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By RK Byers

I just finished reading Nick Hornby’s “About a Boy.” The story is about a guy with no kids that starts exclusively dating women with kids. His reasons are that, in his opinion, children democratized beautiful women—meaning that they were the liability that made otherwise out-of-his-league women suddenly in his league—and also that usually, according to Hornby’s character, the one requirement for being a nice guy in the eyes of a woman with kids was that you be nothing like the kid(s) father.

Needless to say, I found this perspective absolutely shocking!

There are few issues in the Black dating community as divisive as the issue of single men and women with children. There’s even a song by Lyfe Jennings called “She Got Kids” that casts the children of a prospective love interest as the deal breaker.

For some reason, the children of unmarried Black people—especially Black people that have never been married—are seen as evidence of low breeding, poor self-esteem and questionable life choices.

Never mind that Brad and Angelina are unmarried and neither is Sarah Palin’s daughter Bristol, Britney Spears sister Jamie Lynn nor, quite frankly, a whole host of whites that either turn the products of their unmarried love and sex affairs into something chic, or become crusaders; using the children as proof some sort of inner bravery that should entitle them to a badge of honor.

Almost gone seem to be the days of bluesmen like Muddy Waters and Howlin’ Wolf. Both men married women with preexisting children as they were more concerned with, it seems, the woman herself than with her, er, “baggage”.

Also almost gone seem to be the Black women that will accept men with children. Many of today’s Black women rarely see the need to “settle” for anything, especially something that could seem to be evidence of any sloppiness or past indiscretions.

But is this right?

Would you turn down a woman or man that was otherwise perfect except for one (or a few) little thing(s)?

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  • http://www.blackplanet.com/CaliFemme23/ CaliFemme23

    Children are not a deal breaker…A man who has children is a great way to see certain parts of his character, how he deals with his children definately says a lot about him..Its good insight to what you might be getting into…

    Kids are not a deal breaker…BAD AZZ KIDS are a deal breaker….lol

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/Jonathan__/ Jonathan__

    I usually do not comment..i frankly think NEWSONE and HELLO-BEAUTIFUL promote stereotypes

    BUT I DIGRESS

    ANYWAY

    I have dated an almost perfect women with kids (fellas she was lebanese, listened to The commodores, med student and extremely attractive). BUT She would sit there..and trace every beautiful physical part of her kids while I would listen in a bit of jealousy.

    LIKE THIS:

    HER to children: “Aww your nose is such a button”
    Me to self: “well i am mixed with Ethiopian and our children nose will be broad..LIKE ALMOST ALL BLACK FOLKS!

    HER-to-children: “Aww your hair is so curly and cute”
    Me-to-self “well my hair is wavy and not slick like their daddys..will you treat our children less if they had borderline kinky hair??”

    HER-to-children: “Aww I love your complexion..so beautiful”
    ME-to-self: “well I am milk chocolate, your kids are vanilla-pecan..would your family treat our BROWN beautiful child bad because he/she is not LIGHTER?

    See my point? And I LOVED those 2 kids. But how would they treat the “darker sibling.”

    Also, how would grandparents work? Because you best believe that your new step-childs grandparents WOULD SELDOM accept you and your mates NEW baby. Understand?

    Imagine bringing home two toddlers RIGHT NOW TO YOUR MAMA OR UNCLE OR FATHERS HOUSE. Now imagine the children cussing and acting out. You cannot correct them YOU ARE NOT THEIR DADDY! Your mama or uncle or father cannot correct them..THEY ARE NO OLDER DISCIPLINARIAN RELATED BY BLOOD!

    So is it a DEAL-BREAKER? Depends on if you are just banging this women or column 8-ing her (essence column 8..private beaches, roses at work..my lingo is above yall head i know)

    JUST NEVER MAKE A WOMEN HAVE TO CHOOSE BETWEEN A CHILD AND YOU..ITS SELFISH. MAN UP, MAKE YOUR DECISION AND SPOIL SOMEONE WITH YOUR LOVE..RATHER ITS A WOMEN WITH 2 BEAUTIFUL KIDS OR NOT.

    And I will not throw in a disclaimer about “banging her”. Musiq came out with that song B.U.D.D.Y. so lets be grown ups and face the facts that we all love a good romping now and again (though I now save myself for only a women I have sights on marrying..im picky!)

    ONE,
    Jonathan

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/Stan_Vinyl/ Stan_Vinyl

    Jonathan__, I feel you on all points. That’s something I would have never thought about. I’da probably rolled with the situation and been up shyt creek messin with that kind of girl.

