her a definite timeline. How the hell you do that when you love someone.

    Anyways, I am opposed to moving in. What else would he have to look forward to when thinking about marriage? She needs to just keep her own place and if she don’t want to lose him wait it out. Moving in with him will only complicate things and increase the odds of her getting pregnant.

    @ jazzwatch…why does this have to be about money?

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/creamychocolate24/ creamychocolate24

    DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONT DO IT ! LOL smh I already know shes going to move in with him I dont know why women ask questions like this knowing what thier going to do anyway. Shacking is a No No and a baby oh hell No girl if he like it he better put a ring on it.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/MiSz_PiNk_DiamOnd/ MiSz_PiNk_DiamOnd

    Kris..actually a study came out a few months ago that said the divorce rates of those who live together versus the ones who didnt before marriage, were pretty much the same. It makes sense to me because if you are in love with someone, and married to them, living with them shouldnt cause a deal breaker. I wouldnt divorce my husband because he leaves the seat up or forgets to put his dirty clothes in the hamper.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/Real_bumbleclot/ Real_bumbleclot

    Kris87

    My moms and pops shacked up before they got married, as well as my aunts and uncles. No one in my family been in a divorce yet. Me and my girl been together 6yrs, shacked up for 1yr and we got married 2months ago.

    She was pressuring me to get married at 1st, so I told her we need to move in together to see if we can actually live together 1st. She said the same ” I don’t shack up” line too. Until I told her staying with each other on weekends and living together is to different things. Now she always tells me she glad we moved in together b4 we got married, since she don’t have to adjust to married life cause we did that b4 we got married.

    @Neva1betta

    It aint got nothing to do with keep it real or being fake. You just can’t be living by yourself, then get married and move in together. And think things is gonna be perfect. Since its 2 people living in 1 house for the 1st time. Its somethings your use to doing, that your gonna have to stop doing and somethings your gonna have to start doing that your not use to doing, because change is not going to happen over night.

    Now ladies if you been living with a man 4 awhile and he aint talking bout marring you, then by all means live, but if your not living together and he say move he say he wanna move in together 1st b4 getting married, ask 4 a time frame and hold him to his word.

    Remeber its birthcontrol and rubbers out there if you don’t wanna get pregnant b4 you get married.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/jazzwatch/ jazzwatch

    Lovevon. it isn’t like if 2 people live together over a period of time, break up and then leave; that same couple could have a baby or he has a great job or both, and when they slpit up money will have to come in there somewhere…..now you know when a guy and a gal split up after years together (common in law marriage) money WILL come into the equasion; it has to……

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/Redalert7/ Redalert7

    @Real_bumbleclot

    I agree with what you have to say. I am speaking from experience and from the people i know. The ones who took the time to get to know their partners are still involved or married. I’m not saying your or my opinion is the way to go, but to me it makes sense to get to know the person first.

    As you mentioned, a partners true self doesn’t get revealed until you are in close proximity with them on a day to day basis; some people are good at hiding how they truly are when meeting on a weekend or every other day. The real test is putting up with a partners habits. Not many people are good at tolerating/adjusting to someone else’s habits.

    In this situation, i really don’t feel that it makes a difference if she marries now or 4yrs later. They could get married now, and still divorce the year after. If they are going to be together, they will be together. Some people lose their minds when they get married and demand incredibly high expectations, or they change. People have to learn to be humble, love and respect each other and be there for each other, without feeling the need that a certificate will seal everything.

    Soularflarez hit the nail on the head. Marriage is a CONTRACT…..it’s the marriage between a couple and the state. Look up what the definition of a licence means. A state licence is the law of man, and not the law of God. Marriage in the early ages was a contract between two families, and didn’t involve the state. Two people can cohabit because it’s our natural right. As the law stands no matter how you want to cohabit, there is always going to be a financial obligation to the child, and a real man will always look after his child. .

    The sad thing is when a partner sees dollar signs if their partner is rich…….this is where the law has to change. Look at the Nas situation…..lol.

    Many people are not marrying out of love, but out of stability and security….which is understandable. But i wonder if some people would get married or even rush to get a divorce, if they knew that not one dime could be accrued out of a divorce.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/neva1betta/ neva1betta

    be real said in my inbox “WHY IS YOUR FAT ASS ADDRESSING ME IN THE COMMENTS ..LOL..I SAY WHAT THE F**K I WANT LITTLE FAT GIRL, YOU NOT WHITE SO DON’T SAY S**T TO ME I ONLY WANT THE BEST TALKING TO ME.” WOOOOOOOOOOOOW LOL….well after seeing you (period) i dont even THINK a white woman would waste her time with ur ass, SHE WOULD JUST have 2 b BLIND not color blind to deal with ur FUGLY ASS. Callin me fat, like ure in shape pahahahahaha LMBAO uhh im no skinny ass chick..but u better believe EVERYTHINGS ALLLLLL GOOD OVER HERE ; ) *SATISFACTION GUARANTEED* in all aspects…so go play in traffic, and let the short bus hit yo big ass. ALSO, you dont look to be built for a black woman or a white woman..more like the mate for a WHITE MAN or a water buffalo lmfao. U LOOK LIKE A SCIENCE EXPERIMENT GON WRONG….ugly ass ppl always act like they have options with that said….DISGUSTING HAHA…O YEA PLEASE…LET THE WHITE WOMEN HAVE U BRUH….UGH!

