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dove adIt’s been an age-old question, but never seems to  get answered. I’ve been a “thick” woman my whole life. I’ve been way up, and been way down. Now as a 21-year-old, fashion addict that is top frail and bottom heavy, I’ve been, once again, confronted with this same question: How do you define “fat”?

As I got  opinions on the topic, I couldn’t help but wonder why such a debate was so hard to answer in the first place? Why is it so hard to define the two?

Why do they even exist in the first place? What are the implications in being “thick” and those in being “fat”?

One person said that if your stomach pokes out more than your breast, congrats your fat! But what about those people who are apart of the itty-bitty titty committee? Fat by default?

Another said if a person is sloppy and have flab that hangs in all the wrong places.

One even dared to say, “fat” is a person who is self-conscious, and, overall, has zero flavor, they’re fat versus “thick” as well kept, clean, confident, and exudes copious amounts of flavor.

So if you’re 800 lbs., but hey you can dress, you’re thick?

Generally, people had a very hard time answering a question that I assumed we all knew the answers to. Responses got so complex that sub-levels of thick and fat began to show up.

I never knew there was a “big girl” thick, a “fat girl” thick, and a “skinny girl” thick. What happened to the good old days when you were either skinny or fat?

And why do we consider being thick (which, I was told, is just a happy meal away from fat) to be ideal?And why is fat just not hot?

Take this scenario into thought. Ladies, have you ever been out and about, and a guy attempt to talk to you and give you compliments? If  he calls you “thick” are you offended? Are you ready to curse him out? Do you take off your earrings and pull out the vaseline? Of course not! You’d feel good.

But think back to when Forever 21 launched their sister collection, Faith 21, for plus size women. They indirectly linked Kim K to their plus-size collection, which caused Kim to have a bit of a temper tantrum. Let’s be real, Kim is not really a “big girl”  but does have a whole lot of “big girl” assets.

Are thick and fat the same?

Where does thickness  end and fatness begin? And why is “fat” such a horrible thing?

And really what’s the big damn deal?


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  • http://www.blackplanet.com/GhettoIndia02/ GhettoIndia02

    oh lawd..here we go with this debate

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/I8ThaPussSoRite/ I8ThaPussSoRite

    the stomach decides it. If you have a gut your fat no matter what size, an if you have no gut then you thick no matter what size

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/dottie_03/ dottie_03

    I KNO RITE THIS AGAIN..

    PERSONALLY I THINK THICK AN FAT ARE THE SAME

    YOUR CONSIDERED THICK AND FAT WHEN U WEIGH MORE THAN A LIL SKINNY PERSON..CUZ U AINT SKINNY BUT U THICK AN FAT..SKINNY PPL CALL THEY SELF FAT(IDKy THE FUQ they do SMH)

    MAN I KNO IM BIIG WHO CARES
    …BUT WHEN A NIG OFF THE STREETS SAY “AYE THICKEMS”..I BE LIKE “HOW U DOIN” IN MA wendy williams voice lol

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/Shamel_/ Shamel_

    I agree with the ladies below. When I saw this title my first thought was “HERE COMES TROUBLE” (smh). There is going to be some rude/immature mofo’s to comment on this. The word “THICK” has been OVERused, MISused, and ABUSED (smdh)! I see some girls that are thin who call themselves thick & oftentimes big/fat girls referring to themselves as the same. For that reason I leave that word completely off the table when describing myself. I consider myself a “big” girl because I am tall, volumptuous, and pear shaped (but proportioned ;) ). People see themselves differently but I personally think Thick & Fat are two different things. I would describe Tocarra or Deelishis as thick and Mo’Nique more on the “fat” side…although I HATE this label. However, these are all beautiful women doin’ the damn thing. Do you!!

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/amyee81/ amyee81

    Alot of people refer to me as thick. I am tall too so alot of older men call me an amazon or a brick house. Quite frankly, it doesn’t how well proportioned I am, even if I lost weight, I still would be bottom heavy.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/sylkiifeather/ sylkiifeather

    SMH @ this d*amn topic again……..

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/supavisah/ supavisah

    I think this word (thick) is over used too. There are lot of fat girls running around calling themselves thick. Thick is more porportioned with next to no gut or no gut at all while fat is the opposite. Monique is fat, Tocorra is thick, and Jennifer Hudson can straddle the fence sometimes. . .

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/soveu34/ soveu34

    And what does this has to do with the real issues were facing in our communities. Thick headedness runs in our communitie too well and some people get fat heads when the wrong person be hollaring at them.

    Now with that said we have enuff of bs to deal with as it is and thick v fat AA body type is different from that floosy standard anglo saxon weight chart that they want to group everyone with.

    Fat= guts, luv handles, double chins Thick=no fat characteristic, heavy at the bottom, toned, solid just my pov

    Now can we talk about some real serious issues…

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/MAXAMIL1/ MAXAMIL1

    Not making a comment. I got cuss out by 30 complete strangers on my page last time this topic was on.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/Callmepapi585/ Callmepapi585

    —–>>>>>>>>>>>>Thick and fat are not the same<<<<<<<——-…….. Fat is when you have your gut hanging and or is over weight.. Thick is when you have nice size hips and still some what slim with it!!!!!!!!! Fat and skinny girls need to stop calling themselves thick unless they fit that category…Nothing wrong with being fat or skinny( well i don’t like anorexic looking girls

    Toccara lost a lot of weight shes thick n sexy =p
    Kim Kardashian is sexy and THICK
    Kym Whitley is fat
    Beyonce THICK
    Monique is Phat
    J.lo thick

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/Romaine973/ Romaine973

    I would screw all them chicks in that pic

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/lickitluscious/ lickitluscious

    Thick is when you are proportioned well and you look good with yours. I am what u called”big-boned” always have been, and always will be. But honestly this topic is played h3!! People like and are attracted to whomever and whatever they consider sexy…whether they be thick, slim,or whatever…who tha fuqq cares?