    With that said… Kids are only a deal breaker if you lie about having kids or the number of kids you actually have.

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  • http://www.blackplanet.com/BlaqKThought/ BlaqKThought

    It depends on what phase the person is going through in life. If I was in my 20′s I would not go after women with children. To raise children that aren’t yours requires something more of you than just the love for your mate. It is a scientific fact that children drastically effect your relationship, it will never be a you and her moment. Single Mother’s date with with an “US” agenda, so, it is a package deal. She may not have a choice but as single men or visa versa, we do. I seek relationships where I and my mate are each others children, and once we have had a fulfilling relationship that is stable enough to have children then we’ll talk about it have children. So, children are a deal breaker (excusing one night stands) when I date.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/sweetcinnamon202/ sweetcinnamon202

    Only stating MY opinion and how I feel now at this point in my life…..I LOVE kids; I’m a big sister to my much younger two sisters. I want to have kids of my OWN; I want to be able START a family with my husband. I personally won’t date a man with children (anymore) because of several reasons, baby mama drama (assuming she’s in the picture.); I KNOW how other women can be let alone when children are involved. Knowing that’s not MY child and I don’t ever want to be in a situation when EITHER parent has a problem with me and/or child interactions, boundaries(disciplining them.), any and everything that comes along with children involved and the couple is not together. In the end NO matter what there WILL BE drama at some point, and personally I feel relationships have enough stress before you factor in kids from someone else!

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/IPromise84/ IPromise84

    First Jonathan I love your comment and it is so true about the potential “new baby’” I worry about that a lot. I do not have children and I would love to date a man without kids, but I always end up dating men with one or more. Good men but maybe I’m still hung up on one past experience where the man’s baby mother was…how do you say…CRAZY!! Pyscho CRAZY!! I can’t get it out of my head so no matter how many times a man tells me that their bbm(s) are cool I just simply don’t believe it. Something else that bothers me is if I’m stepping into a relationship with a man with kids, I completely feel like I’m stepping into a situation where I’m the outsider and second best. Call me selfish but I work a lot so anytime with my signficant other is precious and for the most part…I don’t want to share. :((

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/Esoteric_Dredz/ Esoteric_Dredz

    I feel like anyone who views a person with kids to be less than or a liability on a hard line basis to be superficial as hell, and if such a person claims they can’t find a mate then they make their own bed. Its not about having kids, its about how you handle the responsibility of being a parent. If a woman has kids and she is a good mom, and she handles her responsibility and is raising her kids with values then that is a PLUS not a minus. Also important is the nature of the relationship with the child’s father. As long as she has a relatively healthy and drama free interaction with him, then there is no problem there either.

    Reality is, in our community, if you are dating someone in their 30′s (I wont even say just in our community given the divorce rates overall) you are going to find people with kids. To rule out all people with kids just seems overly judgmental and silly. Who is to say that a person without kids is a better person or potential mate than someone who has them? To assume such would be silly and foolish.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/sylkiiifeather/ sylkiiifeather

    well i dont necessarily think that its silly to not want to date someone with kids if you dont have any yourself…especially if you are a woman. baby mama drama aint no joke…and thats from personal experiences. but because i do tend to date older men, i do realize its hard to find a black man (in my area at least) who doesnt have any kids. It was a hard decision for me when i decided to open myself up to men with kids, but im glad i did. my fiance who is 30 has 2 kids…with no baby mama drama. so i guess it just depends on the guy and if he handles the situation the right way….

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  • http://www.blackplanet.com/ChoPueInd_Luv/ ChoPueInd_Luv

    Its the media that portrays single black mothers/fathers in negative manners and the white single mothers/fathers in a “oh what a wonderful parent” manner. I believe its a personal preference. Being a woman with no kids, I want a man WITH NO KIDS, and I am finding it harder to come by. When I have made the choice to date a man with a child, it always ends up with drama. Drama, I know I have ZERO patience for. It all goes back to preference, but it also goes back to how we as African Americans view each other. I get the “what’s wrong with you” question or look when I say I don’t have children. I honestly think it’s pretty funny that someone thinks something is wrong with me because I chose not to have children out of wedlock. That is the way it was supposed to be in the beginning of life anyways, and I continue to stand by my beliefs. I believe children are better off in 2 parent homes, and a woman should consider “father qualities” when she is settling down with the man she wants to be her husband and father of her children.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/Cbunnietx5/ Cbunnietx5

