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NO!!!

but he does have a right to be in that child life for as long as he lives!!!

stupid. before nas and kelis had there kid and more than likeley at the delivery room, they were cool.so we can use them as an example. and even if they were not cool, it does not matter. a man should be there. women love to come at men like we a re sperm doners. get the fuk outta here with that bulls**t. a broad could die at the delivery table pushin that baby out , by then the beef would not matter.

I say yes and even if they are having problems they should leave them at the door your bringing a life into this world and it’s a beautiful thing

Yes he does. When women start making babies by themselves they can start dictating things like this. That initial moment when a baby is born is a beautiful thing that both parents should experience. And it doesn’t matter what happens between the man and the woman, but that stuff aside because it’s about the child forging a bond with both parents.

no, because the father is not the patient. Patients have the right to decide what is going on in that room. And all the men need to have a reality check in here that think its their right! lol
its not your right. I CHOSE to have my husband in the room with me because he HELPED me. If the father of the child only adds stress to the situation then he is putting the child and the mother at serious medical risks. childbirth aint no joke! women and their babies could die from that ish! Men need to have more respect for women and their bodies. it is not your right at all. Thats why i love my husband because he respects me and loves me and treats me like i deserve to be treated. I could not imagine being married to some of yall disrespectful men out there.

ok seeing how the western world is now where it’s very typical for a man to be sitting there staring at the baby being pushed out into the world and the divorce rate has only skyrocketed since men began sitting through labor and delivery and the number of single parent households is not decreasing at all, then id say no. it’s safe to say having the husband or father of the child there has nothing to do w/ forming a bond. it does not make them head over heels in love for eternity. it likely does the opposite if they’d really open up and be honest.

it’s simply for spectating on the man’s part. if the woman feels comfortable being part of a spectator sport, go ahead. if she doesn’t want him around or doesn’t want any man in there being fascinated and amazed at something they can view online 24/7, then no, leave them in the waiting area. i did!

Kashi101, I appreciate the statistical correlation between fathers not being in the room during the birth of their child and the divorce rate. However, there is no direct correlation between those to factors, just mere variables thrown together. The fact of the matter is that the father does deserve to be there not because of the mother, but because of the child. If it is his, he legally has the same rights as the mother including health care decisions and monitoring the child’s health. I know this conflicts with Hershy11′s comments, I know. But at some point when dealing with children, it’s not about YOU, the mother. Its about the child. If you want someone else in there, you can to help YOU. However the father should also be allowed access if merely to greet his child coming into the world.

The father doesn’t have the right. The mother is the patient and there are HIPPA laws protecting her. If there is any endangerment to the child, the clinician can notify the father immediately and the latter will have input into the appropriate course of action to take so as long as it doesn’t jeopardize the mother because then it boils down to legal and ethical issues that are probably over most of our heads.

Frankly, if I wasn’t with the father–especially a Yutz like Tiki Barber–I’d refuse him access as well.

@hera12,
Which Hippa laws, specifically? So if the father has this ‘patient’, as his dependent, on his insurance, what stops him from being present when that dependent (patient) is having services done, under his plan, which he pays for again? I don’t know, so please enlighten me.
I believe a man should have the right to be there, but out of respect, if she doesn’t want him there, and it is proven to complicate her delivery, then he should not be there. But there should be no official laws stating that he can’t be there, and if someone wants some laws, then fine, then that woman should waive the RIGHT to have him pay child support, and sign the birth certificates and all that. If you want to introduce laws to regulate humans, fine, rejection of the man, of this great moment, should mean you don’t deserve child support, but out of respect, he can give it. Really, if you people feel there should be laws and rights, for such an event, then let’s really get extreme

UNLESS the father is a DANGER to the mother or child in anyway,im going to have to say YES he does have a right to be there.After all,it took HIM to make the BABY IN THE FIRST PLACE.What ever happened to the MOTHER and FATHER setting aside their petty differences to WELCOME something so PRECIOUS that they made into the world.You are only going to see that child come into the world ONE TIME.BOTH parents should be there.NOW BEING PARENTS TODAY,THATS ANOTHER STORY.But regardless,THE FATHER SHOULD BE THERE AND IF YOU HAVE TO WORK OUT ANY SITUATIONS as long as he isnt DANGEROUS,DO IT AFTER THE CHILD COMES INTO THE WORLD.BUT ANY SITUATION SHOULD OF BEEN WORKED OUT WAY BEFORE THE BABY ENTERED THE WORLD ANYWAY.sheesh…..

And for some REAL MEN,seeing their wives,or woman carry and bring there child into the world gives them a better appreciation of their women and all women for witnessing that MIRACLE.like I said SOME MEN…So for some ,it has the adverse effect and actually BRINGS THE COUPLE CLOSER..BUT YOU HAVE TO BE ON A HIGHER LEVEL TO UNDERSTAND AND COMPREHEND THIS….

It really is ridiculously selfish for any man to Neglect/abuse/abandon/ignore/hurt or emotionally damage the mother of their child while pregnant, and then expect to be rewarded in the end for their vicious,coldly indifferent behavior by having her give in to his wishes to view the birth. There are many reasons why a mother has the right to say No…Because bottom line, if that “Dad” was allowed into the delivery room without her permission, and there is bad blood between them for whatever reason, the effect of an angry, overly emotional encounter DURING CHILDBIRTH could put the mothers health in jeopardy and the child being born. What if the father is an abuser? Blacks her eyes? Chokes her out? Should she be forced to see this persons face hovering above her as she is in her most vulnerable, exposed, vulnerable position of her life? Not only is it possible for the mother to die (doctors tell women each time they give birth that they have a 50% chance of dying on the delivery table even during the most “normal” of circ**stances,so not only would the mother be in danger, but the baby being born, as well…It is a well doc**ented fact that when a woman is in a high state of anxiety while pregnant, the fetus also reacts to those physiological stress factors….With increased heartrate, an increase in blood pressure (which can be fatal on the delivery table) and increased kicks and turns inside the belly, which could result in the umbilical cord being wrapped around the childs neck during birth or a breech birth, which can kill the mother. Ask any doctor and he will verify these factors. With all those high risk factors at stake, they will never let a Man in the delivery room without the patients permission…because if something happened to the mother or child, the hospital could get the s**t sued out of them, and rightfully so. Instead of worrying about this s**t, Men need to get their priorities straight and focus on catering to their womans pregnancy…and beyond a doubt not one would be barred from the delivery…They would be welcomed with open arms, becuase that is the most frightening time of a womans Life…but then, how would a Guy know…These dumbasses spend their time violating their women while they are pregnant…abandoning them, cheating on them, giving them STD’s, arguing with them and beating them and other crazy s**t…and then expect to be welcomed with open arms! As a man, ask yourself would you want to see the face of a person whom you despise, feel abandoned by, fear, hate or dont trust to have your best interests at heart, standing beside you while you are about to have open heart surgery? Hell No you wouldn’t…and so it goes On…Another f**ked up ghetto Mess…

He better be there….23 of those chromosomes are his…

It’s on a case by case matter. Childbirth can be dangerous if the man being there is adding stress to the woman it could possible kill her, the baby or both. It’s ultimately her choice and like someone said she is the patient and if she doesn’t want him there you can best believe the hospital will make him leave. Men if you’ve done something to anger her and she doesn’t want you there stop thinking about yourselves because it’s not about you it’s about her delivering your HEALTHY BABY.

And men need to stop this dumbass philosophy that you can pick and choose which events and responsibilities you want to be responsible for with your child…WTF is that…the old slave mentality s**t popping up yet again? “I want to be there for the birth, but not for any other responsibilites…” Men always pull out that old bulls**t battlecry about “Im being treated like a sperm donor…” Well, then ACT LIKE A REAL FATHER BEFORE THE BABY IS BORN AND YOU WILL BE TREATED LIKE ONE DURING AND AFTER THE BIRTH TOO…What, is that too hard for the average man to do…Check your priorities throughout your womans pregnancy, dont just try to get focused on the child when the birth is at hand, but ignore or abandon them completely before (and usually after the birth too)…Who the hell is teaching these Ken Dolls how to think…Not their own fathers, thats for Sure! Most of them have disappeared too…Its intergenerational, as usual…

hera12, in my work with HIPAA over the past 6 years, I have yet to see that states the father cannot witness the birth of his child as at that point there’s an overlap. I don’t think some understand that at birth, there are 2 patients as shown in the hospital paperwork. The man doesn’t have to be there the whole time of labor being that it can be a 12 hour process. He should be allowed in and notified when the baby is crowning so he can see HIS child. I agree that if there are certain situations where the father maybe shouldn’t be in the room such as if he has made a claim to hurt the baby or mother. Otherwise, the mother does not have sole authority over their child.

crystalclearNY, sounds like you’ve been hurt a little bit. But the problem seems to be in a lot of instances that the mother wants to determine what is a good father or bad father, want to make the sole decision for the child, and/or plainly feels its theirs for whatever reason. It’s not just yours. It takes two of you to make the baby so don’t just bypass that after the baby is here. Because its widely accepted that women are generally less logical than men and more emotional, then it appears you definitely need equal assistance in making decisions in the best interest of the child. This is exampled in the comments made by crystalclearNY. There is no statistical evidence shown but yet she is yelling about the men needing to be with the woman during the 9 months leading to birth. I’m pretty sure she doesn’t know what is AVERAGE or what an AVERAGE man would do. As for the 50% chance of a woman dying while giving birth…you may want to do your research as less than 1% of mothers die while giving birth. If every woman has a 50/50 chance, how can less than 1% actually die? I guess that logic kicking in. Now, I fully agree the father should be around and helpful to the woman during the entire pregnancy, it’s not the determining factor in seeing their child at birth.

In summary, it amazes me that a lot women want equality in pay, status, etc but when it comes to a child, they want to eliminate that equality with the man. I applaud the women who are doing the right thing and the child will be rewarded.

