While the writer of this piece is certainly entitled to her own opinion, I think the authoress was smoking something :). First off, no “man” expects his woman to be the breadwinner…her definition of manhood is flawed if that’s the case.
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While there are always exceptions, it is generally black WOMEN who expect too much from black men. Many black women suffer from what is known as the “Chili Mentality”, entering into relationships with a lengthy “checklist” of things her man must have. While this is somewhat understandable if the woman is a beauty queen and a master chef with a great attitude, many average black women require the world of their mate. Truthfully speaking this is why so many black women are “30+ and single”–baggage from former relationships, kids and weight issues.

Women neglect to realize that men are very simple. If you are in shape, attractive, and have a good attitude, black men have NO problem committing and settling down. However you must be on top of your game. You cannot go outside looking like a pinto and expecting Bentley-style treatment, ladies.

boy this will be another 20+ page’s of comments!

Their all about themselves and ALL the things they say are wrong with us they have those EXACT same issues and then some.

egos WILL get harmed, no matter what….and has this author been sipping on shizzurp?????? I wonder…….

bullshyt bullshyt bullshyt i can make my own damn money what the fuk? Only a dysfunctional azz woman would post a garbage azz article like this. If some of these women would stop fukin with down low phaggot azz nicca’s this issue would’nt be a topic of discussion. From what i gather the black man is the one catching hell especiallly the ones that’s got full knowledge of himself and revolves from 360 degrees to 720. That’s the bruh that’s getting shytted on because alot of these women roll with propaganda and what is portrayed in the media as to what they feel what a black man should be. You can’t nueter or control a true living god with lies and deceit especially with that bullshyt dogma that they call religion.

Ok, this is complete and utter BS, all the things she listed of what men want are the exact things of what women want (not men). The things I want in a woman are simple, a woman who doesn’t complain or nag all the time, a woman who I can have fun with, and a woman who is attractive and can sex me up good. Simple!

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to quote west-coast lyricist RAS KASS (Soul On Ice remix)

“I want a woman with the body of a wh0re and a personality like Lauryn(Hill)” :)

Andre396 @ th’ankh you !!

at the end of the day it is the WOMBAN who chooses which males/men get to reproduce

choose LIONS instead of hyenas

men also need to have high standards cuz tooooooo many brothers out here chasing these scaliwags but f**k it to each his own lol

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@soulflares…it does seem like the dysfunctions of mindless infactuation over w***e bodies seems to be the latest craze. So with that being said, all the w***emongers come out to play with prostitutes of the world.

Hmmm…I think both Black Men & Women should discuss with their Partners what they’re expectations are BEFORE hopping into Bed with each other. Nowadays, its usually the Other Way around…people jumping in and out of different Beds playing on the STD Merry-go-Round (or hitting that HIV Jackpot!)…and then afterwards, remember that they dont know anything about this persons Beliefs/Values System/Background/or Expectations from the Relationship (if there EVEN is a relationship…) Casual Sex leads to A Chaotic Mess…even Marriages these days have become unbalanced & lost value to Many people. If expectations are not discussed beforehand, then it becomes a Roll of the Dice…and the direction/balance/trust/&values in the Relationship usually dont wind up Matching Up.

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physical attraction is only natural, but there’s gotta be MORE to it than just that

Andre396, Damn! You just got my vote!

Great post!!

I honestly feel that this article has a lot of relevance. Have you ever surveyed a black household circa de 1980…the woman cooks, cleans, has the kids a majority of the time, works and is expected to throw down in bed, and still not have an attitude. Honestly as the media continues to display deplorable images of black women and men…women expectations become lowered and men become more disgusted by their black women. We need to pull back and look at what is happening to our communities. Take control of the situation and work hard to create healthy, reciprocal, happy relationships. Pay Attention ppl… no one is pointing the blame but everybody NEEDS TO STEP IT UP A TAD. I know my partner and I will. -Black Love-

To the black_yurizan dude I gotta ask if you want a woman that doesnt complain or nag…what do you bring to the table that would keep things easy and comfortable between you and your girl? If you say some dick…you have proved to be apart of the problem and not the solution.

Flyness_Author
I hate when guys go to the extreme. SO just cause a woman is not looking like Rihanna she is not deserving of LOVE? WRONG!!! And women need to have a good attitude? Last time I checked Black Men have some attitude issues themselves. We can point fingers all day long but have you tried to really see what the article was speaking on…couldnt have. Doesnt even look like you read the whole thing. The bottom line is black women are so not built like Sarah and Jill…. we don’t have bad attitudes we have strong minds, and fierce discernment and if you equate that to a bad attitude, I feel sorry for you. June Clever is dead. Why is being “simple” an acceptable phrase thats thrown around like its the answer to all the questions of a man’s behavior. Let’s stop the finger pointing and point to healing. -Black Love

The answer to this question is no. Black BOYS expect too much from women but Black MEN are burden bearers. We don’t place expectations on anyone but ourselves.

This article if full of shyt… I have always taken care of home and my ex ran out and do what it do.. My thing is if your not in school or have a job then take care of the house. If have a job then share the work load 50/50. I expect a woman to be a woman. In my experiences real talk I have ran into some lazy women and some productive women…. In most of the females eyes I have dated and been with expects me to walk with the burden while they relax and be treated like queens… I dont have a problem treating a female like a female so when I want to be treated like a king I should be able to get that no questions asked.

I notice that all these men are talking about physical appearances, when they them selves are not in shape. Why is this?
Don’t talk the talk walk th walk. I know that i am a good educated hard working woman. and all I get is disrespect, and as for the nagging that I don’t believe in. If the relationship is right why nag, i starts with what we don’t have for eachother anymore, and that’s respect.

This is always funny to hear. Reason being when a woman that says that she wants a good man and actually happens to receive one, she is the one who acts stuck up or either full of herself and pushes the man away. If this for some odd reason doesn’t take place, than you are stuck to deal with either an attitude or someone who always claims to busy and wants you to go out of your way to chase her. I personally think that I am a great catch (not being egotistical) but just because I have a life, have my priorities in line, and last but not least act and dress like my mother raised me the right way, this is what I am stuck to deal with.
So after seeing this is not a stereotype but actually subsequently the case with most African American females, most men are lead to date other races. Mostly the latino women are the first chose, or for some others who like them, white women. I hope I am wrong on this but primarily this is not the case.

I have found I have the most problems when he does NOT communicate WHAT he expects of me. I like to know what Iam getting into, & I let him know what I expect, yet, if it is not said, then, I will not bother.

Hmm.. I see someone has been smoking too much GANJA!.. Not talking about the person that wrote the article either..Lol

wow thats the sht she was jus talking about being compare to other women races that is..Y’all want black women to be in shape, but i see black men with 300 pound white women daily, so they get a fat pass huh..an i see black women in all sizes not jus fat…

so many black men have very stank attitudes,so is that the pot calling the kettle black!!

It’s just a two way street woman in general expect a lot from a man so why cant a man have the same expectations, if the man don’t expect anything from you, you maybe not his woman on that level like wise from a woman view. Just my opinion

Greetings,

Just in my professin alone I see, and not all BlackMen. Because the ones that are not BlackMen are simply BlackMales.

I happen to chase mostly men for Child suppor tnad to take care of the kids.

My idea is that BlackWomen have been he mule for this race for a long time and now we are seeing the results.

No way can a Black Lady Take care or raise a boy to a man. they try as hard as they can but to no avail.

I mentor kids and try to teach them the importance of being a MAN. All the way around, wheher it be husband, father.

Everyday, I see males (black?)in Miss applying for food stamps as much as Females. You notice I didnt say Women.

Most of these Males are between 25 through 55 years old. At my age of 46, I remember that you couldn’t give a black MAN nothing. He worked for what he got.

My father was a drunk but still had enough sense to take care of his family, but to me My mother was the leader of that house hold because when she died my family went astray.

Yes the Bible says that the Man of should be the head of the Household but he cannot being a drunk, etc.

Its really time for our BLACK MEN to step it up and take care of our kids as well as our significan others on a teamwork basis.

I remember clearly, a Black Woman would raise those kids by themselves if they have too even with out a Man in the Life.

Maybe we as Black Males, have gotten used to this and expect it when that shouldn’t be that way.

Respectfully
Gunny USMC, retired

@Flyness_Author you hit the nail right on the head! Preach on my brother!