    WOW! to each its own…. i have children and you never know what the situation may be if you choose a man or woman who has no kids that is your decision, but to make it as if one who has kids is degrading then something is definently wrong with you. funny how we cast stones but have no flaws?? We as the black community need to stop finding excuses for things and step up and make the right decisions. I have had really good men step up to the plate that do not have kids and do not think like that , I cant speak for anybody else but i have never brought “baby daddy drama” I know who I am as a women and I don’t cry for respect I DEMAND it. with that said man and women need to know whats best at hand and still respect that fact that if you get into a relationship you define the boundaries for the future and at the end of the day if there are children envovled you do whats in the best interest of the child(ren) other than that, “SAY IT WAIVING AND KEEP IT MOVING” you all stay focused and blessed

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/jazzwatch/ jazzwatch

    I’m in my 40s and I don;t have any kids (not enough nookie) and want some kids, but If the kids are Be Bes kids, then NUH UNNNNNN!

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  • http://www.blackplanet.com/Nicki_DaBlack_Barbie/ Nicki_DaBlack_Barbie

    IM A YOUNG,BLACK,SINGLE PARENT OF 1 AND I HAVE NO PROBLEMS IN THAT AREA OF SORT…

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/SheerEllagance/ SheerEllagance

    WITH ALL DUE RESPECT FOR SINGLE PARENTS, SEEING AS HOW I WAS RAISED BY JUST MY MOTHER, I PREFER TO NOT DATE MEN WITH CHILDREN. IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE CHILD(REN) & EVERYTHING TO DO WITH THE MADNESS BETWEEN THE PARENTS.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/mizz214/ mizz214

    I love kids…it’s their mom’s that make them a dealbreaker.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/munegbu/ munegbu

    Believe it or not most of the time kids are a deal breaker. I know in the past I felt like I had more of a chance to date a dime with kids than one with out kids. I am eager to watch the movie she’s outta my league. For example if you had 2 women that are dimes. One has a kid and the other one doesn’t. Most men feel like they would hit it off with the women with a kid than the other one.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/Calm_Cool_Collect/ Calm_Cool_Collect

    Its not a deal breaker but it sure does major damage to “the deal”. I also take into consideration whether or not this person had these kids while married. I dont have kids and I wont until I get married. Thats just my choice. I dont look down on people who didnt do it that way but thats just how I was raised. I tend to not take women with kids serious….and when I say serious, I mean I dont look at them as a viable marriage candidate.I would just prefer to date women who do not have kids.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/SwtChocLady3/ SwtChocLady3

    I have no problemdating a man with with children. Ido not take the kids/ no kids as a consideration of character. I DO take the situation; Is he putting his children BEFORE me? I think he should.How is the relationship with the kids mother? Is it decent, or messy? I have met men who have children,no custody, not trying to see them OR send money . THAT for me is a big no no.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/WestsideCartelAtl85/ WestsideCartelAtl85

    Bad azz kids are a deal breaker. lol!!!! But seriously, I would talk to or date a woman with one child. Because shyt happens in life. I just can’t be serious with a woman with more than one child since I have no kids myself.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/SoularFlarez/ SoularFlarez

    it depends on HER situation and how SHE movin, moreso then da kids….

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/reticence/ reticence

    I am 27 and I don’t have kids. I chose not to have any right now and responsible sex happened to work out for me. However, I do understand that things happen and some things can not be prevented. Therefore, I am open to dating someone with kids, but I do prefer men without them. I also understand how it could be a deal breaker though, because being a mother or father is a totally different lifestyle. Like most people have commented, it depends on the situation. If you have baby mamma drama or an “I just pay child support” attitude, then you are not the one for me.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/poohbear_2hot/ poohbear_2hot

    the children are not usually the problem. the problem is crazy baby mommas. and then a lot of guys feel that they can still sleep with their baby’s mom and it’s all good. no one wants to deal with that. so we try to avoid it. besides, if you don’t have any children and you would like to have some, you want your partner to be just as excited about the experience. if he already has a bunch of kids, that kills the excitement for him, so you don’t have anyone to share that first baby experience with.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/BabiSista12/ BabiSista12

    they are for me. i have none so i dont want i guy that does. its that simple for me.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/fla_male_2000/ fla_male_2000

    someone stole my answer but ill say it anyway kids isnt a deal breaker ,,,,bad ass kids is a deal breaker ,,,i prefer a woman with less than 2 kids because i may want kids with her also,,,since i dont have any its one helluva adjustment going from 0 kids to 3 in a matter of months

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