To:Fubustyles…Please, dont misquote me. I said that “doctors tell women that they have a 50% chance of dying during childbirth”…This is what my doctor told me during all of my pregnancies, and if it has only actually occurred 1% of the time, is irrelevant. Thats what my doctor told me, so complain to him if you dont agree…Furthermore, who says that the father not being around and being helpful to his woman during the pregnancy should not be a determining factor? Only MEN, thats who…After you go through the fire of giving birth, then you can tell me hwo you feel about it, cause trust me…That type of pain requires a helpful, steady, trustworthy hand besides you to rely on…and if a man is helpful to his woman, she will definitely want him there…So stop whining about the aftermath, and deal with the true problem…Men want to pick and choose what responsibilties they should be held accountable for, and of course, choose the easiest parts (standing to the side watching the baby being born, while the mother does all the work). That is a priviledge to witness Life coming into the world, and no man has ever been barred who was devoted to his woman’s needs during her pregnancy. Thats like robbing somebody, and then being mad when they dont invite you to a privileged event…It falls under the category of too, bad, so sad, get your s**t together and do it right then next time…Men dont give a damn about abandoning their respponsibilties before and after birth, so dont care about facing one of the harsh realities involved with that kind of selfish behavior, as a consequence. Do right, and be treated right..do wrong, and be treated that way, too. F**k those whiny, dysfunctional, disrespectful, abandoning LOSERS! In fact, teach your own sons not to drag their woman through the mud while pregnant…or they might not see their offspring born either! Women are tired of accepting men’s continual bad behaviors, while always being expected to suffer in silence and endure. Thats why this s**t is an epidemic now…

By the way…The mother definitely does not have sole responsibility over the child…but she does have sole responsibility over the birth! Want to know why many women wind up feeling like they DO have sole responsibilty over making the decisions regarding the birth? BECAUSE THE FATHER HAS USUALLY BEEN MISSING IN ACTION SINCE EMPREGNATING HER, OR DROPPING IN AND OUT OF THE PICTURE LIKE HE ISNT THE DAD AT ALL! Stop being too busy chasing other ass, hanging out with the boys, playing video games, goign to clubs, drinking, drugging, or just plain ignoring her during her time of need, and she wont forget or bar you, for sure! Guys want to show up an hour before the birth, talking about their “rights” all of a sudden. What about the rights of the child to a safe, healthy delivery into the world? What about their responsibilties to help the woman they empregnanted through her pregnancy? What should a woman do? Say, Oh sure baby, you dogged me out the whole nine months, treated me like s**t, cheated on me, gave me an STD/whatever…but I want you in there with me holding my hand, cause I know you’re trustworthy enough to be by my side with this child for the next 18 years? Here’s a brand new idea…STOP MAKING BABIES THAT YOU ARENT INTERESTED IN FULLY TAKING CARE OF, FROM THE VERY FIRST DAY THAT YOU SQUIRT IN YOUR WOMAN AND SHE BECOMES PREGNANT! FROM DAY ONE! IF YOU CANT DO THAT, THEN STOP F**KING WHINING ABOUT THE CONSEQUENCES!

Bottom Line, Fellas…If you are indifferent and selfish to your womans needs while she is pregant with Your Child…Dont be surprised if she becomes indifferent to your need to see the child being born…There are consequences to not doing the right thing after getting a woman pregnant, and so far the hospitals and courts have not been willing to challenge or change a persons indisputable right to privacy while on the operating table…Like it or not, that wont be changing, cause hopitals are far too scared of being SUED…Suck it up, if you were uncaring enough about the pregnancy to not be there the whole nine months for Bulls–t reasons! (unless you are deployed overseas, or working hard to provide for your new family)…Other than that, nobody cares what these deadbeat abandoning Losers think…

@crystalclearny…..”In fact, teach your own sons not to drag their woman through the mud while pregnant…or they might not see their offspring born either! Women are tired of accepting men’s continual bad behaviors, while always being expected to suffer in silence and endure. Thats why this s**t is an epidemic now…”

I do understand what you are saying about males not being their for the duration of the pregnancy.You know what,your right about that.It shouldnt be that the woman has to go through 9 months without the emotional,physical,financial,spiritual support of her partner that helped to make that wonderful gift thats half his.Its a shared experience and alot of males dont understand how important it is to be around the woman during this time.Its extremely important.Just as the baby can hear its mothers voice,it can also hear its fathers voice.Why wouldnt a man not want to be around that?I will say,I would think that any real MAN would want to keep a very close eye on his WOMAN to ensure that shes comfortable,shes being safe,getting what she needs,getting assistance,meaning the little things to help her out around the house,in public,rubbing her feet,getting in and out of cars etc.I would think that the man would be PROUD TO BE BY HER side.After all,its his baby.Its the biggest gift that a woman can ever give a man.To enure his bloodline.Its selfish for a man to not take care of the woman thats carrying his gift to the world.A baby isnt a doll.

But they are not there and its a huge EPIDEMIC LIKE YOU SAID.I feel it goes back to looking at the character of a man and what he believes and stands for before procreating with someone.For this very reason you speak of.Not rushing into relationships with out first exploring the crucial steps in order in a relationship to insure a better understanding and chance of success between the two for a lifetime. And im not going to say that women are always innocent because this isnt the case either..ITS THE RESPONSIBILITY OF BOTH THE WOMAN AND MAN TO GIVE THAT CHILD WHO DIDNT ASK TO BE HERE A FIGHTING CHANCE OF STABILITY.AND STABILITY STARTS WITH WHAT KIND OF RELATIONSHIP YOU HAVE BEFORE A BABY.STABILITY ALSO MEANING CALM AND PEACE,LOVE,COMMUNICATION,SUPPORT BETWEEN THE BOTH OF YOU FIRST.Having a baby with someone SHOULD BE THOUGHT OUT CAREFULLY WITH WHO YOU DECIDE TO HAVE THAT BABY WITH.AND BEFORE THAT,THEIR ARE THINGS THAT US WOMEN HAVE TO LOOK FOR IN A MAN TO MAKE SURE THAT HE IS THE KIND OF MAN THAT WILL STAY BY HIS WOMAN’S SIDE FOR LIFE. AND IT DAMN SURE ISNT WHAT KIND OF CAR HES DRIVING,HOUSE HE HAS,HOW GOOD LOOKING HE IS all the superficial nonsense.cause if so,you end up like THE DREAM AND CHRISTINA….AND their are to many of those running around.

WE HAVE to start looking at the character strength in MEN ,what they stand for,how they TREAT,SPEAK ABOUT,DEAL WITH WOMEN AS A WHOLE.It all matters when PROCREATING…Its one of the reasons I dont have any children yet.GOD willing.We have to wait,those of us men and women who are mentally,physically,spiritually mature to find EQUAL VALUE IN A MATE.YOU CANT TEACH THAT.YOU CANT TRICK SOMEONE INTO IT.ITS A NATURAL PROGRESSION.If they dont possess that CHARACTER THAT IT TAKES TO BE ON THIS LEVEL,WE GOT TO LEAVE THOSE MEN ALONE.PERIOD.No sense of getting involved with a selfish man.And sometimes,a woman plays games as well.thats not right either.Sometimes a woman may have the right character and a man will switch up.That is no fault of the womans.Because as always,she will be their to DO HER JOB AND HIS WITHOUT A BLINK.SO because of that,I can understand why a woman would be angry after HE UP AND LEFT HER TO DO ALL THE WORK.But you know what,got to let GOD handle it.

YOU KNOW HOW IT WILL SHOW,WHEN THAT CHILD GROWS UP AND IS ABLE TO COMPREHEND.HE OR SHE WILL ASK WHY DADDY WASNT THERE.AND THATS WHEN ITS GOING TO COUNT.THAT THE FATHER WILL SEE THAT HE CANT GET BACK TIME AND MAKE UP FOR LOST TIME.HIS OWN LIKENESS MAY GROW UP TO NOT LIKE HIM VERY MUCH AT ALL.AND THATS NOT GOOD.IT DOESNT TAKE MONEY TO GIVE CHILDREN EMOTIONAL SUPPORT,TO GIVE CHILDREN YOUR TIME.THATS WHAT THEY WANT MORE THAN ANYTHING.SOMETHING HE WILL HAVE TO LIVE WITH FOR HIS NATURAL LIFE WHILE THE MOTHER WILL GET THE GREATEST GIFT OF ALL,UNCONDITIONAL LOVE AND SUPPORT FROM HER CHILD ALWAYS UNTIL THE END OF TIME..THATS THE REWARD.

Right? No. The doctor and nurses have the RIGHT to be in the delivery room. Anyone else = Privilege.

The man have a right to be there, its his child too. Just because some men wasn’t there during their girl or wife pregnancy, don’t put all men in that boat.

Me I couldn’t be there 100% of my ol lady pregnancy because I work a 12hr shift, but when I was off work, I was there, if anything happen when I was at work, I got off and I was there.

Now if my ol lady was saying that she didn’t want me there, or saying I don’t have a rite there, then guess what? I would have signed the birth certificate and woulda gotten a DNA test to make sure it was mine.

But at the same time the females on here saying that a man have no right to witness the birth of their child, would be talking s**t about the man if he did this to them, but tough tittay!

Typo wouldn’t have signed the birth certificate

crystalclearNY, you wrote…[(doctors tell women each time they give birth that they have a 50% chance of dying on the delivery table even during the most “normal” of circ**stances...] This suggests more than just your doctor if I’m not mistaken. Futhermore, it appears we’re from different backgrounds also. The things you ASSUME of men are not the things that all men do as the men in my area or associate with want nothing more than to have a family and support that family. Making a broad generalization from the condensed sample size you are aware of or are around doesn’t make it specific to men in general. I also ASSUME, from your utilization of loose grammar and profanity that you did not do any research to support your statement. I believe you are correct in that we should teach our sons to be supportive for women, especially the one bearing their child. I would also educate him to not just sleep around with any old “flusie” as my mom would say. When you do, she may get pregnant, and you might end up in a situation we are debating on now…a bitter woman attempting to deny access to see his child because he didn’t do what she wanted or all she wanted. This sort of revenge is prevalent now. I understand each situation is and can be different, so I’ll reiterate that if the man is trying or threatening to harm the mother or child, then of course he shouldn’t be in there. Otherwise he has that right to see his baby. Any previous duration of time in that room before birth is up to the mother.