I’m surprised good ol’ Califemme23 doesn’t have more to say on this (we need your insight!!!You know you got more to say than that)…but enough shout outs…Great post. I agree that some of the guys I know expect too much from women (not just black, but women in general)….BUT (before the fellas get upset)…the examples listed in this article are what I usually hear from WOMEN (not just black women)…And not just a woman who may be a love interest…mothers, sisters, aunts, cousins….maybe it’s just the women I deal with or am related to, but they all have that “Chilian Checklist” @Flyness_Author was talking about. I obtained a degree, cook, clean, nurture feelings, repair the house, pay bills,and do the intimacy thing (for my lady)….but besides intimacy, the rest is never enough…no matter what we do, women seem to want it all…someone chew my head off about this post and prove me wrong.

but please have proof

I think its the other way around. They expect too much from us!!!!

I wouldn’t expect a woman to give me EVERYTHING to me, because she can’t ( I can cook. clean and shop like THEY do), but I do expect communication, affection and freakiness in a relationship, but those who expect everthing from a man you CAN get it, but keep in mind the guy leaving you, you being lonely, and others won’t be dating you in the future is just around the corner…..

In the past 3 years I have heard some of the most undeserving comments from my woman. Her demands, while I won’t name them, are outrageous, and she dead serious about not being satisfied until I meet them. My lady doesn’t have to do anything domestic, I was raised right, I can keep my house clean, I cook, manage finances, etc. She has demands created in her mind that she cant live without. What is it that I expect from her? Undeserved entitlement? really, from guys? I don’t agree, its women, who read essence, and watch celebs and sweat their lifestyle. Men? I see men with some of the most undesireable women, because they hate the pretty girl headaches. They don’t wanna deal with shallowness, the copycat girls, who want exactly what they friends have. This whole barbie garbage going on have certain overweight/underweight women thinking they barbie! Guys are not doing this? So your question should be put to the Women and have guys respond. Not cool trying to switch up whats actually going on in the world today. A dude can date a broke chick and he’s helping her, a girl date a broke dude, and whats that, oh she’d never date a broke dude…lol I rest my case. Men a way more tolerant, women are the ones with great expectations. Down to the dick size…

first of all, let me say this. no one can point the finger at others until you are right within yourself. secondly, black women out that are working, going to school, maintaining their households whether it be taking care of their kids or family members, most men will not give them the time of day. They we would prefer to do more for a woman who is on foodstamps, section 8, welfare, etc; i am in no way of envy of these women but lets be real. I haven’t seen a good man since my grandfather which married my grandmother with 3 kids and he had 2 and they had 4 more together. They struggled, rised and conquered with each other. Todays men and women are afraid of a struggle, before they do that, they will window watch, purchase and others will creep over someones ‘grass’ just to see if its greener. As far as other races, they were raised to do this and that, which is why they accept so much.. they waiting for the bucks to start rolling in or they do what they do just for the money..prime example, celebrities duh. Now within the black race, beauty is a 50/50 thing, just ask Halle Berry, but then again she mixed.. never mind that. Some of the men comments were good, but i wonder if they were just a front, know what im saying. As a race that is on the verge of whippin out (other races are invading and cashing out on our men), we need to spend more time of lifting each other up and accepting one another flaws, not tearing down others cuz they do not fit the size 0 look or have caked up make up that will cause serious acne/facial problems or just because they will not drop down and give head as quickly as others would. How about courtship? Going to the doctor to see if each other are std free? Staying up late helping them study whether its for school or a job promotion.. Come now, we are the ONLY race that has the worst statistic as far as accomplishing something besides receiving an extra 300 dollars on their foodstamp cards or how many babies we already have. Stop giving up on each other. The major thing(s) we need as people of color is communication, devotion, dedication, prayer and GOD, understanding, humor, real love for one another, teamwork (there’s no i in team or me, only if you talking about meat and we arent talking about food), honesty…stopping there.

I Think i expect a Black Women to support me as i support her.But i do think sometimes we both expect too much from each other and sometimes thats not a bad thing because we should expect great things for ourselfs befroe we can expect anything from anyone else.But alot of my brothers are claiming white women as their spousessometimes due to the fact that alot of white women dont challenge a black man like a black women challenges us black men.another question is ARE BLACK MEN LIVING UP TO THE EXPECTATIONS OF BLACK WOMEN???
Another question that i want to know from black women is do black women know what it takes to keep a Black Man Happy VICE VERSA,and do black women know how to let her blck man be a man just like does that Black Man know how too let his Black Women be a Women!!!!!

lol who would waste time leaving comments on this crap lol please some real useful news! who writes this bull, no life person? need to get a life quick! next black folk question please??

LOL @ Soooooodamsexy……I agree, this is a waste. I usually don’t attack people but it sounds like HB has s**tty luck with men. I grew up in a household where both men and women were equal. My grandfather had a job, cooked cleaned as well as my grandmother, and the same with my Father and Mother. They met each other halfway on everything, but now and days everything is “gimmie gimmie” not wanting to help each other.

I have an observation that I want to share. I’ve come to the conclusion that the some Black men expect far too much from Black women. Far more than what they are willing to give themselves. Again, this is some men, not all.

The only conclusion I have from reading this article is, this is an experience you have had to deal with in your life or have seen it first hand from someone you know. Black men only expect what you allow them or him to do.

The problem stems from the idea that Black women are expected to fill many roles. We are expected to be a homemaker, breadwinner, lover, counselor, be mentally advanced, but not so advanced that it makes them uncomfortable.

Since there is a shortage of good men willing to step up and take responsibility for their actions women tend to do all those things by themselves already. The package is already made for many black men to step in and take. Some women allow this to happen because something is better than nothing. But this is only an opinion.

We are also expected to understand their needs and to be able to find an appropriate way of approaching them about it without harming their egos. All in a day’s work right?

A strong man can accept a straiting from a strong black woman on any subject and his ego shouldn’t matter when it comes to being right or wrong but this is not reality for some people again the problem goes to what you allow them to think or act when your with a certain type of man.

In the end, most women are taking care of their business already and men tend to be the benefactors of their hard work. Black woman have, know what you want, and how it should be package but when you accept anything in life, that is what you will get.

HB is still trying to divide the black man and black woman huh? Ima break it down for some of yal (I read the comments and this don’t include the folks that see thru this bulls**t).

It aint got nothing to do with a blackman expecting too much or a blackwoman expecting too much. It all points to you and the person you deal with. If you dating somebody and you spoiling them from the start, they going to expect the samething if you get in a relationship with them. You showing them what you can do for them before you even show them before you show them you personality.

When me and my wife 1st started dating, we talked about what we were looking for in a mate, not what we can do for eachother. So the only thing we expect out of eachother is being a backbone for one another.

Do black people eat eggs? do black women drink water? lord! whos cares! lol, next question going to be do black women like big or small dicks! lol. well i know my answer to that lol. next black question stay tuned!

BLAH BLAH BLAH…..BORRRRINNNNG ! ! !

There is no question women expect more from men.
A woman once told me that her hair, nails, feet and toes were my responsibility! I told her my son, my rent, my bills, and my own damn haircut was my responsibility! Women expect way too much. They think giving up p*ssy justifies asking for everything.

Yawning……….BORING…………SO HOW ABOUT THOSE STEELERS THIS YEAR, ARE THEY GOING TO MAKE THE PLAY OFFS?………..

not really, men of all races expect the same things from thier women…black women i dont know about yall!! ive heard black women say their a different species from black men..when u hear that its time to move on to some different women

Again here we go again, as you preferenced the argument by saying “some” men and that’s simply what it is “some” men. I’ve grown sick and tired of this belief that black men are in some way so fragile that we can’t handle a women being successful or having more success than we do. There’s no problem associated with success it’s just that with many black women that are successful they have an attitude along with that success and many of us are turned off by it. As long as it’s not thrown in our face or used to leverage the amount of power in the home then it’s not a problem with most of us but in many cases this isn’t so. Most of the time I have made more than the women I’ve been with but I don’t throw it in their face about my success and their lack of success. For real I would love to meet someone that has more success than I do then I wouldn’t have the burden of holding down more then I can concentrate on doing more to better myself to help to contribute more in the relationship, it’s all about both people giving 100% in a relationship and never becoming complacent and keeping the ambitious drive and somewhat of a friendly competitive drive just to keep each other focused and moving in that positive direction. It just makes me angry when I keep hearing that we/us black men are scared or intimidated by a strong and/or successful black women and it makes most of us mad as hell to keep hearing that.