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/neva1betta/ neva1betta

    iits just that siimple ppl…either ur for it or against it…WHEN U GET MARRIED, U LIVE TOGETHER…..so either ur gonna go for it or u wont…but then u have ppl that want to live as if theyre married anyway…so i think for some its just a damn excuse to not get married…anyway to each their own…i wont go for that bullshyt

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/bereal34/ bereal34

    THIS LIL FAT GIRL IS ALL OFF SUBJECT AGAIN SHE JUST CAN’T STOP THINKING ALL ME THIS IS WHAT LUST DOES TO A SILLY HO BRAIN…LOL…NOW BACK TO THE SUBJECT WHO REALLY WANTS TO WASTE THEIR TIME DEALING WITH A SORRY ASS BLACK WOMAN FOR LIFE SO YES WE PLAY HOUSE WITH YOU’LL DUMB ASSES AND WE MARRY THE WHITE CHICKS.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/Kris_87/ Kris_87

    Real_bumbledot, that’s great if it worked for you…but i couldn’t be that girl that you speak of. being in a relationship for 6 years? pressuring him to marry me? LETTING him pressure me into compromising my values? uh…no thanks.

    see neva1betta’s first comment for my full opinion. she said it all.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/neva1betta/ neva1betta

    who the hell is we@ bereal?? lol, are u married to a white woman?? prob not because no1 wants ur ugly ass, them either, so stop with that bull dude lmfao..YA UGLY MUTHAFUKKA HAHAHAHA….

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/pantherg08/ pantherg08

    No wonder u women on here or so f**ked up in the head on men, u guys are taking advice from a gay guy!!!! ReallY? Are u serious?

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/bereal34/ bereal34

    THIS LIL FAT GIRL IS STILL ADDRESSING ME PUBLICLY…LOL…NEVA1BETTA ARE YOU IN LOVE WITH ME BABY?

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/Kashi101/ Kashi101

    all men would play house if allowed. all men want a warm body to lay up w/ every night, split the bills w/, help take care of them and their needs. in fact, even my christian husband insulted me by making the offer of me moving in w/ him while we were dating like that was an honor or something. i was insulted b/c i don’t look cheap, act cheap, nor did he meet me as some cheap easy broad. told him im not interested in “playing house” b/c im grown and i didn’t love him more than i loved the lord

    within the next couple of months i had a big diamond and a few months after that we were walking down the aisle.
    the idea of moving in together sounds enticing but seriously, it’s almost always suggesting youre willing to be a free cow. iv heard rumors of success stories but every lady i know ended up another baby deep and flat on her face lol

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/bereal34/ bereal34

    YOU ARE CHEAP WHAT IN THE HELL HAVE YOU THINKING YOU AREN’T HELL AREN’T YOU BLACK WELL THEN YOU ARE CHEAP, SURE U WILL GET A DIAMOND IN A FEW MONTHS KEEP WAITING ON IT, IF THE MAN WANTED TO GIVE YOU A DIAMOND YOU WOULD HAVE IT NOW GET REAL SILLY ASS SISTAH.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/AL-HAQ/ AL-HAQ

    DUMB ASS WHY BUY THE COW, WHEN YOU’RE GETTING THE MILK FOR FREE? HE’S GETTING THE P***Y AND EVERYTHING ELSE ALREADY….WHY WOULD HE MARRY YOU? (UNLESS HE TRUELY LOVES YOU)

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/Kashi101/ Kashi101

    bereal i dont think you read what i said. he strait up tried me to see what he could get away with. you see something you want in the store, you like it fine, but you want to see the sales price anyway. is it on sale? or is it full priced? youre probably willing to pay for it either way but you want it for cheaper if you could right? yeah im right

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/bereal34/ bereal34

    WELL CONGRATS KASHI101 YOU MAKING ME THINK BLACK WOMEN ARE OK U R A SMART SISTAH.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/Kris_87/ Kris_87

    Kashi101, i applaud you! you didn’t compromise your values, and STILL got what you wanted. let ‘em know…

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/neva1betta/ neva1betta

    @Kashi, yes thats exactly how it should work ; )…i dont know y the hell many women cant see that..(IN THIS SITUATION) when u give up what u want because u want to make a man happy…u still will only set urself up for failure, u dont get the marriage u want…but he gets to have u live with him, gets to have sex with u WHEREVER/WHENEVER, MAY EVEN GIVE U A COUPLE OF BABIES….And for what? some common law bulls**t…ugh! GTFOH with that

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/sensational5697/ sensational5697

    al-haq took the exact words right out of my mouth, WOMEN BE SMART !

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/BaataDane/ BaataDane

    if u say you want marriage before you have another child then thats what you should do. i dont know his reasoning but if he serious about you 3 years is long enough for a synopsis of how you are. you have a child also so you not just wasting your time by continuing in an “i dont really know what i want yet” situation. moving in could be good but be careful.

    ultimatums are not good but get a full understanding before moving in where that is going and def no child before the ring.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/Mungu1/ Mungu1

    the legality of marriage to me is just an insurance policy. or it helps to raise stats of black marriage. i hardly know any marriages that has lasted as long as my relationship with my ex. i have a feeling that if we were married, we would be hardly talking today and the kids would’ve suffered. reason being is that divorce causes animosity, even when there is no need for it. i have seen the effects of divorce. but i dont know if its just my observation, but it seems couples who were not married, have better child parent friendships than those who were and got divorced. ive dated a few divorced women.

    am i wrong?

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/Mungu1/ Mungu1

    Califemme

    yep integration. the more we mix, the more we go to prison and are unemployed. isnt it amazing that we had more institutions, employment, businesses, family and self determination before the end of segregation. the problem with segregation though is that the whites still couldnt just leave us the fuuck alone!. hence civil rights movement..

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/Mungu1/ Mungu1

    sorry wrong topic! hahahahahaha!

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/doing_me74/ doing_me74

    Vick a fool for dating a female with a kid an want to have one by her.Lets look at her situation why is she a single mother ? what mistakes probably she made?also most men like vick is a fool for taking on another mans responsibility that’s stupid.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/toodelicious4u/ toodelicious4u

    For doing_me74!!!! Have it ever occurred to you that most women are single moms becuz there are so many low life MF men out here that ask for responsibility but don’t wanna take are of it!!!! I wouldn’t be shock if you are one of them! Anyways back to the subject, Nobody should change their standards and Wants in order to please anyone so, he can either except your rules or move on if it makes him that unhappy! And as far as getting married before shacking up goes…. in my opinion I believe that you should live with the person first becuz if you can’t stand waking up to them every day than that will be the determining factor to if you wanna spend the rest of your life with them.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/mynetworker/ mynetworker

    Greetings Terrance You hit the nail right in the hole with one bang!
    Sister wake up and feel freedom, Communication and Respect is Key. He has already told you straight from his lips NO. as far as I’m concern he saying, I don’t want to marry you. Come on 4 to 5 years, take your hand and smack yourself side the head and wake up. Move forward and stay put moving in your own direction…If he really Loves you and your son the answer would have been, let’s start making plans!!!