@fubustyles
that was my point. read the post again. there is NO CORRELATION between a man being in the delivery room witnessing the child’s birth and them sticking around for anything else. it hasn’t healed “black love” nor any love for that matter, it hasn’t fixed the marriages, nor has it made any “baby daddys” more responsible and loving. it equals nothing so that’s just another reason why a woman should maintain the right to make that call based on her desires

If you say the MAN has a right–then you can make a case for every damn person who wants to be there. Momma, poppa, mom in law, pop in law, sister in law ETC. Its not that serious..really.

Woman = mother
Man = father

It takes both to make a baby, so both have the RIGHT to witness their child enter the world.

Its a privilege for other family members to be there, but the father has the same rights as the mother.

Now if the father is a threat like some said in previous comments, then I understand.

FubuStyles…Your bitterness against women is showing through…Because the situation you described regarding “Teaching your son not to sleep around with any old floozie” who could then get pregnant and “become a bitter woman attemting to deny access to see his child” IS NOT THE SITUATION THAT WE ARE DEBATING HERE…SO STAY FOCUSED ON WHATS REALLY BE DISCUSSED HERE, INSTEAD OF WHATS INSIDE YOUR OWN HEAD!
THIS WHOLE DISCUSSION INITIATED RE: TIKI BARBER being barred from the delivery room by his WIFE, WITH WHOM HE HAS 2 OTHER CHILDREN AND The 2 TWINS THAT WERE BORN, 4 IN TOTAL. So, are you saying that she is a “bitter floozie”? She is a dedicated wife who has been repaid for her years of loyalty with a very public slap in the face, and is trying to deal with having her whole world turned upside down by her disloyal, sneaky, selfish, indifferent, cheating husband (who could have very easily given her an STD or HIV while she was pregnant, becuase even condoms break, putting her health and the baby’s health in danger with his high risk sexual antics…and probably was still sleepig with his wife the whole time. And she was supposed to be fine with that, and not bitter at all, according to You, right? And since when did cheating on your wife while shes pregnant with twins become so casual and acceptable as to be described as “not doing what she wanted during the whole pregnancy” I would describe that as putting my health and the babys health at risk…but thats supposed to be overlooked too, huh? Every piece of s**tty behavior displayed by men who have no Loyalty, concern for the fetus, or the woman carrying that child should be noted and acted upon, to put selfish, self-centered LOSERS on notice. Dedicated fathers are there from the first day that they learn that their woman is pregnant. You dont have to tell them to do it! If you dont want to be involved with the pregnancy, dont make a woman pregnant, period. Some women are “floozies”…but if thats what your D–k is attracted to, then deal with the consequences like a Man…Dont turn into a little boy after, dissapear, and then show up later talking about “your rights”…When you disappear, your rights disappear with you, so suck it up…And by the way, my ability to communicate has nothing to do with my strategic use of profanity…I like making sure to get my point across by any means possible, and while profanity is a shocking means of drawing attention to this issue, it is a very useful tool to do so…How much do you care when your sons or nephews call women “b***hes” and “ho’s”? Do you stop and reprimand them? I think my profantiy bothers you so much because you are looking for a means to “put me in my place”…Just like the proverbial “overseer” standing over slaves and trying to make them “stay in their place” Save your petty insults for someone who really cares what you think…Cause my interest is in drawing as much attention to this All American tragedy as possible…with any and all tools in my toolbelt at my disposal, including debating, writing (just completed my 1st manuscript, entitled “Sliding Down Sugar Hill…a cautionary tale” (790 pages, pre-edit) and write short stories and poetry detailing the plight of the urban American child…and fluent curses, and even ebonics, if neccesary! Perhaps you dont live in any of the ghettos of this country, and if so, congratulations on your success and good fortune. But where I live in the NYC, and all over the USA, this is a huge problem growing larger, judging by the endless bad news attributed to these fatherless children growing up alone and creating chaos in their angry wake…Fathers need to finally be held accountable for their selfish, thoughtless, irresponsible actions, and if you dont like what I have to say or how I choose to deliver it…Who cares? I know I dont…You can say what you like, as long as you like…and trust me, I will too…So save your petty insults for someone who might actually be offended by them. All they show me is that you really dont have anything else meaningful to say…but if you are raising your children in a better manner than Mr Tiki Barber and millions of other selfish asses…Good for You, and good for Me too…But I still wont stop talking about it, or change my delivery…So you better suck it up (lol)…Or by pass my statements. The choice is yours and I really dont care…

To Courtney R: I agree with you 100%…I wrote a poem about that very same issue, regarding: Taking a close look, and then a closer look, before jusmping into bed with someone and creating a child. Excellent point made, and hopefully we can get the word out to the next generation coming up, becuse all they are feeding on these days is a steady diet of “Get Yours…I got to do Me…By Any Means Necessary”…and our children and future generations will be paying the price. Keep talking about it, because its not hopeless…This is a battle that will be fought one home at a time, one pair of parents at a time…and many may be lost along the wayside, but we cannot give up on this battle to make fathers become accountable. To do so is unnaceptable, and would condemn future generations to further chaos…Bless You..

To : Real Bumbleclot: Maybe you didnt read it, but I agree with your point…Working a 12 hour shift is a very valid reason to not be able to participate fully in the pregnancy, and every man has the right to a paternity test, period. That is a quick means to settle any doubts, though sad when it is necessary…

crystalclearNY, for someone who doesn’t care, you have a lot to say. lol. As for bitterness, I am definitely not bitter toward women, an entire group. I think maybe you are transposing your emotional vulnerability to me. I am far more logical than emotional which is somewhat typical of men, I believe. I see women and everyone for that matter on an individual basis, meaning even though there may be a broad generalization out there, I am not going to condemn every individual of that group. But if you do, that’s fine. As far as petty insults are concerned, I apologize if you took it that way. I was merely proving a point about generalization (as you proved my point). That’s why assume was all caps. It also appears that you have missed the point of my comment. We’ll try this again…I am saying that the mother keeping the father out of the delivery room is denying access to his child because there is more than just the mother in that room. I also stated that she has the right to not have him in there until the baby is almost out. As soon as that baby is present (head showing), then he should be allowed access. He doesn’t have to be her coach as she can have someone else there. He can merely be a witness to his child. As far as the topic, I again apologize. I thought the question was “Does A Father Have The Right To Be In The Delivery Room?” I read the last paragraph which stated, [With that being said, I direct these questions to you. Does a father have a right to be in the delivery room even if the wife insists that he is not? What if the couple is separated? Should their personal issues be put to the side for the sake of the child’s happiness? Or are the needs of the woman during the labor more important?] and thought the question being asked was general and non-specific to just Tiki Barber (Nas was mentioned also). But there I go assuming again. Lol. So I will comment directly to the Tiki Barber situation as the topic as you mentioned. I may not know the whole situation between them, but my view is in my comments I made previously, “I agree that if there are certain situations where the father maybe shouldn’t be in the room such as if he has made a claim to hurt the baby or mother.” Otherwise he should be allowed in there.
In closing, I did want to clear up the “floozie” comment. I am not calling all women floozies. I am specifically stating a certain type of individual that is defined as the term states, a tawdry or sexually promiscuous woman. My mother used this loose, somewhat amusing, term to a child to educate me on how to be a man, treat women right, and find the best match for me. She also taught me to take responsibility and stand up for what is right as righteousness is not dependent on other’s actions (eliminates spite/vengefulness). I do not know Tiki’s wife, so I do not know what she is nor do I want to. You asked if I reprimand my nephews or sons for calling b’s and h’s. I do not use those terms nor curse for that matter so I definitely do not allow for them to curse or use those terms. I also do not allow them to generalize a group of race, creed, gender, etc. as that seems to be what we have fought against for so long. For this simple topic, you appear to be all over the place with your comments. I was not attempting to put you in your place. Lol. I don’t know you nor do I think in that manner. You can argue for as long as you like, however you like but when there is a child, there are always two people responsible…the man and the woman. I agree that men need to step up. As do women. If you are keeping a man from seeing his child excluding extreme circ**stances, then you are wrong as a woman. If you are a man not being there for you child, financially, physically, excluding extreme circ**stances then you are wrong. It doesn’t matter what walk of life you’re from.

Kashi101, I understood your comment and responded as such. I am stating your data is a null hypothesis (A type of hypothesis used in statistics that proposes that no statistical significance exists in a set of given observations). Because of such then these observations can not be used for reasoning. If it not related to them sticking around, making less baby daddys, or fixing marriages, then why keep them out? So you stated it equals nothing (0). How can nothing be be a reason for not seeing his child being born?

I think if his presence causes her undue stress, then no he shouldn’t be in there. If his previous actions, like someone mentioned having unprotected sex with someone else, causes her stress and fear, he is doing more harm than good. A real man wouldn’t want to be there if his child is in danger. He could want her dead and the child too by trying to stress her out. But too many women use their kids to get at the fathers. This could be an instance of that. If this is the case, she is wrong for excluding him.

It is the woman that if physically having the child, so it is her say who is in the delivery room with her. NO DEBATE.

When men start having the physical ability to have children then they will have the right to be in the delivery room for their childs birth because they will be doing the birthing.

Otherwise, the father and any people other than the Doctor will have to ask for the pregnant womans permission to be in the room during delivery.

IMHO I think it’s up to the mother to choose who she wants to be in delivery room with her. While it would be ideal to have the father of the child(ren) in the room it doesn’t always happen that way. Particularly if the man has been abusive or cheating. What women would want him there. yes, it’s a personal choice.