All we want is for black woman to find her own idenitity and stop copying white woman looks then call herself “pretty” Thats not good for the little girls of color selfesteem Stop tryin to get little girls and black men used to black women looking fake white we want our women of color back and real not fake. Practice a cute natural, Give your hair and that hotcomb a rest. Women of color is not “pretty” these days till she hangs some fake white look shyt off on her head looking like BOZO the clown… And have some respect for yourself…you don’t have to look like a white woman hoochie to be cute… Remember white people are laughing at you not with you they know you are jealous of white women’s hair. We love our women of color natural and beautiful. Why do you think your hair is falling off like Naomi’s ??? And stop being baby mama’s you know if that man is gonna be there or not…If he not then go ahead and fuk the bum but don’t get pregnant silly cracks, Then you are stuck with the bum for the next 18 years. All we want is a real woman of color and one that makes good decisions and one that respects herself. Is that too much to ask for??? Black women will talk about the black men…But who raised these black men ??? Black woman thats who, Whats that say about you. Don’t have baby’s if you are smart enough to know that that boy is not going to raise them rats with you. And stop copying other races to be “pretty” Women of color with a natural is more fun she not always checkin her fake white look in the mirror. You fake white black women make black men look at and date white women, we figure why get a fake white black women when we may as well get a real white woman, Your fault.

No, I do not think Black men expect too much from Black women. What we really hope for from our women is that they support us instead of allowing racist America to convince them to “wear the pants” to cause discord and division among ourselves. The Irish, Italian, Jewish and Asian women all stand behind and support their men. Black women are the one group that will not.

Interesting enough topic. I feel that black men want to treat us like their children. I call it “I’m your daddy” syndrome. Sometimes we women need a little space. Expecting us to have their back is not much to ask. Women have to be versatile and willing to change and grow with their men’s needs and desires.(only if it is for the best)My ex wanted me to go to nursing school but I had no desire to go back to school. That was for the benefit of us and our future. I should have listened. That was not much to expect from me. It would have been to my betterment. It is not wrong to expect good from your woman as long as it is within reason. thank you

I DO think black men expect too much from black women. I could talk about a lot things but I will just touch on one:

the whole idea of self-sufficiency… a lot of men are raised by women and have no men in their lives to teach them how to wash and iron their clothes, to cook(balanced)meals, or how to clean their homes! So when they hook with a woman they end up looking to her to do it.
I cringe when I hear a grown ass man saying something like: “I need a woman to take care of the house”!!!!
I tell every woman with sons that I meet to teach their sons to be sufficient… to be the type of man YOU would like to be married to…his wife will thank you!

Hell no. We dont expect enough if you ask me. Complain complain and complain. Thats the black women’s specialty. They either complain too much, want the world given to them without bringing anything to the table but a fat butt and/or are so independent that they dont know how to be in a relationship. Why must we adjust….black women need to get off their high horses and do something that they’ve never done. COMPROMISE.

@ ILostABet77! You toke the words right outta my mouth bruh… Well said!

Hay mrbluesays, you are right………you can not cheat nature, black or white, keep your complexion, all are works of God.

Really, life is too short to think about if the black man wants a white woman over the black womaa. Speaking from a black woman’s perspective, feel good about the skin you’re in, treat yourself with respect and dignity and who caress what a particular black man wants. If you want a black man, then associate with a black man that wants an appreciates you and vice versa. I work around white woman all day and I get looks you wouldn’t believe. I doon’t wear weave, a bunch of makeup or the fake nails. Trust e, tey are intimiate a well. They are shocked when a naturally beautiful black woman is walking proud and looking good. As black as she is. (ME)

How about they reverse this question.

I agree with the post. I blame some of it on the black mothers who don’t expect much from their sons but give them everything. But when it comes to their daughters they expect much and give little. Thank goodness for Daddys!

I think physical attraction is key to a successful relationship thus the laws of attraction. I understand wanting a woman for her heart is essential but it’ll be nice if the attraction and the heart goes hand and hand.

Yes… “some” men do. “Some” men do a lot of various things, just like the types of women vary. Let’s quit worrying about those who we don’t even care to deal with and focus that time, energy, etc. on the type of people we actually do. Also, use some to assure you have everything together yourself. “Some” people don’t have their s**t together and wonder why they can’t seem to find someone good. Good men (and women) exist… they just may not want you. LoL

If you count shout the f*ck, get me a sandwich, and spread’em…then NO..

I meant shut the F*ck up, yall no what I meant fellas!!!

@1lostbet77
100% in agreement on that.

defintely yes, but i’m sure they’d say the same about us. We are both 2 hard on each other.. generally speaking Bw want that flawless thug/familyman/with a heart all in one while Bm want a Model Robot of a wife, esp. if she’s BLACK, she’s Got to be dam near perfect cuz if not, trust me…he will let you know!! and even wants her stay that way 4ever despite him aging,getting bald and gaining weight later in the marriage. :-). BM still want that Modelcoke bottle chick at 50 when they are a played out Mr. Ruckus lol just so Unrealistic!! Annd young Blk Males.are really harsh round my way. when we aim…we aim 2 high . ALOT of Bm are very harsh with black women but more gentle with non-black women ..i’ve seen it in so many cases and its all boils down to haterd for thyself/blackness. I dont kno whether to slap them or pray for them.. i’d like to do both LOL. Let’s get it 2gether PLZ before it is too late!!!!

I guess that depends on how one view that, but according to how and what the rappers are saying you can say yes. I hear how the men want you to have a bad shape, toes pedicured, nails pedicured, hair long and done. When you hear that and see some men with stomachs like they are 12 1/2 months pregnant that is when you say really. It should be 50/50 and ppl need to realize that what we see and think is perfect keep in mind airbrushing is popular nowadays. If a person can evaluate their mate knowing that the true key things they should expect for being that good man is having bath water ran, a good back rub and a hot a meal then the expectations shouldn’t be so high. Some women not all are more affectionate and more giving to men and in order to make a man happy some women will do what she feel is right to take care of her man but men don’t always see it that way when it is their turn.

also there’s some brothaz who want the treatment of a King but don’t put out the service of a King to his people. WTF i’m so tired of hearing about this natural/weave debate.. people act like when you wear weave u ALWAYS MUST want to be white and hate yourself. I’m so sick of this stereotype w/ BW and our hair. I wear weaves, if I really wanted to be white I’d be buying skin cream 2 be lighter. Your hair doesn’t define you, I got thick natural coarse hair and still wear my weaves.. i dont get how society automatically assumes I want to be or look like someone I’m not. fashion is fashion…and we as women love variety in our styles.

man it’s simple alot of blackwomen don’t know what men want besides knowin he wants sex…this is where the complications kick in alot of sistas mothers never raised them to be housewives instead they raised them to be independent women!!! which is why you have all this clashing……sistas better start listning to monique. before miss becky starts fryin chickin.

WakaFlocka C Becky is frying chicken cornbread, pigfeet, collard greens and anyother dish they think black men may fancy…What are u talking about?? lol its already happening . Weaves will be next…yes NOT on black women weaves… the same thing many black men are so-called digusted with…LOL wait and see.. and also if i cut my hair short, does that mean I want to be a man?? esp if i dye it blond, now does that make me a white male wannabe?? or if i decide to wear pigtails one day does that mean i want to go back being a lil’ girl?? thats ridiculous

@smokez2k1-You sound like your smoking on something with that comment. I bet the only thing you do in your relationship is sit on the couch and play the game or maybe take out the trash.

@Ilostbet77-Im sure you did and lost what little bit of brains you had left on that comment.

@Waka-flocka-c-Its boys like you and the two above who don’t know what the hell you want in a relationship and ya’ll expect to much out of the black woman and look to gain alot from other race of women. Like the saying go DON’T ASK FOR THINGS YOU CAN’T BRING TO THE TABLE YOURSELF…FROM LOOKS DOWN TO SEX AND PAYING BILLS. YOU CAN’T EXPECT A DIME WHEN YOUR A$$ IS LOOKING LIKE 2CENT. BLACK MEN DO EXPECT TO MUCH FROM THE BLACK WOMAN…ya’ll look for the black woman to cater to your every need from sexy looks to sex,down to the way we eat sleep and fart…to the way we talk/walk and carry ourself the style of dress to the make-up on our face down to our toes. Ya’ll black men want it all the cooking cleaning and doing all the school events with the kids,and paying the bills. Even putting up with your fake a$$ friends. Now back to the question-Do Black Men Expect Too Much From Black Women? HELL YEAH THEY DO…just look at the topic of is fat thick and read some of the boys comments and how they talking mad sh!t and be looking like a cross between a pitbull and a cow. Yet they want a dime piece. C’mon now get the fu(k out of here with that bullsh!t MOST of you boys do EXPECT way more than what your willing to put in a relationship.(JMOARTY)

@Wacka-flocka-c Becky might can cook some chicken but can she cook a REAL SOUL FOOD MEAL? I guess since you threw that in its only fair that I say…I guess alot of black women will be turning to Jim-Bob since he got his own house,job,car,money,and not living with his mama,aunt,grandma,or babymama. On top of that he don’t mine paying bills on time with good credit. KML :)