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/SheFly69/ SheFly69

    I know I’m going to get slack from the ladies BUT>>>>Alot of single women are single mother’s because 1.) They don’t make the man wear a raincoat or 2.) Don’t practice birth control, and 3.) Are ignorant enough to think that if they have a baby the man will marry them. I wish I had a census on the number of women that are abandoned or widowed. When will women take the initiate and understand that men have sex for pleasure and they don’t birth children. These women are dumb to put themselves in this position and then get mad because the man doesn’t marry them. Then they label him a dog. Most men only want sex, not committment or marriage, and will say anything to get it.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/soveu34/ soveu34

    How stupid can you be if you have a baby with a man and not be married to him. What dumazz says ok yeah I don’t want to get marry until 5 or 6 years and than drop his baby(oh wait their are plenty of you running around this country today.) but anyways if you have to ask this dumazz question than you don’t love yourself enough to know you deserve a husband, a father for your child, a partner to build your family and not a long term booti call because that is all that you will be to him and when he want to skip he can just pack his sh it with no obligation to you and his child. That is except when you file child support against his azz which he’ll be mad because he didn’t think about the financial support of the child when he was dropping his s perm up in ya. Be wise and tell his azz no marriage no baby carriage so fk him and men like him lol…

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/eccentric_01/ eccentric_01

    @BEREAL34-U DO REALIZE THAT YOU ARE CALLING YOUR MOTHER A STANKY BLACK WOMAN DONT YOU? So Michelle Obama and Oprah Winfrey are stanky black women? Rosa Parks, Harriet Tubman that freed slaves in your family tree and all of the black women that fought for your rights? I guess A STANKY BLACK WOMAN called YOUR MOTHER must have raised you? Whats wrong was your MOTHER on crack? Did she suck d**for a living? was your grandmother molesting your small dick? must have been some stanky black women in your family tree-however if the KKK sees u coming they will take your BLACK ASS and chop your small black dick off so liking white women does not give u a pass. Do you have a college degree? How much money do you make per year? Im not a gold-digger i make my own money. Just asking the question so I can understand why your level of ignorance makes you think you are worth anything. since you want2stereotype ALL BLACK WOMEN-how about i stereotype you-you black dum uneducated HIV having, gold-tooth having irresponsible baby making s**tty, no father having, mis-spelling stupid misogynist mendacious criminal record having ebonics talking down low, low income BYTCH. LUCKILY, I DO NOT STEREOTYPE ALL BLACK MEN like this-but i will say you sound completely stupid. your great-grandfather wz a slave in chains sitting on the back of the bus n**more black women r enrolled in college than white women read a book u dum nigg**

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/bereal34/ bereal34

    ..lol…ECCENTRIC_01 HAPPY MOTHERS DAY, AND YOU CAN GATHER ALL THE ANSWER TO YOUR QUESTIONS FROM LOOKING AT THE PROFILE, AND PIC’S ON MY PAGE HEY ENJOY YOURSELF HAVE A BLESSED ONE.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/Toni_Anthony/ Toni_Anthony

    WHY BUY THE COW & THE MILK IS FREE???

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/doing_me74/ doing_me74

    todelicious Im not having kids so it’s not my responsibility to raise some one else kids that’s stupid.And if women meet men like that what that said about her choice of men lol.because Im pretty much sure their women who are single parent but their men still take care of their kids because that women made a good choice in a man lol

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/CaliFemme23/ CaliFemme23

    eccentric_01,
    Bereal34 absolutely adores black women….;-)

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/DAREALRECKLESS/ DAREALRECKLESS

    playing house is fun………….until it’s time to pay the bills!

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/wincie/ wincie

    i refuse to play house unless i have no place to go and hes paying the bills other than that why buy the cow when the milk is free……i’m not going to be a wifey or a babymomma i wanna have mrs. in front of my last name

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/AL-HAQ/ AL-HAQ

    UUUUUUUUUUHHH…TONI ANTHONY STOP DOIN’ ME AND DO YOU!

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/TonyaMcmahan401/ TonyaMcmahan401

    Playing house yeah if that man wants a baby with her but he wants to wait 4 to 5 years to get married and he will be waiting 4 to 5 years to get a baby too forget that it just a mess waiting to happen he don’t really love u so get the hell on Next!!!

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/RellyRel05/ RellyRel05

    I ain’t even gotta read the article. Ladies this is why your mom (if she had any sense and wasn’t shacking up her damn self…), told you never to shack up. How many people are really bout to buy the cow when they already get the milk free?

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/DACountry_Boy/ DACountry_Boy

    The rule is, never live with a man or woman until he puts that engagement ring on your finger, then you begin the live together trail to see if your “styles” mesh. No man is really going to marry you if you shacked up with no real commitment in sight…at least with a ring, you know when your deadline is up!

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/doing_me74/ doing_me74

    An another thing I wouldn’t live with any women I’ll rather have my own in that I don’t have to take any female personally when they have problems.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/MiSz_PiNk_DiamOnd/ MiSz_PiNk_DiamOnd

    DACountry_Boy, a ring and a date! Lol dont forget some people are ‘engaged’ for ever! An old personal trainer of mine has a ‘baby mama’ that lives with their two kids in her mom’s house…He ‘proposed’ to her at the baby shower of the 2nd child..Mind you she was about 6 months preggers. Now the child is almost 2 yrs old and they still have NO date..LOL

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/leunka/ leunka

    Make sure marriage is what you really want because once that contract is signed it’s hell getting out of it. Here in Milwaukee if one of the parties don’t want a divorce all they have to tell the judge is that they want to go to counseling and the judge is not granting that divorce no matter how bad the other wants it. It’s happened to two friends of mine and a relative already so just be sure you want to spend the rest of your life with that person before you sign that paper.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/SUMMER_SO_FINE/ SUMMER_SO_FINE