FubuStyles: As I said…You have your opinion and are entitled to it…but any man who would characterize women as “floozies” wihtout even acknowledging the other side of the coin…Devoted mothers/wives/girlfriends/&fiancees who are being abandoned high and dry by their so-called Men, in pursuit of selfish, meaningless pursuits, such as young, fast s**ts (those are the ones who actually are the “floozies” you speak of) drugs, alcohol, gambling,habitual casual sex, cars, clothes, and anything else self-centered, without any kind of devotion, loyalty, consideration or respect for the mother of their child does not deserve any consideration either. And I have a lot to say because I care about what is happening in my family, my community, and each successive generation of young people head towards…and will continue speaking out about this shameful mess, and pray that my voice can make even the tiniest bit of difference…Not because I care what YOU think…Get it now?

And you know what Fubu…? You sound so out of touch with actual reality, its almost as if I am communicating with an android or a computer…Like your nose is so far up in the Air you think you can smell God’s farts…I mean, people are hurting their children by abandoning them, and dropping in and out of their lives causing terrible harm…and you seem like your main priority in this discussion is to exercise your extensive vocabulary…I guess you wont be able to see the harm this s**t is causing until it happens to your own daughter or granddaughter…Then please do tell me how its not necessary for a father to fully participate in his wife’s pregnancy, and how she should bend over backwards to accomodate his whims when he shows up an hour or two before the birth. Then let me know how you feel about it, “Professor Overseer”…cause other than that, I dont think you and I will ever see eye to eye…and thats fine. I dont need your opinion to validate mines…And I think thats what bothers you the most about Me…and you’ll just have to suck that up too…but I damn sure keep you checking for my lastest posting, dont I? And just so you know, when you got really boring and super-intellectualized in your last posting…I almost fell asleep at my keyboard! (lol) You can continue this debate with Yourself…Im sure you’ll enjoy it…

Am I the only one who thinks this guy is a huge windbag with no emotions? Like a cross between the Terminator, Al Gore and a WindMachine…

For real…All jokes aside, seriously…Look at “FubuStyles” response to Kashi101 at 2:45pm…Its like talking to a cold, indifferent android…I wouldnt expect anything less from the Terminator…(lol) Unbelievable what this country is turning into…and how little respect is given to decent women anymore…but I guess he’ll be churning out another 50 page posting from his memory chip implanted in his brain about how women get no respect, not even from the father of their children, because…blah,blah,blah, blah, snore,snore,zzzzz….

no. it should be up to the woman.

@crystalclearny….I can totally understand the passion in your writing…I do.So many people do not seem to understand that its absolutely hurting the FAMILY STRUCTURE BY BOTH PARENTS not cooperating with one another before and especially after a baby comes along.ITS SERIOUS BUSINESS.And this lack of understanding,being NONCHALANT ABOUT RELATIONSHIPS BETWEEN A MAN AND A WOMAN,THE seriousness OF PROFESSING YOUR LOVE TO GOD WHEN YOU GET MARRIED(NOT A JOKE PEOPLE NO MATTER HOW MANY OTHERS IN SOCIETY TAKE IS AS SUCH)MAKING BABIES,WALKING AWAY FROM RESPONSIBILITY BECAUSE YOU CANT HACK IT OR TO SCARED,DISRESPECTING THE VERY SANCTITY THAT MARRIAGE SHOULD BE BETWEEN A MAN AND WOMAN by doing everything OTHER than what is SUPPOSE TO BE IN A RELATIONSHIP MARRIAGE(TEAMWORK,UNCONDITIONAL LOVE,HONESTY,RESPECT,HONOR,PRIDE,PASSION FOR ONE ANOTHER IN WHATS YOURS AND WHAT YOU CHOOSE,LEADERS BY EXAMPLE FOR THE COMMUNITY AROUND YOU SO ON)

Like you said,their are some serious DECENT WOMEN WHO ARE NOT GIVING THE TIME OF DAY by our so called MEN who REFUSE TO STAND FOR WHAT IS RIGHT Because they are to concerned about what other so called males may think about them FOR FEAR OF MISSING OUT ON SOMETHING OR CHASING SOMETHING NOT WORTH IT IN THE FIRST PLACE.IT IS NOT OK TO WALK OUT ON YOUR WIFE,it is not ok to walk away from your children,HOW CAN ANY WOMAN ENTERTAIN YOU AS A SERIOUS SUITOR FOR HERSELF WHEN YOU WERENT SERIOUS WITH THE ONE YOU WALKED AWAY FROM? ESPECIALLY THE LAME REASONINGS THATMANY OF YOU WALK AWAY FOR….When the real thing that was worth it was at home,RIGHT IN FRONT OF YOU THE ENTIRE TIME.WHAT ARE THEY CHASING? YOUTH? YOU CANT GET THAT BACK.WHEN ITS TIME TO BE A MAN,be that ..STAND ON YOUR OWN TWO FEET MORALLY TO SHOW THE REST OF YOUR CLAN(MALES) what to do if they want REAL DECENT WOMEN..BECAUSE IM TELLING YOU,REAL WOMEN ARE NOT STANDING FOR IT.

NOW EVERYONE is pointing the fingers as to why the family structure is so BROKEN….My question to all of you is WHAT DECISIONS IN YOUR LIFE DID YOU MAKE TO AVOID THE PITFALLS OF A BROKEN FAMILY?and I understand that AT TIMES THEIR ARE REAL LEGITIMATE REASONS AS TO WHY A FAMILY CAN FALL APART,but those real reasons DONT OUT WAY THE MANY SELFISH REASONINGS WHY THEY FALL APART.

LET ME SAY THIS,TO ALL MEN,YOU WILL NEVER ,EVER BE TAKING SEROIUS BY THE WORLD UNTIL YOU LEARN TO RESPECT your WOMEN,BUILD,NURTURE,PROVIDE,FOR YOUR FAMILY,WIFE AND CHILDREN,ENSURE THEIR SAFETY.REAL MEN STICKING UP FOR AND LEADING THE MALES IN YOUR COMMUNITY TO REDIRECT THEIR ANGER..I DONT CARE HOW MUCH MONEY YOU ARE ABLE TO POSSESS,IT MEANS NOTHING IF YOU DONT RESPECT THE FAMILY THAT YOU MADE.AND AGAIN,IT DOESNT MATTER WHAT OTHERS DO,THEY DONT HAVE TO PROVE ANYTHING BECAUSE THEY OWN EVERYTHING,GOT EVERYTHING,SO IT DOESNT MATTER.PERIOD.

HOW ARE YOU GOING TO LEAD A NATION WHEN YOU CANT EVEN LEAD YOUR OWN HOUSEHOLDS? THINK ABOUT THAT WHEN YOUR STEPPING OUTSIDE OF YOUR MARRIAGES,RELATIONSHIPS,ABANDONING YOUR CHILDREN.

IN ORDER TO TAKEN SERIOUS BY THE WORLD,YOU HAVE TO BE A REAL LEADER.IF YOU ARE THE TRUE MAN,SHOW YOUR COMMUNITIES,AND WOMEN AND CHILDREN THAT.AND ONLY THEN,CAN YOU HAVE A VOICE THAT OTHERS WILL LISTEN TOO..

CRYSTAL,YOUR RIGHT,WOMEN DONT NEED BOYS,DONT NEED CLOWNS ,WE NEED THE REAL DEAL AND IN HUGE NUMBERS.NOT A SPRINKLE HERE OR THERE.MOST PEOPLE PROBABLY THINK IM RAMBLING BUT LIKE YOU ARE DOING,,PEOPLE NEED TO HEAR THE REAL TRUTH FOR REAL.FOR ANYBODY WHO THINKS THAT THEIR IS SOMETHING WRONG WITH PEOPLE LIKE YOU ,OTHERS OR I,ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS LOOK AT THE STATE OF THE COMMUNITIES,WOMEN AND CHILDREN AND YOU WILL AUTOMATICALLY PROVE THEM WRONG.bless you too and bless all of us..

It is serious business, Courtney…Many, many lives are at stake, and many poor choices are being made…and somehow, the family unit continues to suffer…Shameful and cannot continue to be ignored, trivialized, romanticized, or super-intellectualized…This s**t has got to stop, one family at a time…I married my husband after being together for seven years, and after 3 children, he left our household to go smoke crack and chase loose women 11 months ago. I spent the first six months of our separation trying to stay calm and cool and deal with it in the best manner for our little ones…and he spent that same time ducking responsibilites, smoking crack and lying on me. saying that I beat him up so he could get his own apartment fast and easy, by playing the domestic violence shelter system. I have spent the last five months, since January, going to bed exhausted every night, fighting to keep my head above water, finacially, emotionally and sometimes literally! Meantime, he’s throwing away any chance to be a substantial, focused guiding light in his children’s lives…for bulls**t. And yes, he did go to rehab when he disappeared (after a massive crack attack)…and came out and started using again, and held to none of his promises to take his fair share of the load. My story is but one…There are millions more children suffering the loss of their dads…in fact, I was one of those children…so I can never stay quiet about it. No matter who doesnt like it, or agree with Me. But thanks for taking a moment to respond…Bless you,as well…

Gawd damn I wish people would just leave a short comment instead of writing a damn essay! Anyway, usually when a woman doesn’t want the father in the room its for a damn good reason. Like Tiki Barber for example; he left his PREGNANT wife for some lil w***e! I can only imagine how hurt she is. I wouldn’t want that a*****e all in my face while I was trying to push out a baby! She had the right to ban his cheating ass from being in the room while she was giving birth!

well how bout the man take 5 years off before payin support. then see how she like that. tip for tap. thats how i see it.