Yea They Do!! 2 Be That perfect 10 They had Admitted that ish On black men Revealed… Cuz THEY kno BECKY Will NeVER BE

blackable good post!
“SOME” black men expect too much from black women. YES! YES! YES!
As already stated evaluate where you are in life and your own accomplishments and expectations in a companion. Ask yourself whether you are really willing/ able to bring what you expect from your mate to the table. You want a woman to be educated, work, pay bills, cook, clean, give you sex “often”, look like she stepped off a runway 24/7, have a Janet Jackson stomache, hour glass figure, stroke your ego “constantly”, act as a personal psychologist, mind reader, mother to your children, have your back & remain 100% faithful to you and only you? Can you say that you are willing and able to do all of the above things yourself? Some of you men are never happy! You can have a beautiful queen that loves you at home, willing and able to be the woman that you “claim” to seek in a relationship and still run your trifling azz to the other side of the pasture because you think its greener OR you have that addiction to new P^ssy! Lets keep it real. Beautiful women get cheated on as well.Look at Halle Berry and the list goes on and on!Yes attraction often plays a part but it won’t keep a relationship together long term.You have to find things beyond just the physical that you like and respect in oneanother. Some of you men seeking video chick type women look a hot azz mess, and have the audacity to be overly critical of how a woman looks! You have the men that are so insecure and desperate that they have to flaunt what they have (material wise, money) to catch the attention of the type of women taht they constamtly salivate over, because they know that the chick wouldn’t look twice at them if they didn’t! You can like what you like , but work on yourself, and become a better YOU before you try to talk sideways about the next person.
Some men want the worls but offer little to nothing in return, just an attuitude of entitlement.

To New Era Web Designs…Both of those postings you put up on July 24th at 12:31pm & 12:28 are Right On the Money! Tootoo True…and tootoo Sad, as well…But at least you Noticed!

Hmmm…Damn, HB…What ever happened to that “30 Influential Black Men that We Should Know About” article, to accompany the two about 30 Women we should know about? Not fair, I say…lets see some Men of Color who ARE doing the right thing…Again, what Happened to that atricle, HB…? Hmmm…?

I think the pendulum swings both ways in this instance. I think the unrealistic requirements put on the opposite gender are too much. If I meet a brother riding the bus whose head to class or his job, or better yet career. I’m not gonna knock him because he’s on the bus. If a man meets a hardworking woman who has a child but is a good mother and educating herself and working, why judge her based on the fact she has a baby. Lots of things have placed a divide between black men and women and media is the garbage feeder pumping things up!

Both man and women need Men in their lives.

Nonsense. Most guys only want poon and a home-cooked dinner, MAX! Unfortunately, what our women of the past showcased skills in being able to do with pride, our women today are too good to do- therefore this nonsense about how men expect too much. I think it’s the other way around.

It’s actually the opposite.

No matter what either sex expects, if they don’t find what they’re looking for, they will lower their standards or keep looking. If you’re fine with who you are, people will have to accept that-or get lost.

who cares what men want?! thats what’s wrong w/ women today thinking men are all gifts from god and not thinking of themselves as worthy. guess what ladies, when u begin to think of urself as the sht, carry urself like u are the sht, men chase you down, throw themselves at you, sniff the ground you walk on lol

i tottallly agree with CAROLINAGIRLSRDABEST…..

LMAO @ some of these comments; just what I expected–black folks doing what they do best. Can’t advance in sh1t else but these feelings and divisions sure stay permanent and strong.

My answer is NO. I expect alot, cuz i give alot and more in return.

who wrote this messy ass article ? designed to keep black folks argueing.. i say this dont expect nothing from anyone that you cant and will not do ya self…. ( in other words, dont expect a rich prince when you dropped outta school to have some babies and get on welfare)

@ odoggz I hear what you are saying but brother recognize that most sisters are doing at least 40 hrs a week at work taking care of home is a job in itself( like running a business) not to mention all these sexual tricks we must be ready to do at the drop of a dime to supposedly keep a man from running away( yeah right) I say this, IF YOU WANT A HOME COOKED MEAL 3 TIMES A DAY AND SEX AS IF SHES A PORN STAR…. SHE EITHER NEEDS TO BE ASTAY AT HOME MOM OOOOR YOU NEED TO HIRE HER A MERRY MAID TO COME IN ONCE OR TWICE A WEEK. A SISTA GOTTA BE RESTED UP TO SWING FROM CEILING FANS AND S**T AT NIGHT LOL LOL LOL !!!!

Def Agree Wit kashi HANDS DOWN

The woman just put a bunch of different mens expectations for a women together to make it seem like there are men that expect everything from a woman. Please cut the BS. If women knew how little a man expected from a woman especially compared to the list of 40 things a woman wants from men, you would say men are simple. Since women already say that I guess theres nothing to argue about. Men don’t get what they want from a woman because those simple things semm to be impossible for most of todays women.

@kashi101
Most american black women already think they’re the s**t and still men don’t react that way to them. I don’t think telling black women to be anymore conceited then they already are is the answer. Maybe if more women knew where there true value came from but they don’t.

It’s time for the ladies to do a little homework. Women never want to acknowledge the truth when it comes to their responsibilities on these subjects. Now you can go check 10-20 personal pages on BP of SINGLE MEN AND WOMEN age 25-40. Now read the personal message/about me section of the men. See how many men actually make DEMANDS about the type of women they want to meet and what they expect. Then go read the pages of the women. GUARANTEED the women will have all types of demands that they expect the man they want to meet to be. That alone should convince the women that you clearly EXPECT more from men. Peace.

Even if the guy does EVERYTHING for their lady, hey will STILL end up with less in the realitionship all the way down to the booty…damned if you do,damned if you don’t……

black people jus dont know how 2 treat each other period lol

the funny thing is niccas alwayz want their women 2 be perfect but if a woman cares about looks when it comes 2 dudes then she’s wrong…………….interesting

Jayla1990
The list of things men want from women is about 5 sentences deep, and they are supposed to be simple things. For some reason for most women today those things are impossible. If a man can’t find those simple things out of you he’ll ask you for everything else to make up for it.

Where on earth do you find women that don’t care about mens looks. I used to be overweight I know for a fact how much looks matter. People have to be attracted to each other, It’s natural. Women do a whole bunch of extra sh$t just to inpress other women not men. I don’t care what color your nails are, or if your bag matches your shoes. If you see a woman with an ugly guy you know his money is pretty.

I LOVE my black women understand LOVE! I expect nothing more than what she can bring to the table, 5, 20, 40 etc I’ll make up for the difference thats partnership.

@Paneiro1-No disrespect to you…on this comment you said
(The list of things men want from women is about 5 sentences deep, and they are supposed to be simple things. For some reason for most women today those things are impossible. If a man can’t find those simple things out of you he’ll ask you for everything else to make up for it.
Where on earth do you find women that don’t care about mens looks. I used to be overweight I know for a fact how much looks matter. People have to be attracted to each other, It’s natural. Women do a whole bunch of extra sh$t just to inpress other women not men. I don’t care what color your nails are, or if your bag matches your shoes. If you see a woman with an ugly guy you know his money is pretty)
and I have to say this must be what you want because not all men wants nor what they expect from a woman is 5 sentences deep as you put it…they want more and when you give them more they want something else until you get to the point you say some black men don’t know what the hell they want out of a relationship. On top of that I for one will date a fat man and a broke man,and if he is what they call ugly I will date him too. Yet some black men want they go for the catch of the day a dime piece. Me and a few of my friends have been out and guys would turn away because they look at my friend as if she is a nobody and had the nerve to ask why would a dime piece like you hang around phat girls. I had to check his a$$ but still he said,it. I don’t claim myself as a dime nor will I ever fake like im so much better than the next black woman nomatter her size. Point is most men will and they will say the same thing…I expect my woman to be and the list go on and on.(JMOARTY)

They expect definitely too much!!
it seems like the housekeeping, all the cooking and all the wild sex isnt never enough for them!always something is missing!they cant appreciate it that the blk woman does more than enough to please the blk man!!even with 2 or 3 jobs and 3 kids to handle at home the blk woman will always find time to be there for her king but the blk man always got something to complain!!!smh…

@carolinagirlsdabaddest
Those guys want to F#ck You, there’s a difference. If a man is just looking for women to f#ck then he cares not about anything of real value. A man who seeks romantic interests are usually less shallow. Even if he wants a “dime peice” his list of needs will still be about 5 sentences deep or a little more. It’s not about my list it’s what most men seek when they’re looking for a girlfriend I talk to men about this all the time even the biggest playas have similar needs from a woman, it surprises me. Most of the time if you find a man who cares where your shoes or bag came from or where you got your nails done he’s looking for your brother not you. Most men who are romance seekers find their needsin things with real value.