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/1_Nonly1/ 1_Nonly1

    It’s a dilemma if u ask me…..We want females who are “not skinny” to have good self esteem, so we come up with these terms “phat, thick, big bone etc..” to help out. But then we have the “unhealthy” individual not exercising and not eating the proper foods which then those bad habits gets passed down to the children and then here we are with this epidemic of obesity….like I said a dilemma…

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/keblethomas/ keblethomas

    They’re definitely not the same. I love thick women. Thickness is: athletic legs, big azz, no stomach (I don’t mind a little). Fat b@t$hes have it all hanging out, with stretch mark all over their body…. I used to be all into dating fat chicks. I just recently become annoyed with fat b*t^%hes…. They always insecure about themselves… Most of the fat girls I dated, eat way more than I do…. I mean, guys should not have to put up with y’all fat, nasty, greedy azzs.
    Stop eating like a phucking pig and start exercising…. I’m done with fat b%t#hes!

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/LDUBJR/ LDUBJR

    Thick = hour glass shape. Thats the easiest way of putting it. You can be a bigger girl with an hour glass shape, its just rare to not have a gut hanging out too.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/michelle439/ michelle439

    first of all ……….im a big girl and very beauiful thick is what u get before you become a big girl there nothing wrong with small,thick,and big what matter is in the heart .everybody cant be beyonce,or whateva beauty is in the heart .a small chick can have a nasty attuide and big girl can have a heart outta gold so it dont matter

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/0VancouverHurts/ 0VancouverHurts

    TOCCARA IS AVERAGE
    JENNIFER H IS AVERAGE
    KIM IS AVERAGE HEALTHY AND THICK AND SEXY AND ATTRACTIVE AND CURVY NO HOMO
    I DONT KNOW WHO KYM IS AND THATS NOT A GREAT PIC SO ALL I CAN SAY SHE IS AVG AND FAT FROM LOOKIN AT DA PIC
    BEYONCE IS SKINNY (WHEN SHE WEARS LEOTARDS SHE APPEARS THICK) BUT IN THIS URBAN WORLD I GUESS SHE IS CLASSIFIED AS THICK.
    MONIQUE IS BIG BUT LOOKS GREAT IN THAT PIC
    JLO IS SKINNY WITH A MONSTER BUTT AND THIGHS SO CONSIDERED THICK EVENTHOUGH SHE IS IRONICALLY SMALL AND TINY IN PERSON JUST LIKE BEE THEY ARE THE SIZE OF CHILDREN WHEN U MEET THEM IN REAL LIFE.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/SEARCH09/ SEARCH09

    Same topics…Let me just put it like this>
    once YOU either male or female LOSE YOUR SHAPE and become shapeless then you begin get’n them “HOW JU DO’N” stares bcas your ars is getn fat! I dont understand why people keep getting thick and fat mistaken when it is clearly obvious that you are fat and not thick or thick but not fat.

    It is sort of difficult to define thick because bodies are different for each person and fat lands in different areas of the human body.Thick is tight, athletic or at least the fat is not noticeably widespread.Thick people can still be classified as being IN SHAPE.When I say IN SHAPE,I am pertaining to the visual CONTOUR of the human body.Once you begin to lose THAT or fat begins over-lapping the shape you once had and you notice you ARE EXPANDING-sh*t your ars is getting fat.there is no question about it and stop deceiving yourselves and pretending.

    Fat category:Ruben Studder,big pun,fat joe,missy,kym whitley,monique,jen hudson,Queen Latifa,suge knight and didnt forget about YOUR ARS BOBBY BROWN lol
    Thick category:Toccara,beyonce,Chris Tucker,Ashanti,
    Skinny category:Kim Kardas,Jennifer lopez,Rihanna,prince,MJackson,Chris Rock,beyonce’s sister.Just bcas your ars HAS AN ARS or a FAKE ars doesnt mean your fat…people!Lets easily distinguish the two and not confuse them ever again so this topic CAN DIE.
    Body proportion =height and WEIGHT must COORDINATE or else your ars has either reached OBESITY or SKIN AND BONES>both near death.
    Basically if you have too much hanging or anything hanging than NOOOO your not thick!This goes for both MEN and women.
    Youll men coming up in here talking ish about women,brotha let me see your 6pack if any.Also fellas,these women in hollywood get paid for their looks that is why they so anxious to get back to size negative.Us women in the real world,we are depending on both looks and brains primarily our brains to get us to the top.And youll men dont bare children,you’ll just come up in here once youll have the opportunity and bash women F*K YOULL.like I said let me see your six pack.Child please-your ars dont have one!Now I have no children yet nor am I even thick/fat or whatever but I have way tooo many friends and family members of all shapes,sizes and height.Really dont appreciate some of the comments that come from men in these topic forums.youll look for any opportunity to bash women when infact some of youll are not even nearly close to being on the same level as us skinny,thick or fat SUCCESSFUL WOMEN, how you going to take care of your 20 children by 20 diff baby mamas THATS even when you are able to KEEP a job.some of youll men worrying to much about sh*t that wont pay the Got Damn bill.So try to get your ars to the success level and not worry so much on weight,when in reality your ars is also OBESE.Have the nerve to bash your woman,sweety its just an mirror image of YOUR ARS!I’m just attacking in advance bcause I know how these forums normally get.Here we go…LOL

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/TaneishaCOle/ TaneishaCOle

    Whole da hell up i dont appreciate this at all. ima thick chick and im 17 yrs old, and when a nigga get mad at me or somebody wanna be funny they wanna call me fat, which i aint. and the two dudes that say or fat ppl are sloopy and s**t lik dat dont even go there yall two should be glad to ge a woman at all skinny or fat yall small dick asses! lets get to the topic “BIG DICK SMALL DICK” yall wouldnt lik dat at all would u!