For me personally, I plan on being a wonderful husband and father. If I do all these things with her…all those birth preparation classes and what not..taking care of her and being on that 9 month journey along side her…and then when it comes down to it she says she doesn’t want me in there with her?? I would be kind of crushed by it…and I would feel very distant and hurt(I’m being honest) after that..maybe even not want to have more kids. Again..I’m being honest, the kind of man, and the kind of husband I wanna be..and the kind of wife I want..that would not sit well with me, even if it is up to her

And comparing momma and poppa being in the delivery room to an Actual father? LOL..seriously, Wow…

Lmao @ comparing being in the delivery room to a spectator sport. Seriously? Yall are hilarious on here lol

I’m surprised by the number of women that wouldn’t allow their man in there with them. Unless yall are against each other and there’s some kind of dispute or mistreatment..I can’t understand why you wouldn’t want him by your side. I personally don’t know a lot of good men that wouldn’t wanna be side by side while it happens, that says something to me

HELL YEAH A FATHER (IF HE IS THE FATHER) HAS A RIGHT TO BE IN THE DELIVERY ROOM!!!
I AM A FATHER OF 3 KIDS, ONE SON AND 2 DAUGHTERS, AND I WAS THERE IN THE DELIVERY ROOM.
A REAL MAN WOULD BE THERE TO SUPPORT THE MOTHER OF HIS CHILDREN NO MATTER WHAT THE SITUATION IS!!!

I AM SO SICK AND TIRED HEARING ABOUT HOW BLACK MEN WHO DO NOT TAKE CARE OF THEIR CHILDREN, WHAT ABOUT THE GOOD BLACK MEN WHO ARE THERE FOR THEIR CHILDREN 100% — WE ARE OUT THERE WITH OUR KIDS, SHOWING HOW IT IS BEING A GOOD FATHER!!!
A LOT OF GOOD MEN GET A LOT OF CRAP FROM NO GOOD MOTHERS!!! NOT SAYING ALL MOTHERS AND FATHERS ARE BAD DEPENDING ON THE CIRC**STANCE, BUT THE GOOD MEN ARE ALWAYS THROWN UNDER THE BUS BECAUSE SOME F*CKED UP WOMAN SCREWED UP THE FATHER OF THEIR CHILDREN BECAUSE OF SOME F*CKED UP EXCUSE!!!

I CAN ONLY SPEAK AS A FATHER AND OF MY OWN OPINION.’

IN THE CASE OF TIKI BARBER & NAS IS A DIFFERENT STORY AND NO ONE KNOWS REALLY THE STORY BEHIND IT — WELL TIKI LEFT HIS WIFE FOR ANOTHER WOMAN AND I CAN SEE WHERE SHE DID NOT WANT HIM IN THE DELIVERY ROOM AND THAT IS TOTALLY UNDERSTANDABLE.

BEFORE ANY OF YOU BACKWARDS, UNEDUCATED, IGNORANT, NON TALKING, GHETTO BLACK PEOPLE START GOING OFF, READ THE WHOLE POST BEFORE SAYING ANYTHING!!!
NOW, IF THIS DOES HAPPEN, I KNOW YOU DID NOT READ THE WHOLE POST BUT ONLY TOOK BITS AND PIECES WHAT WHAT YOU WANT TO READ!!!

I usually dont respond to nonsense but I feel compelled to.We write long ESSAYS,our OPINIONS ,because we have the RIGHT TO DO SO.If You dont WANT TO READ THE LONG ESSAY,SUMMARY,BOOK,,

DON’T. You have that right as well as an HUMAN BEING.Now for those WOMEN who ACTUALLY DO CARE TO SAY SOMETHING OTHER THAN ONE OR TWO LINES,just says how PASSIONATE they are about THE SUBJECT.

OUT OF THIS ENTIRE ARTICLE,SOME OF THE PEOPLE COMPLAINING SHOULD BE COMPLAINING HOW BROKEN YOUR HOMES ARE,SOCIETY IS,

NOT HOW LONG A RESPONSE IS TO A SUBJECT MATTER THAT IS NO LAUGHING MATTER AT ALL.ITS PATHETIC THAT WE HAVE TO HAVE THIS CONVERSATION WITH GROWN PEOPLE.IS THIS THE BEST THAT CHILDREN HAVE TO LOOK UP TOO?

If you dont care to READ,let me put that in big bold letters again, READ,that is your choice.PLEASE DO NOT say IGNORANT THINGS when REAL COMPASSIONATE HUMAN being are trying to DIALOGUE
WITH each other BESIDES ARTICLES LIKE WHO’S SLEEPING WITH WHO,WHAT YOUR MAN WANTS YOU TO SAY TO HIM IN BED NONSENSE..

@CRYSTALCLEARNY, First I want to say that Im sorry that you had to and have to go through what you are going through.So many women and men truly dont deserve it.They deserve a real man to be their to aid and support their wives and children NO MATTER WHAT.I pray that your SITUATION changes for the better,that he can OVERCOME his selfish ways.But if not,THAT GOD BRINGS YOU A REAL MAN THAT YOU AND YOUR CHILDREN CLEARY DESERVE.THAT WILL CHERISH YOU AND LOVE YOU THE WAY YOU AUGHT TO BE. IT’S such a tragedy that you have GROWN MEN,strong men physically in their presence who do not WANT TO GROW UP.BOYS TRAPPED IN A MANS BODY.

WHEN WILL some of yall grow up and see the travesty of some of the decisions YOU ARE CREATING BY NOT BEING THERE FOR YOUR FAMILIES AND CHILDREN? WHY DOES ANOTHER GROWN MAN HAVE TO TEACH YOU THAT?

crystalclearNY, it seems that actual reality to you is only what you can see or what is around YOU. The world does not revolve around YOU thus there can be something other than what YOU believe or think. Writing paragraph after paragraph about what you FEEL does not change what IS. I apologize for appearing emotionless or android-like as my goal was to only speak to the specific topic at hand without relating my specific interactions to the entire population. The things you speak of (Floozies, father’s participation, etc) are addressed in my previous posts so I’m not going to reply with same response just because you dont have the capacity recognize them. I simplified the responses and made them direct but I guess it’s still over your head. You must be pretty short. Lol. Petty, I know.

Is this one of those situations with two people that you have when the person is venting and not really caring about other’s input? If so, it definitely makes sense because you’re ranting to me on and on about what men should do, without even realizing that I agree with you. Emotional paragraph after paragraph you rant when I have consistently said that men need to be MEN and be there for their wives or baby’s mothers throughout the entire pregnacy. The difference here is that I believe that if they are not there for the duration of the pregnacy, then it should not automatically keep them from being there for the birth of THEIR child. The issue is, that in your emotional state, I don’t think you are the best judge of what a good man is. You appear biased and one-sided. But you’ve been hurt so I get it. Also, why do you need validation from others about what you think of me and my posts? You can make an judgement on millions of men on your own, but need a second opinion on if one person is a windbag with no emotions…hilarious. I am sure you get the irony there, with you being a writer and all.

I am sorry for boring you. Also, you not having the same opinion as I definitely doesn’t bother me. I do look to read your posts because they are very entertaining…like the Jerry Springer show. Watching people respond emotionally in their own enclosed reality. Don’t worry about seeing eye to eye either. I learned a long time ago that you should never bend down to see eye to eye with a person before they make a valid attempt to step up to your level.

All jokes aside, I do pray things get better with your family and hope you find peace in your situation.

I believe that a man does have the right to be in the delivery room. Its his baby too and he should have the same rights to that child. I do believe that it is a sign to how the mother will be once the child is born. I understand us being hurt women after a man has done us wrong, I whole heartedly disagree with putting a child in the middle of or hurt! Please women understand how much more pressure you are putting on self to raise a child alone. That child will resent you for the father being gone and resent the father for not fighting hard enough to be with him/her. Please lets stop doing this to our kids! We are killing them slowly. We women choose these men to lay down with and have unprotected sex with, now that you have a child with him dont start picking him apart now bc you all are no longer together. (thats your pain not the childs pain)

exactly why most black women will end up raising children alone lolol. Who cares if u carry the baby by saying u should decide makes men secondary parents as in “not important” but as soon as we adopt that attitude we r wrong???????????? It doesnt matter what tiki or anyone else left u for it has nada 2 do with the kids and when u fire shots like that expect 2 b fired back upon as in raise them yourself if i cant make the same decisions u can about the kids….. im not working for any woman telling me what i can and cant do with my children all the while she collectin money from me neeeevvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvveeeerrrr srry ladies..

I mean if all the man did was donate sperm…then I can somewhat understand why a woman would have that reaction. But if he’s your long term boyfriend or husband…I don’t get it

I can honestly say that as a man…personally, if after being there side by side with her through everything she told me that she doesn’t want me in the delivery room with her…that would literally be like a shot to the heart

I’m actually glad this article came up because this will be another thing I’ll have to discuss with a future mate. If she says she’s not gonna want me in there, I might very well break it off with her and not have kids. If my gf/future wifey did that to me…that would be a major blow to me. It would take me weeks if not months to get over it and I may feel very distant. In fact I may not feel like talking to her much after that…and just take care of my kid if we did have one

But now…I’ll be sure to discuss this with a future partner

Perionne, are you saying that if a man doesn’t witness the birth of his child, it makes him less of a father?

I alos want to add in other cultures around the world …only the mother and the mid wives are allowed at the presence of a child being born!!!!

Sure I think a man should be in the delivery room to witness the birth of his child, unless he doesn’t want too- But I do think it’s more of a bonding experience between the Mother and Father that is missed out on when he’s not apart of that special moment…It’s just my thoughts on it.

Miss_Pink…what I am saying that for me, I would take it as a personal blow if my future long term gf/wife didn’t want me in the room. I’m being honest, it would affect me to the point where I’d barely want to speak to her for weeks if not months. That’s just the kind of bf/husband/father I am and want to be.