@paneiro

there’s a difference between being arrogant vs. self-confident. confidence isn’t something you can fake. it shines forth. confidence flaunting in whatever her skin, her attributes, her accomplishments is what attracts men or attracts anyone for that matter. people respect and admire and appreciate confidence

Kashi101
Self confidence is great but women should keep humble attitudes. From a common human male stand point men like humble people in general not just women, men like women with humility it’s actually an attractive feature If we’re talking about men who seek romance. There are one women who dip into certain sub cultures in society usually preserved for men and blend in because of their humility and men drool over these women.

sometimes i think they don’t expect enough. some of these men out here have babies with women that they know are no good. some men have low standards

HOW LONG WILL RAGE AGAINST OUR SELVES.

IT’S NOT ABOUT WHAT WE EXPECT; AS A BLACK MAN, IT’S ABOUT WHAT WE DON’T EXPECT. WE DON’T EXPECT TO BE SLEEPING WITH THE ENEMY. WE DON’T EXPECT TO HAVE OUR SEED POISNED AGAINST US. WE DON’T EXPECT TO HAVE OUR CHARACTER ASSASINATED IN FRONT OF GOD AND THE ENTIRE PLANET. WE DON’T EXPECT FOR YOU TO TURN STATES EVIDENCE AGAINST US AND RETURN US TO THE PLANTATION AFTER WE’VE COME SO FAR. WE DON’T EXPECT FOR YOU ALL TO REFUSE TO REMAIN FULLY DRESSED IN PUBLIC. WE DON’T EXPECT THAT JUST BECAUSE YOU SPEND YOUR INCOME ON HORSE, INDIAN AND JAPANESE HAIR THAT WE CAN’T RUN OUR FINGERS THROUGH IT. WE DON’T EXPECT TO HAVE OUR CHILDREN AND OUR FUTURE ABANDONED AND LEFT HOME ALONE BECAUSE YOU WANT TO KEEP UP WITH THE JONES. WE DON’T EXPECT THAT IF THINGS FALL APART THAT YOU WILL ABORT OUR SEED AND DEFEND A WOMANS RIGHT TO DO SO. WE DON’T EXPECT TO HAVE OUR INTIMATE BUSINESS PUBLISHED IN THE CIRCLE OF YOUR SISTERHOOD. WE DON’T EXPECT FOR YOU TO BE DISLOYAL, MANIPULATIVE AND UNFAITHFUL WE DON’T EXPECT FOR YOU TO CHOOSE US IF WE ARE NOT QULIFIED….

NO NO NO YOUNG LADY.

IT’S NOT ABOUT WHAT WE EXPECT.

IT’S ABOUT WHAT WE DON’T EXPECT.

PLEASE CONFESS SOME MORE.

EXACTLY WHAT NOW IS YOUR, I MEAN, OUR RESPONSIBILITY?

AT THE END OF THE DAY EACH GENERATION PICKS UP WHERE THE LAST GENERATION LEFT OFF.

IN MY OBSERVATION AND THROUGH THE EXAMINATION OF OUR HISTORY, POST PHYSICAL SLAVERY; WHILE ALL OTHER NATIONS AND PEOPLES ARE UNITED IN FOCUS TO ADVANCE TECHNOLOGY WE REMAIN MIRED IN THE MUD, ADVANCING NOTHING MORE THAN OUR ABILITY TO ARTICULATE OUR DISTRUST AND HATRED FOR EACH OTHER.

TO MY NUBIAN BROTHAH’S, BEING A MAN MEANS MUCH. WHAT IT DOES NOT MEAN IS TO ENTERTAIN OR FOLLOW SILLY WOMAN.

TO MY NUBIANS SISTAH’S, THE BLACK WOMAN DOES NOT NEED TO EVOLVE. ALL SHE NEED DO IS SUBMITT TO GOD’S ORIGINAL DESIGN FOR HER;

MOTHER OF CIVILIZATION
QUEEN OF THE CASTLE

WE AS A PEOPLE NOW POSSES THE RESOURCES TO REGAIN OUR THRONES YET CHOOSE TO REMAIN AFFLICTED, DESPERATE AND DESOLATE.

LET US ALL STAND UNITED IN CONTEMPLATION AND TAKE IN THE WORDS OF THE LATE MICHAEL JACKSON.

THERE IS A MAN IN THE MIRROR.

PLEASE DON’T TELL ME; THAT HE’S PERFECT.

FOREVER THY GUIDE, DEIFIC MIRROR
KEEPER OF THE FLAME AND ETERNAL BONDSMAN

Prince Nova

I agree with jayla1990

Thank you for this article, I can totally relate. I’ve been with niccas who I did a lot for but got a little or half with a side of shyt in return. This is why I’m SINGLE because black love is dead to me. Black love only existed during my parents and grandparents’ generation and I would sell my soul just to live in their generation. Now niccas would pay attention to females with big butts, dresses skanky, no self respect, females who can give it up on the first date (w***es!) and to live off of. Black men just don’t respect females like me who are educated and have standards, would cook them home cooked meals, and will do anyting for them out of love, it seems like these men want more of lust than love. I take a look at my grandparents who been married for 60 years and I say to myself and I’m like “wow, I wish I would get that type of love that they got for each other”.

@Paneiro1-I know that and that was my point I was making most men would rather have a woman who is small and they go for the outside look first and then try to fake like they want the inside. Thats why when im out and a man speak to me nomatter how he look or what he say I will say something back to him,it might not be the answer he wanted to hear yet I still do it. Now some men on the other hand want speak to big/phat women or a woman who they think is ugly they expect her to be more…just to speak. And thanks for that laugh and I agree with you on this part of your comment( Most of the time if you find a man who cares where your shoes or bag came from or where you got your nails done he’s looking for your brother not you.)JMOARTY)

i see women with lames every day at work. no wonder yall end up with kids and being a single parent.

@xxWarriorGoddessxx
Your grandparents 60yr marriage is the exception. That’s never the standard. You think lusting for you is wrong? Who should your man lust after then. Today’s woman with education and standards dont think they should submit to their man. You too busy playing with dildos and vibrators. You’re single because you’re unwilling to admit you’ve made bad choices in men. Pick them better. Take a look at your friends page. Why cant any of those men take you from “SINGLE”? Hmmmmm

I am glad that this article was written not to bash our black men but to call out the black men who are doing these things. I can relate to this article, you made some great points, very well written.

I think we both expect too little from each other, that’s the problem. When a good man is seeking a mate he is often times ridiculed for his standards and when a good woman does the same she’s stuck up. Typically only those that CAN’T meet the standards set forth have the problem.

Oooo weeee! I’m glad I left this one alone!

@catgirlTX1
there used to be a time when BLACK WOMEN prided themselves in being able to do all of this. Now, it’s nothing but complaints, and the dudes you do all this stuff for are goddamn bums who don’t deserve it, but because you ladies feel like you’re getting good drama, you give all you can to that guy so you can have stories to tell about being victims. Enough of the goddamn victim stuff and you’re too busy. If you’re too busy, then you’re not the one, simple as that. Seriously, you guys have lost your luster. Who’s supposed to want to be permanent with someone who’s goddamn complaining about their schedule all day?

@catgirlTX1
and fyi, SEX IS FOR YOU TOO!!! It’s not just for guys. You make that seem like 1 more chore. Check yourselves, man, a boring gyal dat!

oh,geez here we go again…..

TIME TO BE BLUNT AND TO THE POINT. WOMEN ARE HORIBLE DECISION MAKERS. WOMEN LOVE THE WRONG GUYS FOR ALL THE WRONG REASONS. AS A RESULT, WOMEN GET THEIR FEELINGS HURT. MAJORITY DON’T LEARN FROM THEIR EXPERIENCES IN WHICH THEY MAKE THE SAME MISTAKE AGAIN. AT THAT POINT, THEY PUT THEIR GUARD UP AND BECOME BITTER. DURING THIS PERIOD THEY BUILD A NEVER ENDING LIST OF REQUIREMENTS THAT JESUS HIMSELF COULDN’T MEET. AT THIS POINT, NO MAN IS GOOD ENOUGH FOR THEM. THERE ARE THREE OUTCOMES TO THIS. 1. THE WOMEN PUSH AWAY DESCENT GUYS BECAUSE THEY FEAR A MAN WHO BRINGS STRUCTURE WHICH TAKES THEM OUT THEIR COMFORT ZONE. AS A RESULT, THE GO BACK TO THE DRAMA THEY’VE LEARNED TO BE COMFROTABLE WITH. 2 THEY GROW UP AND LEARN FROM THEIR MISTAKES, BUILD A STANDARD FOR THEMSELVES AND MAKE BETTER CHOICES IN THE MEN THEY CHOOSE TO DEAL WITH. 3. THEY LEARN NOTHING, CARRY THE BITTERNESS ALL THRU LIFE AND WIND UP BEING THE 68 YR OLD LONELY LADY COMPLAINING ABOUT KIDS WALKING ON HER GRASS. SO OFTEN I HEAR WOMEN SAY THEY’RE WAITING FOR THE RIGHT ONE TO COME ALONG. WHEN HE COMES ALONG, WILL YOU KNOW HOW TO TREAT HIM?

