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Nearly a decade ago, a fraternity brother of mine bitterly confessed that he could not deal with black women. He is African-American by way of the Caribbean. Although I couldn’t say I hadn’t heard this sentiment prior to him stating it, I was intrigued to hear it out loud from someone so close to me.

This same man went on to declare that black women simply had too much attitude – on the bus, at work, in any given situation – just difficult and mean without cause or reason, especially the ugly ones.

A few years later he married a brown-skinned Dominican woman.

I’ve watched many black boys like me grow into men who exclusively date and many times marry whites, Latinos and other ethnicities that are not classically considered “black.” Some have been from the athlete set who are in many instances quietly “groomed” to pursue interracial relationships. Some have been artists who in their pursuit of life without restrictions refuse to be “tied down” to race and culture. But many have been outcasts – those in school who weren’t cool or cute enough, the kind that may have been a little on the chubby side, the ones who weren’t even considered when it came time to go to dances, parties or anything else social. I presume many in this last group might feel they had the last laugh considering the ongoing conversation African American women have today regarding the dearth of available “good black men.”

I was a member of the outcast set. Throughout most of my high school career, during the height of the eighties, I rocked a lopsided ‘fro and Coke-bottle glasses. I had crooked teeth which I hid from everyone by rarely smiling. All of this was attached to a slim body devoid of muscles. Be it snickers shared amongst friends or never being asked to any dances, the sisters made their distaste for me loud and clear.

Maturity has been kind to me. I shed most of my awkwardness as I grew up and as a Chicagoan who immersed myself completely in New York City life after grad school, I gained a savvy that allowed me to reinvent myself from the ground up. I’m happy to say this upgraded me had no axe to grind, no revenge to seek, no penalty to levy, nor any white women to flaunt in the face of my sisters. From my mother to my wife, I’ve never stopped loving the women I’ve always loved: black women…

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  • http://www.blackplanet.com/tmf1582/ tmf1582

    Wow…great, thought provoking post. Thanks so much for your candor! There are loads of issues packed in here. For a Black man to say he won’t date within his race because black women have “attitude” is beyond disappointing…it’s cowardice. For a Black man to admit this is not so much a reflection of Black womanhood, because Black women are not a monolith. Rather, it’s a reflection of the individual who chooses to react in such a drastic, almost self-loathing, prejudicial way. Yes, certainly some Black women have attitudes, but then again who doesn’t? The real question Black men who refuse to date Black women should ask themselves is what am I really afraid of? The problem lies within, not without.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/Grad_Studnt/ Grad_Studnt

    It takes a special kind of man to deal with some of these winches. LOL

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/GAmale37/ GAmale37

    It’s like this! Women, no matter the color, are empowered by that thing between their legs. Haven’t you heard the phrase: “they use what they got, to get what they want”. Many times we won’t stand up and be a man! Of course they will run over you if you let them! Anybody will! This ain’t got nothing to do with violence. Just about having a “backbone”! If one chick don’t treat you right, move on to another! Ain’t no guarantee the white, Latino, or other female is going to do any better. Black women may act up sometimes, but I personally think that they are the lesser of the evils!

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/WestsideCartelAtl85/ WestsideCartelAtl85

    Good article. I met plenty of non Black women with attitudes at my college. It’s more social brainwashing that non Black women are submissive. I think Black men who date non Black women exclusively have identity issues. They the main ones who hate when I have bad azz sista on my arm. I use to get picked on when I was growing up, mostly by the females. But I know all Black women aren’t the same. I’ll always love and cherish Black women forever and a day.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/mywua/ mywua

    How can any man of color not have love for his sister/mother….a women with the same skin color dealing with the same issues as you are. I really thing some or most of us need to look within and start loving ourselves more. We as black ppl should see if we don’t love ourselves no one else will. There is no guarantees that any women of any color will love or understand you any better than your own kind.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/mywua/ mywua

    How can any man of color not have love for his sister/mother….a women with the same skin color dealing with the same issues as you are. I really thing some or most of us need to look within and start loving ourselves more. We as black ppl should see if we don’t love ourselves no one else will. There is no guarantees that any women of any color will love or understand you any better than your own kind. Some sisters can be tough but I think they are worth the time. I love my peoples!!!!