I understand in the other circ**stances, just saying in that scenario I and other men that want to be great husbands and fathers would take it personal. It may seem like a small thing, but especially for me it wouldn’t

Which is why I said it’s something couples should not talk about if they’re getting serious. You’d be surprised how little things like that can affect a relationship

I think tha a father has every right to be in the delivery room because they played just as much a big part in creating the child than the mother it’s a 50/50 thing you know. My baby’s father wasn’t there for the birth of our child and he really wanted to be there but just so happen I had the baby in a whole different state and he didn’t make it in time to be in the presence of me giving birth to his first born son. It really broke my heart because I really wanted him to be there and he didn’t make it in time. I didn’t even have my child at the hospital I was scheduled to give birth at because I was at my cousin’s house for the weekend.So yes I think the father has the right to be in the delivery room if he was by the woman side throughout her whole pregnancy and everything…But if not no!!!

Jesus Loves, Jesus Saves, Jesus Protects and most of all Jesus Blesses AMEN.

Some people don’t know that a mother delivering a baby could have complications. Some babies died in childbirth and sometimes the mothers too. People take it for granted getting pregnant is something that’s simple when there are high risks to the baby’s life or mother like high blood pressure, strokes even a rupture of the womb. The mother must always be in an environment that’s stress free.

For example if the mother separated/divorced from the father and there’s bad blood it would not be a good idea for the father to be in the delivery room but he should be allow to watch through the screen and allow to hold the baby after it’s deliver. Who know they may get back together after all the drama of delivering a baby. It happened sometimes in real life.

I think its the womans choice especially if the father hasnt been there or causes undo stress that could of hurt the mother inturn hurting the unborn child..I know I been there as well and its the safety of the mother and child that outways what the father wants especially if he neglected his responsibilities in the first place. Tiki Barber knew what he was doing and that it was wrong and then still wants to play daddy in the delivery room?? I would of have armed guards and all kinds of security just to be like ohh hell no you aint lol and then tell him to kick rocks lmao

#dame that what they dont understand…because in nas case ..he camei n the delivery room pissy drunk and Kiki they just broke up a couple of weeks ago.. damn he could have at least waited until she got her first week check up to drop the bomb… in both cases the wound is fresh and wouldn’t be a good for neither the child or the mother.. especially the mother sense she has to concentrate physically on pushing the child and her body could tense up and cause other problem because big head in the room causing your blood pressure to rise…for the health of everyone involved..

especially if their is bad blood …the man should stay outside the room

Hell why should he?
in America a woman can kill a mans unborn child at will, he has no rights

A woman can keep a man from seeing his kids, He has no rights

A woman can lie and send a man to jail without even a question of his innocence, he has no rights

A woman can use child support on her self, another mans kids, etc and then sendyour own kid to you begging for money, He has no rights

A woman can take, your home, your wealth, your kids. hell even your dog, and you still got no damm rites

So why would such a silly questioned be asked?

Wake up dudes if your dumb or brave enough to have kids with a woman in America, then all power to you. just remember, this is America

but then you could luck out, supposedly someone hits the lottery every time right?

No! Just pay child support and shut up;,,,,or jackoff.

well at least shut up and jack off somewhere..it you done that in the first place.. she wouldn’t be in the delivery room having your child!!!!

I think that although a husband should have a choice in being in the delivery room, there are too many circ**stances that come into the equation as to why the husband would not be allowed in. This is a issue of rights as a patient. As a patient, you do not have to have anyone in a room with you while you are having a procedure (giving birth, c-section, etc.)unless you want them to be there. I find it hard to believe that a wife in a good relationship does not want her husband to be there to witness the birth of their child, but there are deeper issues that dictate why the wife would not want her husband to be in the delivery room. The delivery room is not the place for negativity or anger because, as a woman, you are already going through enough pain.

SAIYANKING despite your ignorant and misguided comments a man does have a right actually because he help make that child, and the woman didn’t have it on her own. Unless you are a evil woman who brain is full of drama, ignorance, and hate, then you will allow the father of your child to be there. Who are you to deny that? A woman is not perfect or always right as the media and some stupid people want to display. I think alot of black people are trying so hard to be accept by the majority of America that they are becoming something more disgusting and ignorant. A man has alot of rights and control if he reads and educates himself. Women need to stop thinking they have rights like children seriously, not everyone has a right to everything in life and just because you have boobs and a ass does not mean you are above the law.

I know it may seem harsh but it really depends on the circ**stances. In the case of Tiki Barber, if my hubby left me for another woman while I was pregnant. I would still be very bitter about it and him being in the delivery room would be stressful. It’s very important to have the best environment possible for such an event. There is a lot of pain, a lot of stress..and the woman needs a positibe support group or person. He would have to suck it up. They may mend fences later on, but if the wound is too raw, I can really understand that situation. My first sons birth was wonderful becuase my entire family was there including my husband. My second son, not so much. My hubby and I moved to a new state and it was just me and him and we were going through problems. I cried the entire time, and not just from the pain. I missed that positive support. he was trying I guess, but…

THAT IS THE MOST RIDICULOUS STATEMENT, WHAT DO U MEAN DO THEY HAVE THE RIGHT TO BE IN THE ROOM, THEY HAVE THE RIGHT TO PAY CHILD SUPPORT DON’T THEY….. ALRIGHT THEN STUPID A**

Man!…What kind of question is that??!!…WTF??!!…WHY SHOULD HE BE THERE??!!!..DUH??!!…HE HELPED CREATE THE CHILD, YOU PHUCKING IDIOT!!!…WHO HIRED THEZE PEOPLE PERPING AS WRITERS??!! LOL!…Who owns this media company??!!…Just one stupid question after another, every week, every day, every hour….Un-phucking-believable!…

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@ darkzero
cant tell if you ar a dude or chick, but one thing i can tell is that u really aint up on sarcasm aint ya? well my 1st statment was sarcasm. but everything else after was nothing but the truth. i dont know what world or country you live in But unless you got filthy money to hire the best of the Best legal help, your very essence lies on a womans whim once your married or have kids with her, Here in America.

I agree with Siayanking’s comment! When it comes to the justice system, Men and a Women do not have equal rights! Even if the woman is a drama b***h, she’ll lie and cry in court to make it seem like she’s such a victim! It’s messed up but it’s the ugly truth. Let’s keep it real

There is hardly any country where rights for males and females are 100% peachy…in some countries women get the short end of the stick

I don’t think however, that we should be comparing this to a woman deciding whether to reproduce or not. And I do agree that it depends on how the man is…if he’s an a-hole that only donated sperm then I can’t argue there

I would personally only speak for the men who are side by side with their gf/wife every step of the way during that 9-10 months. I could understand if a man was hurt if he wasn’t allowed by his supposed love, because I know I would

However, let’s take each issue for what it is…some people always feel that they have to make wild comparisons.

When I started complaining about thee lying azzed men in my life what people said to me was “well you picked him”
so remember the next time you start complainig about some lying azzed woman that”You picked her”

U muthaf**kn right a FATHER should be ab le 2 be permitted 2 c his seed bornI don’t care if**k if we she him seperated nor has broken up.we dads have as just as much privileges as the mother(incubator)! I was their 4 all 5 of mines & wish some1 would hv tried 2 tell me I could not pop n!

I’m with SAIYANKING on this one. In American court systems, a man has no rights and don’t let it be a Black man either or else you have so many other stereotypes and factors playing into your case to where not only do you not get any rights, but you get your stuff taken from you and you have to work to get it back from damn near scratch, if not less than that.
Does he have a right, morally and parentaly speaking, yes, but if the woman says no, then you’re just SOL and you can’t do a thing about it.

as usual the MAN always ignores his own truth!!!

Alot of women are very ignorant, I myself am pregnant at this time. And thankfully I get along with the father of my children. But even if he broke my heart and tore it into a million pieces, it has absolutely nothing to do with his relationship with the child that HE made with me. A real mother and woman, in this day and age of DNA test dramas on daytime TV, should applaud any man, especially BLACK man who wants to be there for every moment of his child’s life. AND don’t forget, your actions of bitterness and pettiness will only harm and probably distance you from your child as it did with me and my MOM. As I saw her literally talk down about my father day in and out, no matter how right she may or may not have been, I HATED HER FOR IT. So let these women think of their broken hearts and stressful situations, but realize that they’re just creating a cycle of brokeness for kids.

[...] Does A Father Have The Right To Be In The Delivery Room? [...]

Ive had many,many battles with the mother of my son. Yet the day of his birth I was greeted at her door by one of the attending nurses. The nurse asked her if I could come in and she said yes. That has keep down a lot of drama and future headaches. No matter how I feel about her personally I will always respect her for that.

I would prefer my wife has a home-birth with the asistance of a mid-wife

I DO NOT want my children born in a hospital (hospice,death-house) so the doctor does not “deliver” our child into the custody of “THE STATE”(inc.) by way of the “Birth-Certificate” (bErth?)

but regardless of all that, women should be happy that a man wants to be involved in all that when so many men are nowhere to be found

Well Perionne,If My husband wants to witness the birth of our child–then I would let him. However…with all the commotion, and emotion, and craziness and complications that goes on the actual delivery room, I’d say its about preference and whats in the best interest of the health…But I would want my husband to cut the umbilical cord :)

I think many are confusing being at the hospital with being in the actual delivery room.

blackpol01,
Being in the delivery room has nothing to do with the child. I mean lets be honest, would it be that terrible if a father whos not on good terms with the mother, wait til 3 minutes after birth to to see his child? Doubt it.

Being in the delivery room is moreso a bonding experience between two parents–how could they truly share that experience if they hate, despise, and disgust each other?? How is that a beneficial environment to literally bring a child into?