    Why buy the cow when you can get the milk for free. SIMPLE! If he doesn’t want to marry you, ON TO THE NEXT ONE. SIMPLE! Regardless of a ring, if a man wants to get married, there will be no second guess. Forcing the issue and moving in isn’t doing anything because when he is tired of you and wants to step off, HE Will unless he figures is cheaper to keep her and do his thing on the side. So this young lady should NOT move in, and definately should not have a baby for this man. Basically, he wants her to move in so he can have her, at the same time, he wants to be able to have his freedom of not been obligated to a marriage JUST INCASE….That’s the game. Meanwhile, she probably feels like he must love her, to want her and her son to move and because he wants her to have his baby…blah blah blah. So typical..For the record, no female should have to ‘Suggest’ to a man about marrying her and if the topic of MARRIAGe is causing chaos to the point it is interfering with the relationship, this should tell this brawd, the dude doesn’t want you enough to have that commitment. Oh well, she will probably move in anyway, to secure her feelings believing that he really loves her, have his baby, ruining her life goals (if she has any) to raise two children and as soon as a next nice piece of A$$ comes along, he will be ON TO THE NEXT ONE. Why? cause he darn milked all he can out of the cow at home and is ready to move on to the next MOO MOO. SMH….

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/LegendBlkOne/ LegendBlkOne

    All of this marriage stuff, the whole thing is overrated.

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  • http://www.blackplanet.com/masculine31/ masculine31

    lmfao…

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/bereal34/ bereal34

    …LOL…ANY HO DUMB ENOUGH TO PLAY HOUSE IN MOVE IN WITH A MAN AND START HAVING BABIES IS THE WEAKEST FORM OF WOMAN OUT THERE BECAUSE MEN LOOK FOR IDOITS TO HAVE THEIR KIDS AND LET HIM GET ALL THE FREE PANTANG HE CAN GET THEN THEY GET GHOST ON HER 5 KIDS HAVING LOSSE PANTANG AZZ….LOL…IT’S A HARD GAME.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/MAXAMIL1/ MAXAMIL1

    Here is why a man may wants you to live with him and not marry you.It’s the walk away factor. 70 t0 80% of marriages FAIL!!! Now if he marries you and it does not work. Now he is stuck pay you alimony until you get married again and who knows when that is going to happen. And if he is stupid and stupider and has a kid he is screwed. Now if he is smart and does not have a kid and they break up then they just walk away.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/King_Jefe/ King_Jefe

    If this were one of my sister’s I’d have to smack her for even considering this. You’re good enough to be his “baby mamma” (ugh), but not his wife? There are so many red flags that this is the wrong guy for you it’s not even funny. A man shouldn’t have to be forced, tricked, or pressured into marriage. If so it’s doomed from the start, simple as that….

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/guilty_j05/ guilty_j05

    u just in house p**y. simple as that.and you not his only girl. a man no in ten mins. if u wifey or not.so theres yo answer

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/venom11/ venom11

    Some people just can’t co-habiatae with eachother reguardless of what they feel about eachother. Having another kid is a mistake without the ring because if it doesn’t work out a woman’s selection decreases. Allowing this man to be a serrogate father to the child she has is also a mistake until they are at least enguaged because the child is being tied up in this situation prematurely. If that man, or any decient man, decides to wed this lady and raise that child as part of his family I commend him and respect that. By there being a child with no blood ties to this man, she needs to fall back for the sake of her child and herself. Multiple baby daddies is not a good look ladies. Honestly, it makes you look like s**ts and not wife material anyway. I wouldn’t get that involved with a woman who has baby daddies or kids without being married to that man at some point. I also wouldn’t have multiple baby mama’s and expect any self respecting woman with a future to get involved with all that because I would be showing her by default that I am not husband material nor trustworthy. I have been married and my wife and I have children. Neither one of us has children by anyone else and neither one of us want any more children with anyone else. That bond we shared and the experience of being parents is still strong to this day and I am fortunate to be involved with someone I can work with. Unfortunately, we as people seem too willing to go thru that with people before we really know who we are entering that commitment with. I, personally am making the preperations to ensure no mistakes will be made on my end by getting my baby making abilities terminated ASAP. I don’t intend on ever being married again or living with anyone else because i’ve already shared those experiences and have no desire to do those things with another. Plus I believe that my children will be adversely be affected and I can’t tolerate that. Also, when you involve children in a relationship, you also involve the other parent by default. It’s not my buisness who my estranged wife chooses to have a relationship with it is very much my buisness who she has around our children. The same goes for me also, she has more than a right to know who I would be bringing around our children no matter what we feel about eachother. That’s just a part of the game when both parents are involved and responsible. By the way, this article doesn’t mention if the father of this child is handling his parental responsibilities because that should be a major factor. These children with trash mommies and daddies are multiplying exponentially and are carrying on the garbage tradition. These children are societies problem, therefore, they are our problem. I don’t want to contribute to that and any self respecting woman with a future shouldn’t either. I don’t know the letter writer’s background situation but if she has a baby daddy and not an ex-husband she may be one of those statistics. If a lady with no children wants to move in with a man with no children to get familliar that is totally different than either one of them bringing children into the mix. Us as men and women need to think about what we do before we do it.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/hotep6/ hotep6

    Ladies, you have to understand that us men view marriage differently than you do. Most women view marriage as the ultimate accomplishment, and a direct source of the security that evey woman wants by nature. We do no see it as such. We see it as a commitment that takes complete control away from us over our lives, which if it ends in divorce, will be a commitment that we will have to pay for substantially. To you it represents security, to us it represents risk. Therefore, a man, if he is intelligent, will realize the importance of ensuring that this is the right woman before he gives her ‘papers’ on him. You wll not get the ring until you earn that trust completely. It’s not that we are afraid of commitment, we are afraid of you!!!