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/Anthropological/ Anthropological

    Since when does having a bad attitude and being “a strong woman” mean the same thing?
    In fact would posit that a bad attitude means you are a WEAK woman!
    I dont want to be involved with anyone with a bad attitude…. a girlfriend, a coworker, a family member….
    I have dated many types of women in my life, but i have never seen the unabashed rancor toward black men as with black women…. I say black men because when you see black women with white men there is no anger… strange…

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/Anthropological/ Anthropological

    @ TMF1582
    Cowardice????
    are you kidding? Choosing to not have to deal with someone who is combative and angry all the time is the mark of a coward?
    I haven’t dated a black woman in over a decade and I have to tell you… I have have not have to deal with those issues AT ALL….
    I don’t hate black women, my daughter will be a black woman… but I am just not going to be romantically involved with an attitudinal angry woman!

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/ithequeen/ ithequeen

    I am tired of people acting like we are not suppose to have any attitude…Hell, we have been raped by the master, kept his house, kept his land, and breast fed his babies..wtf do you think we as African women should act like with this history.

    Thank you Brother for saying out loud what most are afraid to even think.

    Why is it that people think you are a racist for loving your own African men?

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/svonelove/ svonelove

    Stereotypes…Although some of our sisters are over the top, it is totally ignorant to believe that all black women are the same, perhaps it is your choices along with what you’re bringing to the relationship. I believe you should date/marry whomever is pleasing to you, but don’t say you prefer other races because all black women have bad attitudes, that just isn’t true. It’s like black women saying they don’t want a black man because all black men are dogs, just isn’t true…

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/tangerine79/ tangerine79

    Lord, have mercy black people please get it together and take the time to learn about each other before making judgements. I’m sick and tired of black women being cast into this angry, b***hy role because first it so far from the truth, I know way too many passive black women and second even it were true we have reason to be. Too many black women are raising families alone, paying the bills alone, working two jobs alone, going to school functions alone, not to mention listening to and watching our men degrade us, cheat on us, lie to us, give us HIV, take us for granted, in and out of the prison system , killing each other over nonsense and not taking care of their responsibilities and thats on top of living in a country where the issues black women face daily are ignored. When black women go missing does anyone care, when black women are beaten and raped I rarely hear about it on the news. We struggle to hold it together daily for ourselves and our families all too often we do this on our own if you ask me thats reason enough to be angry. And as a mental health professional I know that anger is often a mask of depression and frequently its no more than a shield used to protect from being hurt any further so this wall is put up but underneath is someone who is very broken inside. So instead of judging lets take the time out to get to know each other and listen to what your sisters have gone through that makes them so angry and be the one who helps put them back togther.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/alpha111906/ alpha111906

    Oh I love this topic. Black women, if you don’t think you have attitude…try dating outside your race…see what that man has to say about you…try it once…you will be surprised.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/alpha111906/ alpha111906

    to add, I have dated of many different races…ethnicities..etc. I have dated many black women. I have only had a couple bad experiences with black women…I didn’t generalize…but it didn’t help.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/tangerine79/ tangerine79

    anthropological

    you seem like you may have some sense but obviously not enough. think about all of the issues black women face that women of other races do not. according to statistics black women have the highest percentage of new cases of HIV, black women are subject to racism and sexism in the workplace, in the community, in the classroom, in the entertainment industry, and in society in general. the majority of black women are raising our children alone. health studies suggest that black women are not provided the same quality of healthcare. on television too often black women are portrayed as aggressive, desperate, lonely, angry, w**rish or not portrayed at all. black women are going to school, holding down jobs, paying the rent, car note, day care, studen loans, taking care of friends and family, rarely making time to take care of our own needs all by ourselves. we need help from our brothers not hurtful comments.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/MEGAHOTT911/ MEGAHOTT911

    I don’t give a f**k how much my sista’s put me threw it! I love em to death! And I wouldn’t trade yall for the world!

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/blackhardbody01/ blackhardbody01

    It’s always nice to see the brothers not black men, and there’s a difference, cater to the sistas(one is akin to a boy another a simple man). Black women do have an attitude, whether it’s because of history, circ**stance or “all the issues” they’ve dealt with it, I don’t care. I don’t care for excuses either. Black men aren’t allowed them and neither should black women be given them. I have a black mother, black woman and young black daughter and I pray that my daugther possesses none of the attitude I’ve seen most black women wield. It’s detrimental to the community, black relationships and to black women themselves. I will always ONLY deal with black women, but just like their men they have centuries old baggage to shed before they can hope to raise a community ready to compete with society at large.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/Kris1226/ Kris1226