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/Mr_Patches/ Mr_Patches

    It’s not a hard question to answer at all. When you really think about it, thick and fat are the same thing.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/aamaazon/ aamaazon

    if you’re more than 30lbs over the recommended weight for your height and build, you are fat, i”m fat,but who really gives a shyt until it messes with the quality of your life? lmao.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/balaaqbeauty/ balaaqbeauty

    lmao this topic is crazy!!!….Keble is a azzhole/hater obviously some fat girl hurt ur feelings lol…
    Some ppl call me thick, but I consider myself a fat/big girl. I guess they say im thick cuz i have good porportions nd with clothes on it looks like i have no stomach or whole lotta rolls nd such lol… i take this as a compliment cuz all it means is tht i dress properly lol… under my clothes i do have rolls nd a gut… fellas get wit it or get lost!!! whn u see me kno that i’m a big girl nd we have rolls, stomach nd everything else is usally bigger nd if ur not into tht ,cooll, jus move along.

    every person’s shape is different wht matters is how u carry urself nd dress ur self. with tht said, thick is a girls tht wears a size 10-18 nd is well porportioned above tht is considered fat or big… not to say being fat/big is bad cuz u can look jus as good as a thick girl… but to tht is the difference…

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/no_1_chevy_ryder/ no_1_chevy_ryder

    thick & fat are totally different in my opinion….It might not be evident in the dictionary…..but 2 every man there is a standard A personal idea…in size….fat..&..thick….Its a personal difference….what I think is thick might not b the same for the next man feel me…..

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/ThatGirlNitra02/ ThatGirlNitra02

    THICK & FAT ARE VERY DIFFERENT! SOME WOMEN HAVE THE NERVE TO CALL THEMSELVES THICK AND IT’S OBVIOUS THAT THEY ARE FAT; BUT ON THE OTHER HAND A WOMAN CAN HAVE AN AVERAGE SIZE MID SECTION, BIG HIPS, BIG THIGHS, BIG BUTTS, BIG LEGS ………AS LONG AS IT’S IN SHAPE, TIGHT, RIGHT AND SOLID, IT’S THICK….WHEN IT BECOMES STRETCH MARKS, DIMPLES, DOODLES, DENTS AND ALL IT’S JUST FAT..BUT TO EACH IT’S OWN, I MEAN IF YOUR’E FAT DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT; BUT DON’T PROCLAIM TO BE SOMETHING YOU’RE NOT, THAT’S WHY PEOPLE HAVE THE MISCONCEPTION THAT THICK IS FAT…WHEN IT VARIES FROM WOMAN TO WOMAN! MEN LIKE DIFFERENT TYPES OF WOMAN SO, LADIES JUST DO “YOU” AND THAT’S WHAT’S UP…..SPOKEN LIKE A TRUE TX THICK CHIC!

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/ldmillertx/ ldmillertx

    OMG!!! Is that jennifer Lopez’s real butt? It’s ridiculous. BTW, I’m thick & proud of it. I think it’s an attitude thing. I ALWAYS dress and keep myself up. Used to be much thinner but always veered on the THICK side. I think THICK is a matter of thought. It depends on your self esteem. Queen Latifa? Thick. Rosie O’Donald? Fat. Tocarra? Thick. Mandisa? Big but thick. Diva’s are thick. It’s all about attitude. Heck, I’ll walk around my guy friends in a tank top and boy shorts. Aint no shame in a fat booty & big DD titties!

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/trisha_369/ trisha_369

    As a woman in my opinion thick is when you got a flat stomach,small or med-size breast,slim waist,slim-to thick thighs, & a nice round off butt…when fat is big stomach,big breast,big thighs,flat a*s or donkey a*s. Above all things it really come down to alittle bit of everything to clearly said,rather or not if your fat or thick. Even thou I don’t see the point in this question. To me-its whatever that make you happy as a person you got to love yourself before you can expect anyone other than God to love you.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/T2003J/ T2003J

    Thick in most guys minds when they say that. Means she is a lil chubby in some areas of her body mainly in the hips, thighs, arms, breast, but doesn’t appear to be a bbw. You know a mix between skinny and fat. like the women in the photo above

    Fat is well you know a bbw big thighs, breasts, butt, chin, belly pretty much all of it. Some like thick some like the fat, and some like em thin. Me personally its just depends on how she carry herself

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/Lilmomma259s/ Lilmomma259s

    FOR THE MAN BELOW ME IM A BBW AND I WILL BE GLAD TO GIVE YOU MYMEASUREMENTS LOL…….BUT IM NOT FAT IM NOT SLOPPY……IM CURVY IM A 44DD SMALL WAIST AND BIG HIPS AND ASS…..THANK YOU……SO ALL BBWS ARE NOT WHAT YOU ARE DESCRIBING…..