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/shyscorpio1/ shyscorpio1

    sorry but i have to agree with the author on this one! its ok to get sexed but NEVER UNDER ANY CIRC**STANCES ARE YOU TO GET PREGNANT BY A MAN WHO CLAIMS TO BE LOOKING AFTER YOU AND YOURS!!!
    that goes for all girls and women- accidents can happen but dont buy the mind fu$k of ‘i want you to have my baby so i can drop by anytime after our relationship has stopped and get some a$$!’
    if he loves you, he would never have asked you to do that dumb $hit in the first place! he is setting you up for the big screw job!
    a$$ at home-a$$ lin the street!
    you cant win and i would tell you to move on and stop trying to get married, just find a good guy and always keep condoms or spermicide til he surprises you with a ring!
    i think what you dont ask for aloud and dont outwardly seek leads you to more precise situations where you do find and get the things you secretly desire!
    love and marriage are very scary for men to hear and contiplate, because it is the FINAL step into lifelong situatiloon he may not be interesteed in!
    never give a ultimatum and just give it enough timne to get ready to move on!
    just because somebody can make you kum, doesnt mean he is mmarriage material either, any toy can accomplish the same thing and not give you the same misery you may set yourself up for!
    live your life without waiting for any one man, we find independent women HIGHLY attractive!!!

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/KINESHIA/ KINESHIA

    FIrst OF ALL SHE NEED NOT 2 Play House n the first place and Might Be 2 L8 anyway Cuz he already GoT tHe GooDS!! ” SMH ” DEF Dont have a BABy Or You And Yo ” 2 ” Kids will be In The SAME Position You in Now. Mm Yea ima say He Needs TA ” Put A RING ON it “

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/TallPaul7/ TallPaul7

    It doesn’t matter. After awhile common law marriage sets in.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/SunnyCocoa/ SunnyCocoa

    Why buy the cow when he gets the milk for free? @ TallPaul7 common law does not hold in all states. The man has no need to marry her as she obviously has no problem considering starting a family without that type of commitment and he knows that. Why the HELL would you even consider having a child out of wedlock with him? I don’t understand how she would even be OK with him asking that ridiculous question. SMH. @ shyscorpio1 you hit the nail on the head.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/everymansdream9/ everymansdream9

    @TallPaul7 Common law marriage does not exist anymore. It ended in 2005 and even if this were not the case, common law marriage would not be recognized until after seven years of residing in the same home and not all agencies would have to recognize the marriage. GOD forbid if the man died, she’d have no legal rights to his affairs or finances.
    I agree with SunnyCocoa, he needs to marry her. Why is it so common for most Black men to want a child BEFORE marriage? I never understood that.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/blakin1/ blakin1

    DON’T EVEN TRY IT SISTER GIRL, IF GIVEN YOU FOUR TO FIVE YEARS THAT IS A BIG_ FAT_ JOKE!! DON’T MOVE IN, DON’T HAVE NO KIDS TRUST ME YOU WILL REGRET IT! YOU DO BETTER KEEPING IT LIKE IT IS WITH NO MORE DISCUSSION ABOUT IT. FOUR OR FIVE YEARS YOU CAN FIND THAT RIGHT ONE TO MARRY.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/scrum_cious/ scrum_cious

    1st mistake is MOVING in with “him”! DONT DO IT!if you are going to get a place with a guy, GET IT TOGETHER making sure “both” your names are on that LEASE…or just yours.

    2nd, any man that is willing to have a child FIRST rather than doing the right thing (putting that ring on your finger) is subject to QUESTION for the LONG TERM. PLAYING HOUSE is the right term, so many couples do it, women quick to say “MY MAN, MY MAN, MY MAN” when they are doing nothing more than “SHACKING UP” with each other, house full of kids but no MARRIAGE certificate or rings on the finger? Stick to your guns…NO RING-NO BABY!If he leaves, let him leave! May seem hard to believe, but perhaps he leaves because he was never meant to be with you in the first place.

    There is an old saying, “WHY BUY THE COW when he can get the MILK FOR FREE?”. So he has the relationship, “live-in” family life, and all “with out”- the RINGS/MARRIAGE CERTIFICATE attactched. &after 3 years? If he hasnt done it already chances are he never will. The worst thing you can do is PRESSURE a man to Marry you. While he may eventually pop the question (after so much pressure), he most likely isnt ready at the same time.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/Perionne27/ Perionne27

    I mean some guys would rather wait before getting married. What if you get married, then divorce even after having the kid? Not much of a difference. It all comes down to how much faith she has in the relationship. If she doesn’t feel like they’ll last, don’t have the kid let alone getting married

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/torri2/ torri2

    Hi there!

    if he was a real man, he wouldn’ act like a dam punk! he asked you to marry him, but he doesn’t want to make that next step to marriage ’cause he wants the “whole package” without the payment!

    that tells you alot right there about your mate/significant other. you shouldn’t have to wait until he comes around to marry you, you’ll be a dam fool if you did.
    just let him know this”he had a good-woman in his life and he will never find another like you”!

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/johnnyquick/ johnnyquick

    Why is anyone surprised by this? Its a well-researched fact that men of all races are marrying later in life or not at all, and with good reason. We as men tend to be wealthier and more self-sufficient than women. if we get locked down in marriage funtime is over and we run the risk of losing everything we’ve worked for in a messy divorce. Look at the statistics before you comment; its a good time to be a single man.