    woooo go him! lmfao thats what im talkin bout

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/MAXAMIL1/ MAXAMIL1

    I just tell her. You run nothing around here but your mouth. I don’t let the lip service and attitude bother me .Because you can’t have a d!ck measuring contest with me and you don’t.
    If you don’t like what I doing there is the door. I feel if a woman sees she can scare or control you with all the attitude , she will keep on doing it . If she see your not going for it ..The attitude comes out a lot less . And if it does continue with bothers locked up, married down low or out of the closet gay.
    That about 20-25 sista to 1 brotha. No need to deal with the attitude .Find another one.
    My mom had that hard core attitude . My dad just looked at her crazy and laugh . So I just let her talk your mouth is programed to say anything.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/Arrielle2007/ Arrielle2007

    Aint nothing like a strong black man who can handle his business in every aspect.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/Luven-U/ Luven-U

    omg. i really appreciate this and wish i seen things like this more often thankyou for making my day.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/Sexy_Mami_inc/ Sexy_Mami_inc

    I just want to say thank you for this. I hear so many black men say the exact same thing and its sad when you can treat a woman of another race so much better than a woman of your own race to which you came from and were raised.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/Siempre_loca/ Siempre_loca

    I first want to make clear, if you can’t tell by my picture, that I am not Black, or African American, I am Puerto Rican, so my roots do lie in Africa. However, I was raised among mainly latinos and black people in the projects of NYC and I’ve always had a love for my minorities. When I moved down to the DC metro area I noticed a lot of black men with white women and I too, heard many of them say it was because of the attitude. But growing up where I did and seeing, and appreciating the beauty in color I never could understand that reason. The majority of my friends are black and I wouldnt have it any other way. Black women are strong, independent, driven and last but not least Beautiful and only a STRONG black man can really appreciate what that type of woman has to offer.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/demoshe/ demoshe

    I hate the attitude and drama!!.. I cant bring home to my Parents a woman who is loud mouthed and cant act like a lady.. I can date any kind of woman but cant bring crazy loud attitude women home because they would scare my humble African parents .. No offense to anyone, I just like a woman who acts like a woman..

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/BlackCasper2001/ BlackCasper2001

    A women with too much attitude of any ethnicity is a definite turnoff in my book.

    -N.S. Ugezene, author of Shaun Pascal-

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/demoshe/ demoshe

    The reason why Black men are disrespected by most black women is because idiotic men dont go for respectable humble ladies.. they look for Big Booty freaks!. Do you know what a booty is for those men who look for Big Booty chics?.. its toilet..lol
    Thats why I get offended when I see a woman taking a picture showing their asses.. It looks like they are mooning me, and trying to make me look like I am stupid! I love a respectable woman.. they do not necessarily have to be educated, but they need to act like grow intelligent humble ( no attitude)women!

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/greywolf5/ greywolf5

    Hmmm..Years ago my son came to me and asked “Dad tell me about girls” I cant tell you how important this was because it gave me a chance to maybe undo some of the madness I’d done based upon what older men had told me when I asked that very same question. So I told him to “be a friend” “learn to listen”, “don’t be a hound”, “be faithful” etc. 4 yrs later he came to me and said “Dad that advice you gave me was bad advice”…Mind you this is the same guy I taught how to hook off the jab, ride a bike an all of that. He said “that if you act like that you get treated like a friend…whereas the bad guys get the girls”..I remember learning that lesson too. From what I’ve noticed, men long to have peace while women long to have security…The Bible says that “it is better to live in a wasteland than to live with an argumentative woman”…Opinionated? I love it! Assertive? No problem! Strong? Wouldn’t have it any other way! Educated? She better be! Independent? I should hope so! But angry, suspicious, male bashing, jealous, insecure, vindictive, head rolling finger poppin and cussin? She looks better goin in the opposite direction…No man who values his sanity wants to pay ex-lover tax for the lousy choices you made in the past. No man who wants to live in peace wants to be hooked up with someone who’s a bottomless pit of unrequited love and sorrow…No man who values his peace will align himself with someone who deep down inside doesn’t really like men..Funny how there’s a word for men who don’t like women..But I’ve yet to find one for women who don’t like men…

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/SWANKness/ SWANKness

    i believe if we as women acted like it, we’d get more respect..it’s hard for a man to respect a woman, no matter her attitude because of the images they’ve seen…how many profiles can you go through and see every body part of a woman? we’ve stop leaving things to the imagination..as a young black woman i dont understand the black girl is the ho, but the white girl is wifey material..and men need to look past the beauty && see whats really deep in there, no matter the shade of color..because when it comes down to it, we will all bust the windows out your car lol