It’s the mothers choice. Every woman feels different about it. I never had a baby or had baby daddy drama so I can’t call it. But if we don’t know the exact situation we can’t judge the woman. And maybe it is best for the man not to b there if the woman is upset with him that can speed up her heart rate, cause more anxiety, increase her blood pressure, etc. Some women are already at risk for heart attacks and strokes during childbirth so the less stress the better the process will go

Also, another poster brings up a good point–what exactly is wrong with watching the birth from the window, THEN coming in to see the child/cut the umbilical cord?

greetings @2znm
my friend this has nothing to do with the choice of his mate, but everything to do with the child, regardless of what many hypocritical women in here are saying. allow me to expound. Women constantly claim that especially black men are never there for their kids, in fact they love to make it known and put him on blast if the man does NOT appear at the birth. So when a Man shows up regardless of the situation you 2 are going through to welocme his child into the world and you block him you are setting he standards and all ready breathing negativity and contempt into what is supposed to be a beautiful beginning. I have come to realize how so many women are truly full of themselves. and think that the man must be coming for her. i can only speak for myself but if im at odds with the mother the only thing i care about is that life coming out of her, and deep down i think all women know this and it tears them apart that they are no longer #1 so they do what they know will hurt the man for their Hurt and what else than the greatest weapon, his own seed. and here in America not only is it common practice it is encouraged

I can understand why these ladies kept them out of the delivery room. You have enough drama and pain to deal with during the actual delivery process so why add extra. They did what they felt was best for their mental state so they could concentrate on the task at hand, getting the child(ren)into this world safely.
I don’t agree with this choice and wouldn’t have made that choice myself. As many men as there are in this world that run away from their children prior to birth why bar one who is actually trying to be there from day one. Let him in and let him know that your relationship issues need to be checked at the door so you two can focus on the most important thing, the baby.

MiSz_PiNk_DiamOnd, I appreciate your opinion, but being in the delivery room as a man has everything to do with the child. It’s important to be able to greet that child as soon as he comes out. Cutting the umbilical cord is also very important. Whether the two parties are on good terms or not, it doesn’t matter because they share a child. When that child gets older, are they not going to go see him in the hospital at the same time if he gets severely hurt? When a parent puts themselves, insecurities, and vendettas ahead of the child then thats when these issues most often occur. When speaking of getting along, I think a lot of where this stems from is not the father, but the personalities of the woman. Because women are naturally more emotional, it may be more difficult for them to let go or accept that the father may have put things behind him and is there to support the child.

No. He doesn’t have the RIGHT. He can come in only if it doesn’t upset the birthing mother. Anyone who’s given birth understands that’s not a time to be exercising patience or dealing with ill feelings!

Unless the lady(s)conceive all on their own…they absolutely should be allowed in.It’s just as much the father’s baby,as it’s the mother’s.Hopefully she know’s who the father is.

@ samstheone! ” Hopefully she knows who the father is” You a fool for that one! Lol. Ain’t that the truth!

You know, with so many fathers abandoning children on mothers and running away from responsibility, a woman would be a complete fool to deny a father his request to be in the delivery room. I know fathers that are present in their children’s lives, actively, and didn’t want to be in the delivery room. But, here you have a guy, be he a complete jerk to you or not, willing to work around all that just to witness his child’s first breath. That’s the time to set that pride and petty stuff aside and let him be a responsible man. I can almost bet you that if he’s there for day one, when he could easily run away, he’ll be there for the days after that, if only for the sake of the child. I can also bet that if you shun him, especially off some stupid stuff that you can’t get over, he won’t even try and you’re bring the difficulty of raising that child alone on yourself. Let a man be a real man and, at least, do right by his child. Now, if he’s just trying to come in to be an @ss? Forget that dude…

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Miss_Pink, I don’t think people are mistaking. I still retain that I’d take it as a personal blown in the Delivery room if I couldn’t be there side by side with her. The only way I’d see that not being a problem is if there was a strong dispute between them

I’ve read most of the posts here and can’t believe that some people actually side with the mothers. I don’t care how the mothers feel about their children’s fathers; their personal feelings or preferences should be put aside because witnessing the birth of a child is a once in a lifetime experience for some men, which is something that they can’t get back. I’ll be like Steve Wilkos! I’ll be kicking some azz and taking down some names! I’ll go to jail before my wife bans me from the delivery room! You women who side with the mothers must be male-hating feminists.

But having someone in the delivery room good terms or not–may not be a walk in the park. It may be stressful, especially since the man doesnt know exactly how much pain youre going through, and though I’d let my husband witness it–I can understand the choice to have as little commotion as possible to ensure the utmost health for the baby and mother.

You could be on good terms with the father/husband but just not want all the commotion of having 8 people telling you to push and cheering you on like some sort of basketball game.

@Misz_Pink_Diamoond

Once again, seeing the birth of a child is a once in a lifetime experience for some men; therefore, the women’s personal preferences should be set aside. I’ve never suggested that having someone in the delivery room was a “a walk in the park;” however, I can’t see having a husband in the delivery room being more stressful. It should encouraging. The mother should just tell everybody to be quiet instead of banning the child’s father from the delivery room. I don’t mean to sound sexist, but some of you women have very twisted logic. What if he sat back and just watch and didn’t say anything? Would it be “stressful” then?

Well, speaking for myself, if Im trying to push a child out of me–the equivalent of push and hard boiled eg through a fruit loop–the last thing on my mind is what my husband is saying. I’d probably be delirious from the epidural and the immense pain and suffering I’m going through to considering that.

And yes it may be a ‘once in a lifetime’ opportunity to see–but imo It doesnt ‘set the tone’ for a bond with the child. I plan on adopting–does that mean because neither me nor my [future] husband were present to witness the child’s birth; we’d love it any less?

Im not really seeing how the glass room separating the father really makes a difference…I mean is he not still witnessing the birth? Is he not still able to cut the cord? Is he not still able to be the first one to hold the baby??

To FubuStyles…YYYAAAAWWWWNNNNNNNN…are you still responding to my every posting and comment? Damn…you need to get a real Life! This is nothing more than a simple debate, and as far as I can see, its over…but you just keep wishing and watching for my latest postings, huh? And you’re still boring me to death…

HELLLL No He Dont got No Rights And he Dont need 2 Be Lookin Down There Anyway anymore LOL So DEF. Not!!! He Can see The BABy AFTER Its been born. K.K??

I know I would want my husband there but a woman has a right to have the kind of birth she wants to the extent that she can control it and is safe for the baby. That is her RIGHT after nine months of sickness, soreness, stretch marks and other body changes. Plus for many moms the event is overwhelming as they are coming to the end of an era of a very special bond with the baby, attention that comes along with being pregnant and the reality that life from that point will be very different.
If the father will not be a help to her in the delivery room, or if she doesn’t want him there, he can visit the baby in the nursery as soon as its over. But pregnancy is about a mother/baby bond which is sacred and so is the event that brings that time to an end.
P.S.
This is the reason children should
not be born into broken relationships…this should be a non-issue. But people keep making babies with the guy or girl they think is “fine” instead of the one they wouldn’t mind spending forever with.

What is wrong with some of you people?! It’s the husband’s baby too, and the wife has no right to tell him when or where he can see his child. I agree with “Pink Diamond” to a certain extent. I still haven’t heard a rational explanation as to why some women don’t want their husbands in the delivery room. What does the husband have to do with jeopardizing the health or well-being of the baby unless he’s hindering the doctors and nurses from doing their job?!

Any man that dont’ show up or allow the chick to tell him no you can’t be there, 1 he is a bird and needs to man up 2 . he done choose the wrong chick – cause of the kid aint even out yet and she trying to keep you from seeing him/her arrive you might want to get the divorce or child support papers in order – she don’t respect you and don’t love what YOU both created – you are going to have a problem.

Speaking from my own exp people – HOMEY DONT PLAY THAT. Man you got to be involved from day one – they wiped my son off an handed him to me 1st and then I handed him to his momma – that was the best feeling in my life homey – nothings matches that – real talk. Even if you don’t mess with that chick no more – you don’t ever forget that bond. One

@EbonyBishop

I like your style, man. You’re short and straight to the point. I was telling some of these women that I’d be damned if my wife told me that I couldn’t see my own baby.

@Old_School – that’s the truth from the booth

Hmmm…I think its so simple…Any father who supports his womans pregnancy DEFINITELY has the right to be there…And any man who doesnt care to support his womans needs and appts and such during pregnancy doesnt deserve to be there…If you really care about the child in her stomach, then why not show it during the pregnancy as well…Its a no-brainer…Women always want their man in there when the man helps them through the difficulties of their pregnancy…Men sometimes act like “Its your pregnancy, I didnt have anything to do with it” while the child is in the mothers stomach, which is dead wrong. Any man who does that is already setting up a pattern of taking on only the easiest responsibilties, which usually continues on after the birth as well…And Im sure all the deadbeats out there will come out of the woodworks at that point, trying to debate me down and shut me up…Dont waste your time if you’re one of the deadbeats and abandoners Im talking about…You already know I dont give a f–k what YOU think…As to the dedicated dads out there who dont mind helping their woman out through the pregnancy…Stay strong for your families and your little ones, and you get much respect!

I second that.To men taking care of their families,taking fatherhood seriously,nothing but respect..But more than that,you will be rewarded the greatest gift.And thats respect from your children..

I don’t think that the woman has a choice in that matter if said man FATHERED the seed. People always state how the woman carries the child so the rights lay with the women, but if it weren’t for the man there would be no child.

I was there and assisted with the birth of all 3 of my sons, and I named all three of my sons/children.

To try and stop me from being there would have either caused me to die from fighting security or police, or land me in jail for mortally hurting someone for standing in my way.

What kind of question was this anyway?

Men, just be there and take care of your children.

I believe that if the father is supporting the woman through out the pregnancy then he deserves the right to be in the delivery room. He helped to bring the baby into creation and I think he deserves to see the baby born. To often women confuse their own heart ache or loathing for the father of the child to mean that however they feel is the “best interest of the child”, when in reality they are using the child to hurt the father and fill a void for their own hurt. Woman must learn to put their feelings aside and do what is best for the child and allow the fathers who want to be active to see their children and in this case witness their birth.

IF YOU ARENT TOGETHER , AND YOU DONT WANT HIM THERE..CANT A CHICK FINALLY GET HER WAY?? YOU CARRYING THE BABY BY YOURSELF ANY WAY CANT YOU PUSH THE BABY OUT IN PEACE!!JUS CUT THE CORD AND GET YA HANDS OFF MY BABY..TILL I SAY ITS OK!!