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  • http://www.blackplanet.com/jnj3/ jnj3

    MAybe he’s thinking well you did it once why not do it for me if I’m willing to hang around

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/1SexcellentGal/ 1SexcellentGal

    lets make this plain and simple …he dont want to wait for a few years, the simple truth is…somebody hit the drum…he don’t want to marry you

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/naturalladyofwisdom/ naturalladyofwisdom

    WOMEN SHOULD KNOW THEIR WORTH, VALUED THEMSELVES! A MAN CAN ALWAYS SPEAK HOW HE WANTS YOU AND CHARM YOU WITH GIFTS, SOCIALISED WITH HIS RELATIVES AND FRIENDS, BUT IF HE AINT SAY ” MARRY ME, YOU JUST AIN’T ENOUGH! ….. FORGET ABOUT MAKING EXCUSES FOR HIM HOW HE IS COLD FEET, HE WASN’T WHEN HE WAS SLAPPING IT, NO EXCUSE! WE MUST GET CLARITY ABOUT THE MAN, KNOW HIM ENOUGH AND WHAT YOU ARE ALLOWING YOURSELF TO FALL IN LIVE WITH. IF HE AINT MARRY YOU THEN HOLD IT DOWN WOMEN! IF HE CAN GET IT WHY NOT TAKE IT? WHY MARRY? THINK! SOME MEN DO MARRY AFETR SEX, BUT DON’T GIVE UP NO GROUNDS IF YOU CANT GAIN THE MOST IMPORTANT GROUND! KEEP IT LOCK, THEIR IS GREATER IN YOU THAN HE THAT IS IN THE WORLD. DON’T LET THEM TRAMPLE ON YOUR PEARLS. (if he wants to divorce sooner or later down the road, Hey, YOU HAD ALREADY KEPT YOU DIGNITY AND WALK IN INTEGRITY WITH STRONG MORALS THAT SHAPED YOU IN THE FIRST PLACE, he did marry YOU).
    WOMEN DO NOT ALLOW YOURSELF TO BE VALIDATED BY NO MAN! OR ANYONE! OFTEN TIMES WOMEN GET THIS MISUNDERSTANDING THAT YOU CAN JUST GIVE IT UP OUT OF EMOTIONAL, LUST AND SOCIO-ECOMONIC NEED: BUT SEEK GOD AND LET HIS SPIRIT GIVE YOU THE POWER TO OVERCOME, YES THAT’S SELF-CONTROL! AS FOR THOSE WHO TALKS ABOUT HOW CHRISTIAN IS EASY, HUH, THE FLESH IS RAGING WITH HARMONES, BUT CHRISTIANS KNOW THAT SEX WITHOUT MARRIAGE IS FORNICATION AND IT IS ABOMINATION, Corinthians, CoLossians reads that Sex-Sin is Idolatry! for then you are committing your body members to dead works, DISOBEDIENT TO GOD and lack of Faith in God! That is why WE CRUCIFY THE FLESH: WE DO NOT LIVE BY THE DICTATES OF THE FLESH! WE ARE TO BE ANOINTED AND LED BY THE HOLY SPIRIT KNOWING THAT WE ARE SONS AND DAUGHTERS OF THE MOST HIGH! if any Christians is having sex without your Wife or Husband, THERE IS “GRACE” MY SISTERS AND BROTHERS IN JESUS CHRIST! GOD LOVES YOU SO TURN TO HIM FOR FORGIVENESS AND REPENT, HE IS WAITING AT YOUR HEART DOOR. DO YOU LOVE HIM???? TELL HIM YES LORD JESUS!

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/naturalladyofwisdom/ naturalladyofwisdom

    For those who say christians want to marry as they begin dating; They are NOT cheap! What about the men who want to french kiss and behaving as if she is obligated to give it up (he is no better , snake is trying to beguile someone). A man will even takes a virgin and left her COLD, Now you all call her foolish or call him dwagg! ( He could Treat her with love and respect and make a True woman out of her , train her for she is young and Nurture her, but the man didnt he use and abuse her, NOW THAT’S A SERPENT!

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/D-STYLE/ D-STYLE

    God tells us to not give of our flesh but give our souls to him! God loves us when men turn their backs on us, children become wayward, friends are no longer, this is why we must always trust in the Lord our God and never in man! We are beautifully and wonderfully made and our self-worth and value are not in a man! Ladies, love yourselves and your children and always keep GOD first!! Be Blessed….

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/jaznae24/ jaznae24

    All i have to say is think before u do, dont keep shacking up with a person and they wont commit to u. So whos fault is that, um yours u should know what u want and have self esteem and self respect. A person can only do what u allow them to do. So quit complaining and do something about it demand what u want. womp womp womp

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/jaznae24/ jaznae24

    Plus why have a child 1st with somone that person will be in your life for the rest of your life? Its better to get married then have kids so if it doesnt work out, u can move on and not be tied to them and harboring feelings about them.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/msveevee1/ msveevee1

    I co-sign with D-style!

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/lonnyj/ lonnyj

    SHACK UP WITH DEM HOS AND WHEN DEY WANNA GET MARRIED, BREAK IT OFF AND GET ANOTHA HO TO SHACK UP WITH!

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/bereal34/ bereal34

    95% of the ho’s that read this topic is already a victim of playing house so you cant save these dumb ho’s u r wasting your time.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/DameDivalicious/ DameDivalicious

    I have never play house in my life yet with a man then have a child for him. This man just wanted a baby not a wife! She need to keep herself where she’s at with her child and let him crawl to her and put a ring on it. If he don’t then move on because when 5 to 10 years pass…mark my word he will have a couple of babymommas and kids and wish he did stick with the lady he wanted to have a child with but didn’t wanted to married. That’s karma and this sh*t goes around and around. When will some people ever learn??

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/Mellow313/ Mellow313

    It’s better to play house than to lose a house.I don’t see nothing wrong with shacking up. Ring and Lie-sence (lisence) is a joke. You can be committed to someone and not be married.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/Mellow313/ Mellow313

    I say that cause in the end,the wife and the friends of the court get everything. I guess you can say I’ve had a common -law marriage and it was great. The only thing was that she died years ago.(Shot on GP in Cali). But she was beautiful and the relationship that we had had nothing to do with selfishness and material things. Why get married these days? Everyone seems to have a personal gain for that anyway. I’m a non-traditional man so I know that most people can’t get with this type of living. That’s why I say it’s better to be single and happy than to be married and miserable.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/Mungu1/ Mungu1

    i am not a christian. more of an antichrist. kind of an enemy of jah.

    there are many christians here talking about put a ring on it. i just wanted to share an article for the christians. you do realize that the ring comes from european pagan past. read on:

    “MARRIAGE and the WEDDING RING
    By Aaron M. Shank

    The Scriptures teach us that the marriage Union and relationship was inspired by God, instituted by God, is preserved by God, and can rightly be dissolved only by God. So God created man in his own image . . . ; [one] male and [one] female created he them” (Genesis 1:27). “Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh” (Genesis 2:24). “What therefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder” (Mark 10:9). Any two persons entering into the marriage union should realize that marriage is an institution of God and that the One who designed and authorized marriage has the authority to determine the standards of marriage.