@Neverbeentojail-KML that sound like a jail and prison story. You claim(WOMEN ARE HORIBLE DECISION MAKERS. WOMEN LOVE THE WRONG GUYS FOR ALL THE WRONG REASONS. AS A RESULT,WOMEN GET THEIR FEELINGS HURT.) Some men are all of that you claim in a woman and then some. Some men will argue with a stop sign and pick a hoe/b!tch out the club and try to make her his wife and then b!tch because she fu(k his friends. Some of you men think with your dick and not your brain. So just face it some of you men expect to damn much from a woman and now that some women has up’d their standards some of you men want to complain. Well lower your standards and just maybe you might fine what you are looking for in a woman. SLMAO and the decision part…knowing you couldn’t hold a time frame on doing anything other than sports give your a$$ a food and bill list you will bring home a Xbox360 or Ps3 game and something from McDonalds or a pizza one. Hell you would forget to pick up the kids muchless take them to the doctor or an event. Come on now its 2010 who are you trying to fool? They hit home on this topic and its about time they did something on the black men…hell im mad they took the other topic off calling you dogs. Now you got alittle taste of how the black woman feel when they post dumb sh!t about us yet this one wasn’t dumb about some of you guys…its really true.(JMOARTY)

At this point in my life, I do not expect much from Black Women! Because I feel that the majority are not mentally able to provide my expectations.

The majority of Black women today feel that they are “Strong Black Women” without knowing what a strong Black women is or was.

Such black women feel that being loud mouthed and obnoxious is being strong. Without having a modern yardstick to measure themselves by, they go unchecked.

Raising illegitimate children and providing a home for them whether through welfare or hard work, arguing every misguided battle as if it was a personal affront and saying good buy to a man that was tired of your drama or never wanted you from the start does not make you a strong “Black Woman”. It make you a statistic.

Historically, strong black women were such as Harriet Tubman, Madam C.J. Walker and so forth. Women that brought themselves up along with the Black race.

Not superficial black women that condemn the entire Black Male race in order to justify being single and not being able to get or keep a man.

Trey

I AGREE WITH THIS ARTICLE BECUZ BLK MEN EXPECT 2 MUCH FROM US THAT THEY DON’T EXPECT FROM A WOMEN OF ANOTHER RACE AND I’M SICK OF THE MEDIA PORTRAYING US IN A NEGATIVE LIGHT AND OUR MEN DO NOTHING TO HAVE OUR BACKS BUT INSTEAD THEY CRITICIZE US BECUZE WERE TIRED OF BEING SUPERWOMAN. THEY DON’T SHOW US THE RESPECT WE DESERVE AND WHEN THE WORLD KICK THEIR ASS OR THE NONBLACK WOMEN PLAY THE HELL OUT OF THEM AND LEAVE THEIR ASS BROKE WHO THEY RUN 2 US THATS WHO WHETHER ITS MOMMA AUNT SISTA GRANDMA ITS STILL A BLK WOMAN THAT HAS 2 PICK UP THE PIECES AND MEND THE FAMILY 2GETHER AS ALWAYS. WE WERE AND STILL IS STRONGER THAN THE BLACK MAN AND MANY CAN’T WALK A 10STEPS IN OUR SHOES LET ALONE A MILE.ANOTHER THING BEFORE US IT WAS NONE AND AFTER US IT WILL BE NO MORE.

This topics only expose what we already know that the gap between black male & female is still there. Neither the male nor the female lives up to their expectation. But the truth is the black male only hopes to partner with someone for sexual pleasure, pleasent, understanding, and a good parent to his kids. 4 basic expectation and most women fall short and it’s not that they can’t but they won’t.

If you pick the right guy lady’s you want have this problem. Most black women go looking for a trophy and not a mr.right.>>Mr Right been around your block several time and you looked him over,When that other sister that has her head on right snatches him and now she living he goodlife you are left in the cold looking >>>>>Let me break it down for you my sister…((((((We men don’t want much at all..Here’s what we want..#1)Do us right we will do the same..#2)keep yourself in shape,black women stop letting yourself go #3)Be a freak in the bedrooom sometime if you do, beleive me he will nerver go looking..#4)spend the money right he will continue to bring it home..#5)Let Ex’s along,soon as you make contact with them you just open the door for us to cheat..and #6)most of all be A Lady in the streets,…last thing want to hear, whom are woman been sleeping with..

It amuses me how we women are often times bashed by Black men for being catty but look at all the generalized (and for a lack of a better term “B***hy”) comments put up by some of these guys. Not for nothing but WE are used to seeing a select number of Black men piss and moan because we aren’t “good” enough. Fortunately we as Black women have this uncanny ability to shake that off and move on with our lives. I was pretty even keeled with my response at first and am now jaded by, once again the lack of empathy shown by our “Kings”. Pathetic.

@ odoggz “Enough of the goddamn victim stuff and you’re too busy. If you’re too busy, then you’re not the one, simple as that. Seriously, you guys have lost your luster. Who’s supposed to want to be permanent with someone who’s goddamn complaining about their schedule all day?”

ARE YOU KIDDING ME? Maybe a hardworking woman is too busy for what YOU have to offer–have you ever stopped to think what your personal WORTH to her would be? It might not be worth her time or energy to deal with a man like you.

Expect more from yourself….and stop relying on someone to shape and mold you. You feel overwhelmed because your not trying hard enough. I’m a single mother, a student, a counselor at work, home and church, a breadwinner with two jobs, a homemaker and I feel like I am not doing enough. Please expect more from yourselves ladies or you will never succeed. When Mr. Right come along and you are winning, he’s not going to expect anything from you but to be who you are and thats a winner!
And at Do-Whatever……you don’t expect nothing because you’ve been dating women who haven’t brought their Big Girl panties yet, they still in pull ups playing house!

Yes, maybe we expect too much from each other. However, It does not make sense that black men expect more from us when more of us are educated, making more money, and less black women are in jail than black men. We come in all shapes, shades and sizes, personality types, etc. Yet many are still unsatisfied. You pretty much have a buffet of women to choose from yet there is that chip creeping up your shoulder not neccessarily ours.

Where it starts is with our own PERSONAL selves, and lemme break it down. Who is pushy, bossy, spiteful, manipulative, and bitter. Someone who expects everything of me, while giving as little as possible in return.I don’t want a woman who complains about everything that goes wrong or that doesn’t go her way, I don’t want a woman who gets mad cause I don’t say yes all the time, I don’t want someone who will sacrifice all that she stands for and believes in, in order to be with me. Just like ya’ll don’t want a self-center brother, who wants everything for free, cries and complains about every damn thang u do, and refuses to lift a finger, and wants u to be his second mother, I KNOW 4 A FACT ya’ll havin that s**t. But then I say LETS expect more from each, let’s have expectations and standards, not just for other people, but for our DAMN self (men and women). But even with that said, ladies, don’t write me off if i’m not where I wanna be in life either. If you give me at LEAST five minutes to pleed my case, so that we can talk and get to know each other, from there I wouldn’t mind if you rejected me because I’m not your type, at least i had my chance. But if you blow me off without giving me a chance to speak, then naturally you should expect me to be less than cordial. And fellas, look past the booty sometimes, cause at the end of the day, females break wind too, lol! that is to say, Don’t base your entire assumption about her from the way that she looks. Talk to her and see where her head is at and then make an educated decision. But ladies if u talk to him, and you know for a fact that he ain’t got s**t goin on, but you choose him anyway, THAT YO FAULT!!! Same goes for tha fellas. U damn right i want my girl to have a job and to be able to cook, cause I ain’t gone be the only one cookin, and i ain’t gone be the only one workin! And u damn right if we sharing a bed I’ma wanna get my freak on with you bae! Better you than sum1 else! But at the same time, fellas if u can’t offer some kind of security and stability, and you can’t take care of yo motha freakin self, then you DAMN right she gone complain about yo tired ass! tighten tha f*** up and grind! it’s goin on 2011 and we STILL ain’t figured this crap out yet?!