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/armandx99/ armandx99

    Thick versus fat is a skin/muscle ratio. If your skin is reasonably tight, with little jiggle, but you have some size to you, you are thick. This allows for big butts, thighs, breasts, etc., and it can go from as small as 4’11″ to as tall as 6’3″. Most women who have higher bone densities or greater muscular development are naturally thinck, and will always be so, regardless of how much weight they gain or lose. Of course, the standard of a somewhat narrowed mid-section compared to everything else still applies. Sorry ladies, but if the stomach pokes out so far that it gives your body a ball-like shape, instead of a pear or hour glass, you’re probably more on the fat side. If so, don’t be discouraged. Even modelesque women get turned down, dropped, and divorced for BBW’s all the time who know how to work their s%#@! If you don’t believe me, just watch a few episodes of Cheaters.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/shindogg/ shindogg

    ive always defined ‘thick’ as slimma n da waist than da rest a chics body, followed by round broad hips dat go wit sum meaty thighs an slope n da back followed by a big round booty, sum big round tittyz. when shyit sags, looks flabby, has dimples(fat-created wrinkles), an dont curve from da neck down an she look bloated(especially n da belly area), datz fat. basically n da dark it wud feel like ha body iz a bendin highway. smooth an toned but not muscle. i shudnt feel rollz a fat noware. if her gut covers da crotch hair &/or puss, she automatically fat. aint got shyit ta do wit how she carry haself. da way she dress or act wont change ha appearance dat much. not unless she da type who look good only n clothes an neva witout.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/NeverEnough77/ NeverEnough77

    Thick women are beautiful. A classy thick woman with self control, who keeps herself up & that doesn’t mind going to the gym on the regular is alright with me. I loves me a thick black woman, first and foremost. ;-)

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/Cacteur/ Cacteur

    The “lets fight fat” industry has gone way past the ridiculous, and is now dangerous and should be completely ignored. According to modern height to weight ratios, the New Zealand national Rugby Union team, The “All Blacks”, are all regarded as dangerously over weight. They range in height from 178 cm ( 5′ 8″) to over 192 cm (6″ +) and weigh from 90 Kg (200lbs) up to 130 Kg (286 lbs) and are all solid muscle with very little fat, and, fit enough to sprint around a field non stop for 80 minutes.

    Don’t get sucked in by their garbage. If you feel good and healthy, you will be attractive to everyone. Love yourself first, then you’ll know what you need to do.

    Peace.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/Sundownkid3/ Sundownkid3

    No thick and fat are not the same to me. Thick to me means you have a big round booty. Fat to means that you have a big stomach and or a lot o cellulite . Look at Beyonce, she has a big booty and a slim waste. To me this is thick.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/fireNwater/ fireNwater

    I agree 100% with what shindogg. He pretty much covered it.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/Brittany_Boo100/ Brittany_Boo100

    Thick nd fat aren’t the same.When yur thick yu either have a pair or hour glass shape wit Nice Boobs, Round Butt && Nice Thighs. when yur fat yu dont have a shape nd majority of the time yu have no butt. it has nothing to do wit the way yu carry yurslf or what yu wear. Me, myself, Im thick nd have been since I can remember.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/dkgoodman/ dkgoodman

    hell no thick and fat are not the same thing.star jones was fat,sherry shepard is thick.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/chooseylover3/ chooseylover3

    THICK AND FAT, are not the same. A lot of fat girls started calling themselves thick to make them feel more appealing, rather than admit the obvious, that they were just way overweight. Thick, is when a woman has healthy legs, and behind (a shapely behind, not sloppy or smashed in) but has a small waist and upper body is proportionate. IT’s like when you go on dating sites, women will say they are ” a few extra pounds”, when to the rest of us, they are fat as hell. Beyonce is thick, and ladies, stop hating on her, JUST WISH YOU COULD LOOK THAT GOOD.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/dkgoodman/ dkgoodman

    some of the women on this survey are not thick or fat…

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/vianilla35/ vianilla35

    HELL I PUT TO TOU THIS WAY IM JUST PLAIN FAT,I USE TO BE JUST PLAIN SKINNY WITH size 5/6 waist stay that way till after my twins and now i cant loose weight for shytt ,so i live the skinny life got over look for years and that im fat i still gett over look ,so i am who i am a child of gods so ,d.w.i im not contaious

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/STNICK314/ STNICK314

    Fat and Thick are definetely not the same thing. Thick is when you can still see some curves and everything is still in good proportion. I person that is thick is a person that is still healthy but just has a few extra pounds. Some people are just naturally built with a heavier muscle mass. Fat is when things are just out of control and busting out in all the wrong places. Fat is when you can’t tie your own shoes and get tired just walking up one fleet of steps. Fat is when a person have neglected their bodies and it has become dangerous and unhealthy.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/candy0176/ candy0176

    They are not the same thing, but there are ranges of thick. There are women who are thick at a size 7 because they have a fat behind and there are woman who are thick at a size 16 because they have a flat stomache and fat behind. Well, I was skinny and then beyonce thick.. I got sick went on steroids and now I’m fat, but I’m still sexy as hell as a BBW woman. I think it is about attitude and confidence. Men still fall all over me. I’m still the same person. I don’t need confirmation from the public never have. You teach people how to treat you no matter what size you are. Beautiful skinny women are mistreated all the time because they don’t love themselves. No matter what size you are or what you look like there is someone who is gonna find you attractive if you love yourself.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/pclay65/ pclay65

    first off i think people should have the right to feel thick or fat what ever makes them feel good. i don’t believe in puttin any type of woman down. it’s not yo out side that makes you it is what comes from within that makes the outside. like monique for exmaple she’s a big sista but she loves herself that is what makes her beautiful.no fat and thick is not the samee thing. i believe in pleasantly plump cause a big woman can be proportion in the right places to. which some people call thick. i think thick is what beyonce is now she has went from skinny to thick. but to my big women,thick women and pleasantly plump ones. you on the inside is what makes you beautiful. silly things like this takes the beauty from the woman. God don’t make mistakes your who you are because of him and that is a mother,a sister, consin or auntie. be proud of your being and that makes you beautiful to the world. when a women loves herself no matter her body sizes she will turn heads anyway by the way she walks or smile even her talk about things will interest you. i just love women who love them. God Bless us all.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/PhilaPenn83/ PhilaPenn83