    The Biblical seal for the marriage union is the promise of exclusive, lifelong marital love and fidelity on the part of those entering into marriage. When these promises or vows are made, followed by the pronouncement of husband and wife by an authorized administrator of marriage, each marriage partner becomes a seal on the heart and on the arms of the other partner to seal in the life-preserving qualities of successful marriage, and to seal out the intrusion of love-destroying elements (Song of Solomon 8:6). A certificate of marriage that is signed by witnesses and the administrator of marriage will provide legal proof of the marriage union.

    Marriage promises are made to be kept, not to be broken. Marital love and fidelity are designed to be preserved, not to be lost. The breaking of the marriage union in favor of another marriage partner is so serious that our Lord Jesus said, “Whosoever putteth away his wife, and marrieth another, committeth adultery: and whosoever marrieth her that is put away from her husband committeth adultery” (Luke 16:18). The term committeth means “to continue in a condition or an act.” Thus the remarried state of those who have former marriage partners living is declared by Jesus to be a state of continuous adultery.

    When God’s standards for a beautiful character are upheld, it is not necessary to wear ornamental things for enduring attractiveness and attachment to each other. In fact, the Bible in a number of places condemns the wearing of gold and other items of jewelry. Neither does the Bible make any exceptions for the wearing of gold for symbolic reasons. When the wedding ring is worn because of its supposed or real symbolisms, it opens the way for the wearing of other jewelry, for there are all kinds of rings and pins which are said to have symbolic significance.

    The apostle Peter wrote to Christian women that their beauty should not reside in “that outward adorning of plaiting the hair, and of wearing of gold, or of putting on of [fashionable apparel] but let it be the hidden man of the heart, in that which is not corruptible, even the ornament of a meek and quiet spirit, which is in the sight of God of great price” (1 Peter 3:3, 4). In this same context Peter avers that omitting the wearing of gold and other ornaments, coupled with a life of inner purity on the part of a believing wife, will aid in the winning of an unbelieving husband. The absence of the wedding ring on the part of men and women of integrity and moral purity may also at times provide invaluable opportunities for witnessing to those who may wonder why they do not follow the customs of the world.

    Modest appearance. good behavior, and pure speech do much to motivate attitudes of punty of the sexes toward each other. A Christian woman properly veiled (1 Corinthians 11:1-16), and adorned “in modest apparel, with shamefacedness [reserve and timidity] and sobriety . . . which becometh women professing godliness” (1 Timothy 2:9, 10), will also contribute much to right thinking and right living on the part of both men and women.

    In his booklet Light on the Wedding Ring, Methodist F. B. Annable writes: “Even in these times of looseness a woman with no earthly adornment. emblem, or symbol. but modestly clothed . . . and with the grace of God in her heart, may walk the streets of our land unashamed and unmolested. Her long dress, with sleeves, and decent-shaded hosiery, plus real womanly dignity and deportment, will proclaim everywhere that she belongs only to God and to her husband. Sinners will know a block away that she does not belong to them! Here is genuine protection [more visible than a tiny metal loop, and recommended by a Power] . . . greater than all worldly symbols and customs put together.”

    From secular history we learn that the ancient pagan Romans were probably responsible for beginning the use of engagement and wedding rings. Originally the ring was placed on the third finger of the left hand because of a superstitious belief that a vein from this finger runs directly to the heart. Although this superstitious idea is no longer believed by most people, wedding rings are still placed on the third finger of the left hand by the majority of wearers.

    The roundness of the ring is said to represent eternity and to symbolize endless love and that the couple is forever united in the marriage bond. This is an un-Scriptural symbolism, for the Bible declares that marriage is only for as long as both of the marriage partners live physically (Romans 7:1-3).

    From the Encyclopaedia Britannica (11th edition, Vol.23, p.351) we are told that “this use of the ring which was thus a purely secular origin received ecclesiastical sanction . . . from the eleventh century.” This was the age of great spiritual darkness, when the church was practicing much corruption and many pagan customs, some of which were never dropped by many of the Protestant reformers.

    God warned the children of Israel. “After the doings of the land of Egypt, wherein ye dwelt, shall ye not do: and after the doings of the land of Canaan, whither I bring you, shall ye not do: neither shall ye walk in their ordinances. Ye shall do my judgments, and keep mine ordinances” (Leviticus 18:3, 4).

    The prophet Jeremiah cried out, “Thus saith the Lord, Learn not the way of the heathen . . . For the customs of the people are vain” (Jeremiah 10:2, 3).

    The beloved John calls upon us to “love not the world, neither the things that are in the world. . . . For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world. And the world passeth away, and the lust thereof: but he that doeth the will of God abideth for ever” (1 John 2:15-17). Apostle Paul says, “Be not conformed to this world” (Romans 12:2).

    In summary:

    The wedding ring has no Biblical sanction or sacredness. It finds its origin in paganism, which is against God.

    The wedding ring is an ordinance of the world. God says we are not to keep the world’s ordinances.

    The wedding ring denotes a false symbolism of unending, eternal union. God says that the marriage union is only for time.

    The wedding ring has little protective and permanent value under test. This is proven by the more than one million divorces in America annually, of whom most of the involved persons were doubtless wedding ring wearers.

    The wedding ring is often worn by persons who have already forsaken their lawful marriage partners and are living in what the Bible declares to be an unlawful relationship. In such cases the wedding ring might well constitute a symbol of hypocrisy.

    The wearing of the wedding ring is the first step for many persons in the wearing of all kinds of other Biblically forbidden jewelry.

    The wedding ring is not an essential part of a valid marriage. It is altogether unnecessary when marriage partners are guided by the Bible principles of true love and purity. It is less than worthless when marriage partners are not motivated by the Bible principles of love and purity and are not true to each other in their marriage union. “Nevertheless let every one of you in particular so love his wife [not some other man's wife] even as himself; and the wife see that she reverence her husband [not some other woman's husband]” (Ephesians 5:33).