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/Harvin86/ Harvin86

    I have to admit, the attitude of a blk women can be very sexy at times, however, other times its just uncalled for. I too love the attitude of a blk woman and I have been a gentleman most of my life and kind hearted. Also, throughout my life most of the ppl whose treated me like an a*****e when I didn’t deserve to be treated like one, was blk women. Some family, friends, associates and complete strangers. So as I got older I changed my ways and started acting like an a*****e and that attitude got me more respect than I had hoped for. I mean, seriously, I dont know many blk women that care to hang with other blk women.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/supasweet71/ supasweet71

    It amazes me to hear black men refer to black women as if they aren’t a part of who we are. You all are us. You came from us and your daughters will be in that very same category you speak negatively about. I don’t know where we as a people went wrong but when I was growing up, I, nor any of my friend’s fathers were helping to raise us. My mother like most had to do it all. Work, feed her family, provide all necessaties to keep her household functioning and in tact. Our moms held it down and prepared their daughters to do the same. That is where the frustration, anger and defensive behavior comes. We love our black men …always have and trust me when i say most of us would love nothing more than to let our guards down and let our brothers take their place as the head of our households.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/SnapshotNTime/ SnapshotNTime

    An attitude is a characteristic of all women. Color has nothing to do with it. It is just the perception of it only being in Black women. But this is the same black woman that stands by her man no matter what. Do you see the correlation? Maybe there is a reason for the attitude…If it was a woman of a different ethnicity that went through the same thing wouldn’t we expect her “attitude” to be the same? Give the black man an excuse for his attitude (drugs, father not present, rough environment, etc.), but not the black woman (cheating mates, father not present, no positive female in her life, tired of a no good man). Thats not fair.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/txgirl_rider/ txgirl_rider

    If you can’t stand the heat ..go find you a big white girl!!!

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/Cocoasecrets/ Cocoasecrets

    This is a nice posting. I can honestly say though Im more attracted to black me, Im open to date any race!

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/swaggasorite88/ swaggasorite88

    I wasnt even gonna comment on this subject, but i juss had to commend supasweet71 for hitting the nail on the head with this one! Black men act intimidated by our strength and independent attitude but if we, as black women, left it all up to them…we wouldnt exist!!! Black women has been holdin it down ever since I can remember!!! Since I have been bought into this world! My mother has busted her ass for over 21yrs and is still doin it today with Lupus diease. I have seen black women do it with cancer,AIDS, diabetes, drug addictions, alcohol abuse and in abusive relationships, with nothing and no one ESPECIALLY A BLACK MAN, standing up to the plate. So yeah, I got an attitude cuz Black men got some nerve, they should understand,better than anyone else where this attitude comes from and be able to handle it because WE ARE HERE FOR YOU! NOT a white man, NOT a Latino, but I’m tellin you now, you black men don’t stand up to the plate, YOU WILL miss out on your PHENOMENAL BLACK WOMAN

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/alex_65_98/ alex_65_98

    THE SISTA WITH AN ATTITUDE…HMMM..irrational,snappy,introverted,confrontational, belligerent and refusal to abide by anyones rules…yeah sista’s, that’s a great role model of behavior for your kids to emulate, no wonder I’m constantly volunteering at the schools to work with our young black kids who can’t perform well in school because they are too busy trying to emulate “Mama” and how she alway’s act at home, at work, and even in restaurants. Yeah sista’s..give yourself a big pat on the back because as a result, many of the Sista’s with “attitude” are single baby momma’s who dont have good connections with their families and many of them act that way because they have been abused or let a bad man take advantage of them and now they hate the world. If you are a SWA(Sista wit an Attitude) and you got deep pockets,you got the latest dildo in your dresser draw at home, you got your own big house, nice car, and you are on top in the Corporate world and “munchin carpet” at least twice a week..I aint mad at cha, but if yo attitude has resulted in you getting fired from your job and folks don’t want to be around you and you still :shakin it to make it” at the club cause you need yo bills paid..then you need to stop because it portray’s an ignorant black woman who just adds to the black female streotype.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/_chiick/ _chiick

    whatever. one of the few who don’t look down on black women as less than and not worth two cents. get it from others and from our own race, we’re slowly being drummed out of society.

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