    I’m sorry there is a difference.One is healthy, one is unhealthy. More muscular girls, with a definate shape like an hourglass or coke bottlefigure, that’s thick. If you have excessive flesh hanging over your low rise jeans, if you are more than 10-12 pounds heavier than the doctor recommended weight for your height, you are fat. There is a difference between being confident in your body and being in denial about it. No one is claiming that your need to be runway model stick thin, but take care or your body. At least put in an effort to be in reasonable shape. You shouldn’t be 22 years old and struggling to make it up a flight of stairs. Seriously.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/monipeny/ monipeny

    Im 40 and i’ve know since I was a kid going to church. Seeing the sistas in their dresses, if you were a bigger woman with no shape you were fat. If you were a bigger woman or girl who had that figure 8 you were call HEALTHY which they call thick today. For white people you’re either skinny or fat. Because with them back in the day you were either flat or flatter…lol. Now white people have been eating the same as blacks and browns and its showing up in white girls with phat butts. White guys will say they are fat, but we know thats just phat.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/mzshorty29/ mzshorty29

    A LOT OF PPLE IS DUMB TO THIS FACT. THERE IS NO DIFFERENT IN BEING “FAT OR THICK” I WENT TO MEDICAL SCHOOL AND ACCORDLY TO MEDICAL FACTS A PERSON IS CONSIRDER OVER WEIGHT DEPENDING ON HEIGHT N WEIGHT COMBINED. A DOCTOR MIGHT CONSIDER A WOMAN FOR EXAMPLE SHE MIGHT BE 5″3′ IN HEIGHT AND WEIGH IN AT 150 WELL THE AVERAGE WEIGHT FOR THAT HEIGHT IS 110- 124 SO A DOCTOR WOULD DIGNOSE HER AS HER BEING OVERWIEGHT OR OBSED. THE TERMS “FAT R “THICK IS WHAT SOCIETY CALLS A SLANG WHERE ITS MORE OF COMPLIMENT. INSTEAD OF A MAN SAYING YOU HAVE A NICE BODY OR I FIND U ATTRITIVE THEY WOULD USE THE WORDS ” FAT OR THICK” TO EXPRESS THEMESELVES. A LOT OF PPLE THINK IF YOU WEIGH A CERTAIN AMOUNT U R UNHEALTHY R HEALTHY. UNTURE, THE FACT IS IT ALL DEPENDS HOW WELL U TAKE CARE OF URSELF. EXAMPLE (TRUE STORY) THERE ARE 3 BLACK WOMAN KIN 2 OF THE SISTER ARE ARE OBSED AND THE OTHER IS NOT. WELL THE NOT OBSED SISTER HAS HIGH BLOOD PRESSURE N IS DIABETIC, THE OTHER TWO COMPLETLY HEALTHY. EVEN THOUGH SOME DOCTORS WILL TELL AN OVERWEIGHT OR OBSED PERSON TO LOSE WEIGHT CAUSE LATER ON (THATS A MAYBE) CAN CAUSE MEDICAL PROBLEMS. I PERSONAL KNOW SKINNY PPLE WHO HAS LOTS OF MEDICAL PROBLEMS AND NEVER BEEN FAT DAY OF THEIR LIVES. OH YEAH ONE MORE THING DOWN HERE IN MY STATE THEY CONSIDER “FAT” TO BE A COMPLIMENT EVEN HAVEING A SPECIAL SPELLING FOR IT WHICH IS “PHAT.”

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/RedBone241/ RedBone241

    Thick vs. Fat…..

    I consider myself as Thick! If I were fat, I’d have an overenormous stomach, wouldn’t be able to do my toes,nor would I be able to see my feet! That’s fat! I can do the above and more! I’m very flexible and most thick or fat people have the most incredible flexibility. That’s a known fact!
    I’d rather be thick than thin. I get more play being who I am… I am a very confident, outgoing, passionate, empathetic, and caring person. Whether I were fat or being thick, I’d get play! :)

    So, for us thick or fat sistahs out there, keep doin what it do! :)

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/monipeny/ monipeny

    Well I never said it was based on medical fact or any study thats still based on certain race. Those BMI, BODY MASS INDEX numbers arent based on black or brown people, they’re based on white people. And anyone who has seen or used one of these BMI’s know those number don’t represent us.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/mzshorty29/ mzshorty29

    @MONIPENY MY COMMENT WAS NOT TO YOU BUT THIS ONE IS. IN YOUR LAST COMMENT THOSE INDEX NUMBERS WERE NOT BASE ON COLOR SWEETIE. GUESS WHAT? NOT ONLY BLACKS R WHITES GO THE DOCTOR OTHER MINTORTIES DOES TOO. WHEN YOU GO TO THE DOCTOR THEY WEIGH U ON A SCALE A DOCTOR CAN TAKE ONE LOOK AT U AND CAN TELL U IF YOU R OVERWEIGHT OR NOT.THEY ALSO HAVE A MECHINE THAT COUNTS YOUR FAT INTAKE IN YOUR BODY.THOSE INDEX NUMBERS DO PLAY A MAJOR PART IN THE MEDICAL INDUSTRY AND IS EFFECTIVE IN MEDICAL DIGNOSISES. FYI IN THE ARMOR U HAVE TO WEIGH A CERTAIN AMOUNT AND IF THEY CONSIDER U TO BE OVERWEIGHT THEY WILL TELL U TO GO THE DOCTOR TO LOSE THAT WEIGHT. AND GUESS WHAT? THE INDEX NUMBERS R USED TO HELP DETERMINED HOW MUCH YOU SHOULD LOOSE