I meant to say “I don’t want someone who is pushy, etc…”

wow

Thats the problem now days Men expect a woman to totally lose herself for them and demand that as the woman you come to them , spend money on them and be there at there beakon call are you serious what happen to a man appreciating a Independant woman and then if you spend time with your family often but hell they dont even have the common thought to tell a real woman how they feel about her how about courting a woman for real making her fall in love instead trying to fall into her pockets every chance you get what happen to the ROMANCE of a REAL MAN where is it or did it die in the 70′s

First of all, I can only speak for myself, so I’m going to redefine the question as do I expect too much from black women… Second of all, let me share seven of what my expectations are…

1) A woman who accepts ME FOR ME as I WANT to accept HER FOR HER
2) A woman who AT MOST demands of me what she AT LEAST asks of herself
3) A woman who WANTS to include me in her present and future NOT who summarily puts me in with her “past mistakes”
4) A woman who don’t hit with her tongue JUST LIKE she expects to NOT be hit with my fists
5) A woman who KNOWS communication is mutual, meaning it involves talking AND listening
6) A woman who KNOWS a relationship involves her AND her man, meaning it requires receiving AND giving
7) A woman who is woman enough to keep HER WORD just like she expects me to be man enough to keep MY WORD

Now, if a woman CAN’T fulfill the first THREE expectations (because the other four are only extentions of the second expectation), then I guess I AM expecting too much from black women…

IT’S NOT ABOUT WHAT WE EXPECT

AS A BLACK MAN, IT’S ABOUT WHAT WE DON’T EXPECT.

WE DON’T EXPECT TO BE SLEEPING WITH THE ENEMY. WE DON’T EXPECT TO HAVE OUR SEED POISNED AGAINST US. WE DON’T EXPECT TO HAVE OUR CHARACTER ASSASINATED IN FRONT OF GOD AND THE ENTIRE PLANET. WE DON’T EXPECT FOR YOU TO TURN STATES EVIDENCE AGAINST US AND RETURN US TO THE PLANTATION AFTER WE’VE COME SO FAR. WE DON’T EXPECT FOR YOU ALL TO REFUSE TO REMAIN FULLY DRESSED IN PUBLIC. WE DON’T EXPECT THAT JUST BECAUSE YOU SPEND YOUR INCOME ON HORSE, INDIAN AND JAPANESE HAIR THAT WE CAN’T RUN OUR FINGERS THROUGH IT. WE DON’T EXPECT TO HAVE OUR CHILDREN AND OUR FUTURE ABANDONED AND LEFT HOME ALONE BECAUSE YOU WANT TO KEEP UP WITH THE JONES. WE DON’T EXPECT THAT IF THINGS FALL APART THAT YOU WILL ABORT OUR SEED AND DEFEND A WOMANS RIGHT TO DO SO. WE DON’T EXPECT TO HAVE OUR INTIMATE BUSINESS PUBLISHED IN THE CIRCLE OF YOUR SISTERHOOD. WE DON’T EXPECT FOR YOU TO BE DISLOYAL, MANIPULATIVE AND UNFAITHFUL WE DON’T EXPECT FOR YOU TO CHOOSE US IF WE ARE NOT QULIFIED….

NO NO NO YOUNG MZ YAEH SHE SAID IT.

IT’S NOT ABOUT WHAT WE EXPECT.

IT’S ABOUT WHAT WE DON’T EXPECT.

NOW PLEASE CONFESS SOME MORE.

EXACTLY WHAT NOW IS YOUR, I MEAN, THE BLACK MAN’S RESPONSIBILITY?

AT THE END OF THE DAY EACH GENERATION PICKS UP WHERE THE LAST GENERATION LEFT OFF.

IN MY OBSERVATION AND THROUGH THE EXAMINATION OF OUR HISTORY, POST PHYSICAL SLAVERY; WHILE ALL OTHER NATIONS AND PEOPLES ARE UNITED IN FOCUS TO ADVANCE TECHNOLOGY WE REMAIN MIRED IN THE MUD, ADVANCING NOTHING MORE THAN OUR ABILITY TO ARTICULATE OUR DISTRUST AND HATRED FOR EACH OTHER.

SHAME ON US!

TO MY NUBIAN BROTHAH’S, BEING A MAN MEANS MUCH. WHAT IT DOES NOT MEAN IS TO ENTERTAIN OR FOLLOW SILLY WOMAN.

TO MY NUBIANS SISTAH’S, THE BLACK WOMAN DOES NOT NEED TO EVOLVE. ALL SHE NEED DO IS SUBMITT TO GOD’S ORIGINAL DESIGN FOR HER;

MOTHER OF CIVILIZATION
QUEEN OF THE CASTLE

WE AS A PEOPLE NOW POSSES THE RESOURCES TO REGAIN OUR THRONES YET CHOOSE TO REMAIN AFFLICTED, DESPERATE AND DESOLATE.

IT’S TIME TO STAND UNITED IN CONTEMPLATION AND TAKE IN THE WORDS OF THE LATE MICHAEL JACKSON.

THERE IS A MAN/WOMAN IN THE MIRROR.

PLEASE DON’T TELL ME; THAT THERE IS ONE AMONG US THAT IS PERFECT.

FOREVER THY GUIDE, DEIFIC MIRROR
KEEPER OF THE FLAME AND ETERNAL BONDSMAN

Prince Nova

Hellobeautiful has done it again…. beautiful job.

Why are Black men so weak today and so willing to except the full weight of the destruction of the BLACK family and the BLACK community?

Is it because unbeknownst to them the single black mother in the privacy of her home is secretly waging a war of subordination against the spirit, of little black boys who grow up with the transfer of her inferiority complex.

If a woman truly were proud of her intellectual and spiritual constitution why would she fill a need to consistently present her body in public as her central asset of attraction?

And how can a individual who consistently presents a caustic and corrosive spirit, to the degree that no sane man would choose to dwell with or commit his life to her care and protection then turn and be compassionate to his seed?

Why are abortions on the rise in our community?

Why does the black woman support and even in some cases lead the world in the continuous CHARACTER ASSASSINATION of black males?

Why does the black woman believe that her attitude is an asset?.

Why does the black woman believe that in order for a black man to claim his strength that he must first learn to deal with the black woman’s attitude and mood swing?

Why should the black man exclusively deal with the black woman at all?

The wise man seeketh that which is in harmony with his own nature and endeavors to fit his life accordingly, rather than seek after things contrary to his nature.

What then is the true nature of man and why now is the world so demonstratively requesting that we live OUR LIVES in disharmony with our nature.

Power and control is her name.

Demoralized is her intellect.

Caustic is her nature for Envy is her spirit.

The knowledge of evil was the only knowledge that Adam did not possess.

Eve desired that knowledge in order to compete with Adam who was the MASTER of
THIS EARTH. GENESIS 3:6 to GENESIS 3:16

And where did she get this envy from?

She received it from the spirit of that snake; who was the avatar of the devil.

The devil fell because of his envy of GOD;

who is the MASTER OF THE UNIVERSE.

Where did the devil get his envy from?

The deviled got his envy from the envy of man who was created a little lower than the angels but to whom GOD had given the manifest destiny to rule over him in the natural evolution of the specie; HIS new creation

We are what are fathers are.

Yet not, IN THE BEGINNING.

A child must go through stages of growth

From seed to fetus

From fetus to infant

From infant to toddler

From toddler to adolescent

From adolescent to young adult

From young adult to young man

From young man to man of this world

From man of this world to man of GOD

From man of GOD to GOD;

HIMSELF

It takes time to mature and BE what we shall BE

GROWTH IS THE NATURAL COROLARY OF UNINPEDED LIFE

We are what are father IS

but not

IN THE BEGINNING

A seed must first be planted in the ground. Then it becomes a sapling and from sapling to a fully realized tree

GOD created HIMSELF in the form of an ATOM/ADAM

The Acorn BECOMES the OAK

The Adam Becomes the GOD

and just as Christ was planted in the ground as the acorn is to the oak.

The MAN of GOD becomes GOD

These are THE STEPS OF CHRIST and OUR MANIFEST DESTINY

So who turned the TRUTH of GOD into a lie

A.T.O.M.
A.D.O.M

A.lway A.ngel
T.rue D.eviled
O.mega’s O.mega’s
M.aster M.isery

And misery loves company,

Apparently

Eve did to.

Pilate said unto them, What is TRUTH? And when he had said this, he went out again to the JEWS and saith unto them, I find in HIM no fault at all.

The JEWS answered him, we have a law, and by our law he ought to die, because he made HIMSELF

the SON of GOD.

Do Black Men Expect Too Much From Black Women?

NOPE BUT,THOSE BLACK WOMEN EXPECT TO MUCH FROM THOSE BLACK MEN THOUGH.

SO,IF YOU BLACK WOMEN THINK THAT THOSE BLACK MEN EXPECT TO MUCH FROM YALL THEN STOP TRYING TO GET WITH THEM THEN.

ALL THAT YOU BLACK WOMEN KNOW ABOUT IS MONEY,LIES AND TROUBLE AND PROBLEMS.

AND YALL WILL EXPECT FOR THOSE BLACK MEN TO PUT UP WITH THAT.YOU BLACK WOMEN NEED TO LEARN ABOUT CHANGE.