    Some will protest, “But my preacher says it is all right.” Or “My church has promoted this practice for years. In fact, almost everyone does it.”

    But the most important question is, “What does God say?” No preacher and no church can alter God’s Word.

    Our Lord Jesus Christ “gave himself for our sins, that he might deliver us from this present evil world, according to the will of God and our Father” (Galatians 1:4).

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/phazex_female/ phazex_female

    “Vick is not my son’s father; we got together a couple of months after my son was born – and Vick wants a child with me. He has no children, so this would be his first child. I want to get married before I have another child, but Vick wants to wait another 4 or 5 years before we get married.”

    Ahem. This male does not VALUE you.

    Think about it–you bore ONE kid already….WHERE is his daddy? Was there an offer of marriage THEN?

    What I see at work here is a “copy-cat” or repeat-offender. The first brotha did not make you his queen and this SECOND brotha wants to “wait 4 or 5 years” before (1) he sees that nothing better came along and (2) sure, have my kid, but after THAT I have fulfilled MY end of the bargain. You have put in a bid with him NOW. WHY must you wait another 4-5 years before he decides that you’re WORTHY and even more insulting? Have his kid BEFORE then?

    G/friend? Drop this loser like the bad habit he’s going to be become. Good luck–and good riddance with this male. You CAN do “better.”

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/felicebois/ felicebois

    Leave him, if he wants to play house. Somebody better who is sincerely ready for family life will build a real life with you. They won’t waste your time. Besides, read between the lines: any man that brings a mess in your household and don’t realize he is a mess, then that’s a real big problem you have adopted.
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  • http://www.blackplanet.com/blackbizman2008/ blackbizman2008

    Both her and Vick need to talk about what’s keeping him from wanting to get married now. He may just not feel comfortable about talking about it, so she has to make him feel comfort about it. also, some guys may not be too expressive, but it isn’t easy to take that extra step and get married to a woman who also has another man she had a child with who has the right to come around. Does the child’s father make Vick feel uncomfortable? Does she still have feelings for ol’ dude? Some men can handle this situation, but some can’t. Maybe Vick needs more time to see how things with the father turn out down the stretch. More info is needed before we can clearly say Vick does not value her or wants to commit. If there were no child from a previous relationship involved, this would be easy.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/sugarfoot1967/ sugarfoot1967

    Sweetie… If he can’t give u his name…then u shouldn’t give him a child. I stayed with a man 10yrs becuz I loved him and I wanted to have his childen but after we had been engaged for 8yrs out of 10 and he still couldn’t give me his name I just said NO!!! If I can’t have your name then I can’t have your children. Take care of YOU and your child.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/nikkiedime/ nikkiedime

    Stop playing and grow the hell up…………………..

    http://bit.ly/Nik10K

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/MS_A_08/ MS_A_08

    FUCC THAT. FIRST OF ALL. WHAT THE HELL ARE U DOING LOOKING FOR LOVE WITH A NEWBORN. IF THEY BEEN TOGETHER THREE YEARS, THAT MEANS HER SON HAD TO BE NO MORE THAN 5 MONTHS. BUT IT IS ADMIRABLE THAT HE LOVES HER SON, AND U DO NOT HAVE TO BE MARRIED TO HAVE SOMEONE’S CHILD, BUT SHE IS TAKING A SMART ROUTE BECAUSE SHE WANTS SECURITY. SHE ISNT TRYING TO HAVE HIS CHILD, NOT HAVING HIS NAME, WHENEVER HE DECIDES TO SAY F**K HER, HE CAN KICK HER ASS OUT. SORRY BUT HE ISNT GOING TO MARRY HER. i KEEP THAT S**T TOO REAL. I CAN SEE IF THEY BEEN TOGETHER A YEAR, BUT THREE YEARS?! AND HE WANTS U TO HAVE HIS CHILD AND MOVE IN, BUT HASNT EVEN PROPOSED? NO, FUCC ALL OF THAT. HE IS GETTING THE MILK FOR FREE SO WHY BUY THE COW AND THE EXTRA BAGGAGE? IT WILL TAKE HER LEAVING HIM AND PUTTING HIM THROUGH SOME S**T AND IF HE REALLY LOVES HER AND “CANT LIVE WITHOUT HER” THEN HE WILL FINALLY PROPOSE AFTER THREE DAMN YEARS. BUT MOST LIKELY THATS NOT HIS AGENDA AND IT AINT GOT S**T TO DO WITH HIM NOT BEING COMFY WITH MARRIAGE. HE IS GETTING IT ALL SO HE IS FEELING “WHATS THE POINT OF GETTING MARRIED”…PLAYING HOUSE MY ASS

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/MS_A_08/ MS_A_08

    1SEXELLENTGAL. I HOPE I SPELLED IT RIGHT, GIRL THATS RIGHT SOMEBODY NEED TO BEAT THAT DRUM. HIS ASS AINT GONNA MARRY HER. PPL NEED TO FACE THE FACTS. SHE HAS LOST THREE YEARS SHE CANNOT TAKE BACK

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/crystalclearNY/ crystalclearNY

    Hmmm…This guy sounds like he’s trying to have his cake and eat it too…As in, wanting to get his girlfriend pregnant but keeping his options open. She might try tellling him that she wasnt happy with the outcome of having a child without marriage after what happened with her 1st baby father, and ask him why he wants to apply pressure to her now for a baby, yet doesnt want to commit…The two should go hand in hand…I think this guy sounds like he’s trying to keep his “options” open…and perhaps they culd try setting a timetable for both events…Instead of five years to get married and settle down and have more children, two or three years…meet each other halfway…

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/crystalclearNY/ crystalclearNY

    Hmmm…Now, does Mungu1 really think that anybody read that long, boring dissertation on the significance of the wedding Ring in its endlessly, yawningly long entirety? IF so, then run for the hills,brethren…Cause that guy is seriously deluded…I almost fell asleep reading it…My eyeballs started to glaze over…but he’s a pretty good substitute sleeping pill…

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