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/monipeny/ monipeny

    Ok Mzshorty29

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/100th_Monkey/ 100th_Monkey

    Wow, aren’t we delusional? Exactly what is thick? Thick has absolutely nothing to do with size, thick has to do with muscle density. You can have two cups of coffee, same size cup – one cup thin and one cup thick. So thick and “fat” are not the same.

    However, some women seem to not understand the difference and use the term “thick” as a buffer term to deny the obvious. Thick, ghetto booty, Curvy, BBW, all terms to soften the blow of the reality that these women are overweight, out of shape, and without the tight jeans holding every blubbery flab in strategic positioning, stark nakedness would otherwise point to unappealing fat and flab! “I’m curvy!” No you’re not, your clothes make you appear curvy.

    Not to say that being overweight equates to not being sexy. However, somewhere down the line, women have found a way to justify their size and disproportion. I often here so-called, “thick” women chastise thinner women by saying, “No one wants a skinny chick.” It’s a defense reflex overweight women have.

    I train fitness models and figure competitors and my girls do get snide remarks from, “thick” women, they get dirty looks, they get the eye rolling, the “eww – she’s too skinny.” I’m often bewildered at the comments that this woman who is 60 pounds overweight and has managed to squeeze her flabby size 16 behind in a size 8 pair of jeans would have the moral audacity to point the finger at anyone who is in better physical shape, even on a mere cosmetic level.

    The problem is that women are calling themselves thick and you men are supporting this nonsense. You guys see an overweight woman with a watery behind, you automatically call her, “thick” instead of admitting the truth. You’re a Chubby Chaser.

    Thick is having denser “muscle” people! Not MORE fat! We black folks once called it, “solid.” She’s solid – he’s solid! Having dense leg muscles, flat abs, hard thighs is THICK! The women today calling themselves “thick” don’t have that. Look at some of your Dominican women, they’re thick. The singer Selena was thick. She had dense muscle, a small waist and tight glutes. Jessica Rabbit (Melyssa Ford) is thick, Angel Lola Luv is thick, Ki Toy is thick, Darlene Crawford is thick, Buffie The Body is thick, Vida Guerra is thick, Venus and Serena Williams are THICK!

    Men, stop telling these FAT women that they’re thick! They’re starting to believe it. This is why half of these women on here have these ridiculous photos in lingerie bending they’re flabby behind over in their camera phone. It’s bordering on absurd. Ladies, you can still be sexy and be overweight. No one is denying you of that but please cut the nonsense. Some of us men know the difference between thick and solid, and fat and flabby.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/berrell717/ berrell717

    thick to me is big hips, thighs, butt, a c cup, no gut a brick house …idea of this type: Serena Williams

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/dexture1/ dexture1

    being a young black man i when i think of the two types phat or thick; here my opion on both fat woman is a woman who has more ass, breast, and thighs than a skinny woman right or wrong. a thick woman is well rounded her breast look like watermelons , her thighs look like ice cream on a hot sunny day and her ass is nice phat and tight you can bounce a quarter off of it. well thats how i define both.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/lareds/ lareds

    Fat is ass in front and back. Thick is a person with proportions in the right places and large bones.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/King_Felix/ King_Felix

    who cares i love them all dam deelishis looks good i just don’t want a star jones chick

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/Knowledge629/ Knowledge629

    With me being a big girl myself, I have been called all types of names under the sun! Even when I made reference to myself as being “fat”, a man would come behind and tell me otherwise. Now I myself know that I am overweight, but I am tall, so it tends to look otherwise depending on what I am wearing. But I too have curvy hips and thick thighs with the gut and the rolls too…lol…so where do I fit in, because I can wear some things that other plus sized women cannot, or shouldnt wear!

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/buddylight/ buddylight

    only black people use the term thick, you ask any white dude they will say mariah is fat, black dude will say she is thick azz hell, now monique is fat, she still can get it though

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/3iiiE/ 3iiiE

    all beautiful ethnic women…thick beautiful ethnic women…

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/RAGLANDIV/ RAGLANDIV

    As I see it, a “thick” woman is a little larger than the “norm” but carries it very well and is toned and proportionate whereas I a “fat” woman doesn’t have quite the symmetry and her extra weight truly does do her a dis-service as it makes her unattractive.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/Jones257/ Jones257

    these actress are Huge. T.V. makes people look real good, so the hottest people in the world are those we see day to day.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/nativebootie187/ nativebootie187

    I think it’s the swagga some people have 2 wear certain things & still look classy and decent…that to me is thick…minus rolls in certain places