TRUTH IS:

IF YOU BLACK PEOPLE WANT GOD HELP THEN THE VERY FIRST THING FOR YA’LL TO DO IS TO GET AWAY AND STAY AWAY FROM THOSE OTHER RACE OF PEOPLE BECAUSE THEY ARE ABOUT THE WORST DEVILS THAT SATAN HAS CREATED TO BE ON THIS WICKED PLANET EARTH WITH YA’LL.

FOR ONE THEY ARE THE ONES THAT SPREAD ALL THE DISEASES AND ALL OF THE LIES AND CONFUSION IN THE WORLD AND ALSO DO THE MAJORITY OF THE KILLING/MURDERING.

SLEEPING AROUND WITH THOSE FILTHY FLEA BITTEN MANGE AND PARASITE CARRYING DOGS IS NASTY.

YOU BLACK PEOPLE GOD GIVEN COMMON SENSE SHOULD TELL YA’LL THAT THOSE OTHER RACE OF PEOPLE ARE NOTHING LIKE YA’LL,THEY DON’T LOOK LIKE YA’LL,THEY DON’T SMELL LIKE YA’LL,THEY DON’T ACT LIKE YA’LL,THEY DON’T THINK LIKE YA’LL,THEY DIDN’T COME FROM YA’LL,THEY DON’T TALK LIKE YA’LL BUT,THOSE OTHER RACE OF PEOPLE DON’T HAVE ANY GOD GIVEN COMMON SENSE TO THINK THAT WAY JUST LIKE THEY DON’T HAVE ANY GOD GIVEN COMMON SENSE TO KNOW THAT THEY ARE FULL OF MANY DIFFERENT KIND OF INFECTIOUS VIRUSES AND DISEASES THAT YOU BLACK PEOPLE DON’T HAVE BUT,STILL IN ALL THEY SAY COME ON AND TRY THEM OUT IN THE BED (in other words they are born some infectious disease carrying and passing animals).

TO BE INTELLIGENT IS TO KNOW THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN WHATS RIGHT AND WHATS WRONG (in other words its the opposite of being ignorant).

INTELLIGENT IS THE OPPOSITE OF IGNORANT

DO ANY OF YOU PEOPLE KNOW THAT SAME IS THE OPPOSITE OF DIFFERENT? COME ON NOW DIDN’T WE ALL LEARN THAT IN ABOUT THE 1ST GRADE OF GRAMMAR SCHOOL

BLACK AND WHITE ARE NOT THE SAME ITS DIFFERENT MEANING ITS THE OPPOSITE

THOSE TWO PEOPLE ARE THE SAME BECAUSE THEY ARE BLACK BUT,THOSE TWO PEOPLE ARE NOT THE SAME BECAUSE ONE IS WHITE AND ONE IS BLACK.

UP AND DOWN IS NOT THE SAME ITS DIFFERENT

DEAD AND ALIVE IS NOT THE SAME IT IS DIFFERENT BECAUSE ONE IS HERE AND ONE IS GONE.

DAY AND NIGHT IS NOT THE SAME IT IS DIFFERENT BECAUSE ONE IS LIGHT AND ONE IS DARK.

TO BE A MATCH IS TO BE THE SAME.

NOW DO I HAVE TO BRING MY 12yr.old SON INSIDE OF HERE TO TRY AND EXPLAIN THIS TO SOME OF YOU?

WHAT DO THEY TEACH YOU BLACK PEOPLE KIDS IN SCHOOL ABOUT SEX EDUCATION? DO THEY TELL THEM TO SLEEP WITH THOSE OTHER RACE OF PEOPLE? DO THEY TELL THEM THAT A PEN!S IS A PEN!S AND THAT A VAG!NA IS A VAG!NA WHEN TRULY IT IS NOT AND IF SO,THEN THEY ARE NOT TEACHING THEM ON HOW TO AVOID CATCHING CERTAIN DISEASES THAT THOSE OTHER RACE OF PEOPLE CARRY.

THIS IS WHAT I CALL WISING UP TO THE TRUE FACTS OF LIFE.

YOU BLACK PEOPLE DO NOT BE KILLING UP THOSE WHITE PEOPLE AND THOSE FOREIGN PEOPLE BUT,THEIR BORN MENTALLY DISTURBED PSYCHOTIC AZZES SURE DO BE KILLING YOU BLACK PEOPLE UP THOUGH.

THOSE STUPID FILTHY WHITE PEOPLE WILL TELL YOU BLACK PEOPLE THAT YA’LL BLEED RED BLOOD BUT,WHAT THEY ARE NOT TELLING YA’LL IS THAT THEIR RED BLOOD CELLS IS DEFINITELY CONTAMINATED.

DON’T FOLLOW IN THE FOOTSTEPS OF IGNORANCE AND STUPIDITY.

THE PATH OF THE DEVIL WILL LEAD YOU BLACK PEOPLE TO DEATH AND THE PATH OF GOD WILL LEAD YOU BLACK PEOPLE TO LIFE.

THOSE WHITE PEOPLE AND THOSE FOREIGN PEOPLE ARE THE MAIN ONES THAT BE ENCOURAGING THIS KIND OF FILTHY BAD SEXUAL BEHAVIOR BECAUSE THEY ARE THE ONES THAT CARRY AND PASS THOSE INFECTIOUS VIRUSES AND DISEASES TO OTHER PEOPLE.

THOSE BLACK WOMEN WILL SLEEP AROUND WITH THOSE WHITE MEN BECAUSE OF THAT FILTHY DUMB HOE THAT RESIDES IN THEM

SOME OF YOU BLACK WOMEN ARE SO,GOT DARN DUMB AND IT DOESN’T MATTER IF YA’LL ARE YOUNG OR OLD,SOME OF YOU BLACK WOMEN BRAIN READS SO DAMN DYSFUNCTIONAL AND IT’S MOST LIKELY BECAUSE YA’LL ARE IGNORANT.

YOU BLACK WOMEN CLAIM TO BE STRONG BUT,YA’LL REALLY ARE WEAK BECAUSE YA’LL DON’T EVER TAKE A STAND FOR WHAT IS RIGHT WHEN IT COMES TO YA’LLS OWN BLACK MEN OR RATHER YA’LLS BLACK RACE OF PEOPLE.

ABOUT THE ONLY TIME THAT YOU SO,CALLED EDUCATED STRONG BLACK WOMEN WILL TAKE A STAND IS TO STOMP DOWN ON YA’LLS OWN RACE OF BLACK PEOPLE.

THIS QUESTION IS TO YOU BLACK MEN THAT BE SLEEPING AROUND WITH THOSE FILTHY AZZ WHITE/FOREIGN WOMEN.

WHAT DO YA’LL BE SMELLING WHEN THEY WILL PULL THEIR PANTIES DOWN IN YA’LLS HOUSE? TELL THE TRUTH

DO THEY SMELL DIFFERENT FROM YA’LLS BLACK WOMEN?

TELL THE TRUTH BLACK MEN ON WHY YA’LL REALLY BE SLEEPING AROUND WITH THOSE FILTHY WHITE/FOREIGN DOGS? YA’LL JUST BE TRYING TO HAVE SEX WITH SOMEBODY THAT’LL GIVE IT UP QUICK RIGHT?

THE ONLY REASON THAT THEY’LL GIVE IT UP QUICK IS BECAUSE THEIR DOG P*SSY AIN’T NO GOOD (in other words it carry flea,ticks,crabs and lice and can pass ya’ll the rabies) BLOOD SUCKING BUGS

THAT ONE STUPID WHITE MAN THAT GOES BY THE SCREEN NAME OF (georgemichael) ARE TELLING YOU BLACK MEN THAT THERE ISN’T ANYTHING WRONG WITH THOSE WHITE/FOREIGN WOMEN WHOM HAS THE RABIES DOG P*SSY BUT,IF AIN’T ANYTHING WRONG WITH IT THEN WHY HE BE TELLING YOU BLACK MEN TO SLEEP AROUND WITH THOSE WHITE/FOREIGN WOMEN THEN? DOING THAT KIND OF CRAP TO YA’LL IS JUST LIKE TRYING TO KILL YA’LL ON A SLY JUST TO GET YA’LL TO GET SOME P*SSY

YA’LL BETTER START THINKING ON YA’LLS OWN SO,TO NOT BE MADE FOOLS OUT OF.

IN ORDER FOR A PERSON TO BE INTELLIGENT THEN THEY WOULD HAVE TO DEFINITELY KNOW THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN WHATS RIGHT AND WHATS WRONG AND IF THEY DON’T THEN THAT ONLY MEANS THAT THEY ARE EITHER DUMB OR STUPID WHICH TRULY MAKES THEM IGNORANT.

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