THESE WOMEN DID NOT WANT THEIR MEN IN THE ROOM FOR A REASON…ITS CALLED MITOCHONDRIAL DNA…AND IF IT WASNT FOR A WOMEN GIVING BIRTH TO EVRY LAST PERSON ON EARTH THERE WOULD BE NO PEOPLE, MEN DONT REALLY THINK LIKE “THEY ARE” HAVING A BABY AND CANT SAY “I AM ” HAVING A BABY..THATS BS…SO GET OUT THE BIRTHING ROOM..AND GET OUT THE WAY NOW..

I believe men should be there, unless chick is not sure who the dad is, and we all know how black chicks are.

@Caramel Curly

I’m going to say this to you one time and one time only. I’ve read your posts, and I must say that you really need to grow up. You don’t need to have any children by the way you’re sounding. I truly believe that you’re trying to start a confrontation here on this forum, and I think that I speak for the rest of these men on here when I say we’re not going for it! Maybe you shouldn’t post anything because you’re not really contributing anything positive to this discussion.

Sure if they can deal but they just gonna be a problem (getting sick and s**t) then hell no! lmao!

i was in the room when my daughter was born, wtf kinda question is that the only time the dad should not b allowed in the room is if 1 he is crazy and unpredictible 2 if he just doesnt want 2 b there ,and f kelis she no she wrong for taking all that money from nas she the reason why slim thug said those stupid comments about black women

Old_School, that’s your first mistake. You’re trying to think rational about this whole issue when it’s about emotion. The problem is that a lot of women are emotional which is on the opposite end of the spectrum. A lot of women feel that as soon as they get pregnant the man should be there to support them. I agree, of course, but if the man isn’t there for the entire time, don’t ban him. If he’s there for the last 3-4 months, what’s the problem? The problem is that some women NEED for the man to be there, not the baby. These women will say you’re not there for the baby, but its more about them getting attention. It can also be about having an upper hand for them once as men rule almost everything else in our society. Men make more money, get status easier, and don’t actually have to go through the pain of delivery. Maybe that’s why these women feel the baby is only theirs or primarily theirs. But that’s only hurting the men and the child, especially males. There’s nothing better to a child then when the child’s parents are telling him about the day he was born. When that child asks his mother about his father’s role in the delivery room, what are these women going to say? “He wasn’t there for me during the pregnancy so I wouldn’t let him in to greet you.” I’m sure that child, especially a boy, will understand (sarcasm).

Old_School, continuing on. Women are naturally emotional creatures. Take crystalclearNY for example. She was hurt in her past by a man or men. I’m sure at some time she had trust in that man or men in general. But when he didn’t live up to what she wanted, expected, or demanded, she started lashing out at men. I’m sure she is a pretty smart individual but is emotionally unstable. She feels that she needs to be in control because she has lost control of her previous relationship situation. She fights so hard to maintain that control that she has the right to push the other closest entity away…the father. These type of women have trust issues and are not emotionally sound. If you look at these posts, mothers are saying the man doesn’t have anything to do with the baby or pregnancy. I even read some silly post about if it wasn’t for women then there would be no babies. I guess sperm grows on trees. Without the man and the woman there can not be a child. Mothers are telling the fathers that they can’t be there for the birth of THEIR child, yet when there’s a divorce, women scream they demand half of the man’s earned money.

I really still feel it has nothing to do with the child. Its one of the most painful, humbling experiences a WOMAN can go through. So many things can happen, it needs to be a comfortable environment for the MOTHER. Its her body going through the torment and pain. Alot of women dont want to be seen in that way—pooping while giving birth, bloody, etc—Can you blame them???

I mean it is really a mother’s preference!! I dont see the difference in watching behind a damn glass window! Yall act like she is barring you from the hospital!

A man should most definitely be allowed to see the birth of his child regardless of the relationship he and the mother may have at the time. She wasn’t feeling that way when she decided to lay up with him and make the baby did she? Does a woman realize that without a man pregnancy couldn’t even occur? Some women are just unbelievable! Stop being selfish and think about the child. The baby’s father is there for the baby not you!

~Pr3ttyR3d~

Hi my name is Lawrence. I need someone to comment on my dilemma. My gf and I are going to be blessed with a son due on Oct. 26th. We were getting along for the first 5 months of her pregnancy. However, she was was living with me for 2 months from (MAY-JULY). There were no problems other than her over-bearing family constantly getting on my back on how I need to step it up as a man and show them that I can support her and my child. At the time I was not a Registered Nurse. At this point it was my third time taking boards. I took them in June and I had failed. When she told her family that I failed them. Her family began to exclude me when ever they invited her down to see them. I was very hurt. I still am, however when she went down to see them in mid July, and she told me they surprised her with a baby shower. Now, I wasn’t upset by her but at the fact that her family did this to possibly spite me and my family.

Anyway, we had a little argument. She told me if I made her upset one more time, that I would never see her or the baby. I said I was sorry and I thought it was okay. Well, she led me on through text messages on when she was coming back. She was supposed to return on July 30th because she stated that she had a dr’s appt and I wanted to make sure that we went together. Well, on July 28th, she shows up with her grandmother and uncle. They sort of ambush me and my family and they are screaming and cursing telling my father that this place is a dump and that we are here to collect Morgan’s belongings because she is moving out. My gf so desperately wanted to speak with me alone. So, we did and she had tears in her eyes and told me that this was only temporary. However, we both need jobs and I need to pass boards. She didn’t want this to happen but thought it would be better for her and our son if she moved back with her grandparents.

She moved out and 5 days later she files a false PFA against me and my father. Stating I was emotionally abusive and my father was cursing. This was all during my mother’s scheduled spinal surgery. It was not only stress that I displayed for my mom and now this? Well, me and my dad went to the hearing and she lost. She acted like a totally different person. She appeared at court with just her grandmother and they both dressed in halter tops, shorts, and sandals. My father and I were dressed in suits. She had this attitude and a chip on her shoulder. She periodically got short with the judge, which helped our case tremendously.

Anyway, me and her have not spoken in a little over 2 months. I thought I would send her an email stating that I don’t care what happens between us but I want to be there for her and my son at all costs. I said please do not deny me this write to see him. I said to her I don’t mean to be forward but the law states that I can and should be there to see him in the hospital. I said to her I trust she will make the right decision. I am hoping she responds. Although, I have doubts that she will even let me know when she is going into labor. It is a very sad state of affairs. I would really appreciate comments from anyone. Thank You

Sincerely, Lawrence RN

I am a 8 month pregnant woman. And my ex HAS not only emotionally, but physically abused me. He has not contacted me once about the pregnancy, has not asked once about the baby. But then thinks he has the right to be in the room. He hasn’t been there since I left the apartment when he got angry one night. I left with no money, no job, and no for sure place to go. SSure there are some fathers who do deserve to be in the room, but those are the fathers who actually ACT like fathers, not just two minute man’d there way into fatherhood. He will not be in the room for he has not been around my whole pregnancy.  So you people have to look at both sides of the story. While he has freedom, I have the responsibilities.

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This is just the new legal argument that men and women are equal in everything, including

pregnancy and childbirth. I’m sorry, treating two people in drastically
different situations exactly the same is not justice, it’s bigotry. A
man does not have a right to control a woman’s body or make her medical
decisions, even if those decisions have an effect on him. This comes up
with abortion as well. Men have the right to control their own
reproductive decisions. Once a man has ejaculated his biological role in
reproduction is done. A woman’s biological role in reproduction is not
complete until the child is weaned.

The man is responsible for his actions and decisions (deciding to have
sex, having sex, and risking fathering a child or deliberately fathering
a child). The man gets to decide whether or not he will father a child,
he doesn’t get to decide whether or not a woman will mother a child.

Same thing for the woman, she only has the right to make decisions about
her own biological role in the process (sex, pregnancy, birth, and
breast feeding). She doesn’t get to decide anything about the father. If
a woman impregnates herself through a sperm bank then the biological
father has no responsibilities to the mother or the child.

Another thing many people don’t know is that marriage gives you no legal
right to your spouse’s medical information. If you call up a doctor’s
office, hospital, or pharmacy and want to know what drugs your spouse is
taking or what procedures the medical staff are preforming

they can’t tell you without your spouse’s permission. I used to work in a
pharmacy and this was always a pain in the neck because most spouses
would share information but you never knew for sure.

As a practical matter the father may have to establish legal paternity
before the hospital will recognize his legal rights to the child. In
California a married man is legally the father of his wife’s baby even
if he is not the biological father, but an unmarried father has to make a
legal declaration of paternity before he can be put on the birth
certificate. At least according to the childbirth tour at the local
hospital.(The laws are different in every state.) Fortunately most
hospitals, at least in California will recognize an unmarried father.

Logically the person who assumes all the responsibilities and all the
risks is the person with the rights to make the decisions. What a baby
needs at birth is to be born. Assuming a father can give birth to the
baby, of course he has a right to be there. However it is not in the
interests of the child for the father to make the birth more difficult
by stressing out the person giving birth to the baby for the father’s
emotional benefit. The baby does not know, and will not remember who is
at the birth.

The father has rights to the child, but the father does not have rights
to the mother, even if they are married. Birth is a bodily function of
the mother. The father has no right to be present for her bodily
functions, and if the mother is getting medical care, he certainly has
no right to make her medical decisions or to be present for her medical
procedures.

Does the father have the right to see the baby in the hospital after it is born. Absolutely.

I will never understand why men expect to control women because women get pregnant.

It’s also worth noting that fathers attending the birth of their
children is a fairly new thing. Mothers and families had to fight very
hard to get the legal right for a wife to have her husband in the
delivery room even if she wanted him there. In some cultures birth is
still a woman only thing. A generation ago the idea of a husband seeing a
his wife in labor was degrading and an invasion of their privacy. Some
people were afraid that the man might not want to have sex with the
woman any more because he didn’t want to hurt her or put her life at
risk. (Of course that was a better argument before their were epidurals
and hormonal birth control.)

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