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/msluciousb/ msluciousb

    Well, my first impression is to just say WTF, but as a full figure DIVA, I just have to “weigh in” on this subject. Of late it seems to be a “hot topic” and again women are being made to feel they have to justify their body images. First it is Neo calling out big girls, he even said Beyonce was a big girl, guess that is why her pic is up above, now here we go again.
    It is a subjective term to be called “Fat” or “thick” or “Plus” sized since the average woman in
    America is a size 14 or more. The idea that thin is beautiful and “Fat” is disgusting is a European concept, no other country in the world puts so much pressure on women to hate themselves if they don’t look like the top models. Now I have been “Fat” over 250 and now I am just thick, if you have ever been one or the other you know the difference. Thick is to fat , what Petite is to average size, so lets get one thing out in the open…If you are healthy and happy with yourself, exude confidence and style “Swagga” you shouldn’t let labels trip you up! Real women look like me and the other sister’s you see everyday. Women are starving in the caucasian community to fit an ideal whose time has come and gone. Down south you are called “Big and Fine” or “Healthy” the same is true in Africa and most of the Caribbean countries…CURVES…vuluptousness…junk in the trunk (I prefer treasure in my trunk) is an admirable trait, only turned ugly by small minded people and shallow men! Don’t buy into it, define your own beauty!
    BBW’s sexy for life! Like black don’t crack…plump doesn’t wrinkle, I’ll keep my curves thanks very much!
    one love, many blessings!

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/SEARCH09/ SEARCH09

    Some people regardless of weight look just awful from every angle. MONIQUE,you funny and all but WHAT IS YOU DOING IN PIC 28?BLOOOODY HELL!
    Yeah yeah yeah white men would consider any women who isnt white “fat”.Well guess what us black women THINK of WHITE MEN…they either too much bones,METH HEADS with fake ARS CHARACTERISTICS.-POOOW
    Its not our fault that Black women’s bodies are shaped differently,genetics.We are not LONG BACKED.LETS keep it moven if you prefer that pancake ars.
    I wouldnt give a white man my time nor day even if he was to volunteer to clean my toilet with HIS tongue…smh @the comment pertaining to white men as if WE care what THEY think of us LOL.

    Now as I was saying…After quickly reviewing all the photos above.uuhhh, I have to say that them ladies up there, are either getting a little more than thick or their loosing too much weight.TOCARA has lost too much weight but she would look pretty no matter what size she is.size 24 or size 4-Good to see her attempting to reduce having future heart attacks, diabetes, and high blood pressure.GO TOCARA!!! star jones on the other hand should call it a day.No more pills for you sweety.The weight loss isnt doing her any justice.

    Monique,Queen Latif,Raven,Jill Scott,Jen hudson seem to be comfortable with their weight.They been that weight for a MINUTE,and it doesnt look like its going to disappear anytime soon.

    Oprah,Tyra and Ashanti seem to fluctuate with their weight.You NEVER KNOW with these ladies.

    Foxy looks bloated.Serena,I luv ya but is it my eyes or is she just look’n exceedingly…MANLY holding that hand bag?
    The rest are considered thick but has what I call the FAT POTENTIAL.like, 4 example,Alysia WHAT HAPPENED?
    Well, weight is a struggle SOOO this display confirms that even THEY are human and go through things. ;-)
    This also goes for you BOBBY BROWNS out there.Fellas youll bodies are not always IN SYNC with the so-called norm so some of youll need to REALLY just stop.wow

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/DAREALRECKLESS/ DAREALRECKLESS

    *EXAMPLE**** you people really need to get a life

    From: cherronw Sex: Female Location: Lenexa, KS Age: 30 Last Login: 23 mins agYou should get a job. You really didn’t hit a nerve I just hate stupid a** people. I like to argue so I can go on forever dude. Your generation is full of idiots and I am saddened to think of what the world will be like if the future is in the hands of people like you. Seriously though, I’m sorry about your dad.—— Original note ——From: DAREALRECKLESSTo: cherronwSubject: Re: your stupidityROFLMAOeye see eye hit a nerve. eye didn’t mean to hurt your feelings over the internet. eye’m sorry. this isn’t that big of a deal to me. eye run into “full of $hit” people like you EVERYDAY on the net. you should really get a life or a hobby

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/Meehsuee/ Meehsuee

    The only one that was on that list that was FAT was Monique. That s**t is NOT thick. Come on big girls you know the difference between the two. When you can’t cross your less that s**t if fat no thick.
    When you walk up several flights of steps and you breathe heavy that is fat not thick.
    If you have more greasy food in your daily intake and cookies and cakes that will lead to FAT not thick.

    Get it right, keep it tight.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/sensualseduction1986/ sensualseduction1986

    The difference is obvious to me. It really depends on how you carry your weight. Also you can’t go by pounds. There are women who are 5’9 and 200 hundred pounds which is actually thick in my opinion, but a woman who is 5’2 and 200 pounds is most likely not thick. Beyonce is thick, Monique is fat (beautiful but she is a big girl), Alicia Keys is thick, Queen Latifah is fat. It really depends on the person. I have been called both but every dude is different so I determine what I am and that’s “HUMAN”!!!!

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/dondadda_11422/ dondadda_11422

    I’m tired of America showing all these starved out anorexics posing them as sex symbols. Bony and skinny rail thin women look sickly not sexy. Too many people have this stupid Barbie syndrome. It’s a doll dummies. Stop modeling fictitious characters.

    All the women in the picture above are thick accept for the blond one whose passing because she hugging the other girl and bent over.

    Thick women are curvaceous. They come in medium, large and larger. They have more curves than I-95. Examples of thick women: Beyonce, Lisa Raye, Deelishis from flavor of love, Rapper Trina, Mary J. Blidge, and Alicia Keys.

    Now as far as a fat women are concerned they come in different sizes as well. They can be medium extra-padded, Large, larger and largest. Both groups are beautiful. Examples of fat women or plus size women are: Queen of comedy star Mo’nique, Queen of Soul Aretha Franklin, Jennifer Hudson, Chrisette Michelle, Angie Stone, Jazmine Sullivan, and Kirstie Alley.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/Azaria99/ Azaria99

    dondadda must be toaken! Chrisette Michelle and Jazmine Sullivan are NOT FAT. They don’t have that nasty cellulite @ss that deelishis has, don’t let those airbrushed photos fool you. You can see the cellulite through her clothes, that’s fat. Jazmine Sullivan just has a larger frame than some of the ladies mentioned and pictured but still appears to have a FLAT stomach. And, when Chrisette came out see was smaller than she is now but still not at all fat. There are a lot of “skinny” chicks out here with big guts and nasty butts. People watch too much T.V. Celebrities are chosen because they are of a certain type, not because they are representative of a population or majority. Ignorance is BLISS!!

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/kbneville/ kbneville

    Myself personally, I think this is just totally stupid. But each is to their own. I realize that I’m a plus size woman {fat if you must call it that} and I think that nobody’s opinion of you should matter so long as YOU’RE confortable with who you are.

    There are some people that let these things run their lives, but there are some that hear it but keep it movin anyways. I fall into the latter catagory because you’re opinion is valued, but I won’t let it run my life.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/FieSTY05GyRL/ FieSTY05GyRL

    Be that as a may,I am indeed petite with a nice ass and I f**kin love it and I dont need to have all these surgeries and implants to make myself feel good I’ll go up against any Woman rather she’s fat or thick,because thats how confident I am about myself,Its all about how u feel about yourself f**k what anybody else thinks!

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/CaliFemme23/ CaliFemme23

    Thick and Fat are NOT the same…It irks my nerves when FAT chicks like Mo’Nique, Q-Latifah etc…refer to themselves as ‘thick’ women…We all know the word Thick implies to women who have CURVES…not stomachs hanging everywhere, arms flappin, when they tuck thier blouses in you cant tell whether they comin or goin. I am a ‘thick’ woman, 38D-29-46..no where near fat…I do agree that the same exact heights and weights can carry totally different looks. Thick is just simply put as a woman with curve no matter how much she weighs..as long as its not sloppy, sorry Mo’Nique is sloppy..and I really wish she would stop saying she wears a size 14!!! I am 5ft9, 180lbs..I wear a size 14 and it disgusts me when people lie about their looks…

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/Happypeoplecan/ Happypeoplecan

    Serena Williams is a perfect example of a thick women! She’s not fat anywhere, She just has it all in the right places!!!

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/delited2b/ delited2b

    Ive read many of the ignorant posts here related to this topic. Many of you should really read more. There are many overweight people that are healthy. Then there are many so called “healthy weight” that arent healthy at all. Im a BBW. All of my friends are small chicks. I can pull em when they cant. And many of them have high blood pressure, high cholesterol, diabetes- and so on. Most ignorant people associate these medical conditions with being overweight. Black people, please educate yourselves. Also, take a look in the mirror. In parting, I would like to share something that I came across and was so inspired after reading it.
    (Apr 14, 2008)

    by “Large Marge”

    I’m a woman and I’m fat.

    After you stop gasping in horror, grow the f*ck up and deal with it. You don’t buy my food, my clothes, nor do you fill my car with gas so piss on your self-righteous indignation. I pay for my own health care so stop trying to blame me for your rising insurance premiums. I’m tired of hearing your false platitudes about how I should lose weight for my health. Stop ASSuming I don’t eat healthy food and exercise just because I’m fat. While you’re at it, stop ASSuming thin people are always healthy too.

    If you don’t like the way I look stop whining; do the adult thing and simply look away. Contrary to what you’ve been told, I don’t have an unspoken obligation to please your eyes. And for your information I bathe at least once a day during the Winter, and twice a day during the Summer so stop curling your nose up. The only thing that stinks around here is your putrid attitude. Screwing your face up like that only makes me look even better because baring your teeth in disgust makes you look like a rabid hairless chihuahua.

    No, I don’t hate skinny b***hes. All true b***hes are worthy of respect. It’s superficial skinny c**ts I can’t stand, right along side superficial fat f*cks. Just because I’m fat doesn’t mean I have to listen to you whine about your eating disorder to prove I am not prejudiced against thin people. I have my own eating habits to keep in check without being burdened by someone else’s deliberate food f*ck ups. I’m fat, not a professional sympathizer for the self-labeled “pretty people” who throw up, starve, snort coke, or do whatever stupid things to stay thin. I’m not anti-thin, I’m anti-enabling people to act stupid without criticism.

    Being fat doesn’t mean I have to prove my worth by nurturing everyone; including every professional victim and f*ckwit that thinks my precious time should be spent listening to their complaints of the unfairness of the Universe. Just because I’m fat it doesn’t mean I drop everything I’m doing right then and there because you feel entitled to consolation on my big fat boobs. My big fat boobs aren’t nearly big enough to console all the sh*theads of the world, so space is exclusively reserved for the people who really do deserve my sympathy.

    No, I don’t want to meet any loser friends of your boyfriends who can’t find a date. Just because I’m fat, it doesn’t mean I’m less than a woman and therefore deserve less than a real man. Save your pathetic substandard matchmaking for the whacked out druggie twit across the street. Maybe she’ll have a use for the bitter, broke, and divorced sod you have handy.

    While I’m on the subject, just because I’m fat it doesn’t mean I should date old, butt ugly, or used up men because they think fat chicks are easy and can’t get any better. I’m fat, not an alternative f*ck to settle for; nor am I a fan of self-debasing sex. Being fat doesn’t mean I’m obligated to entertain rejected men until the woman of their dreams comes along. Being fat also doesn’t mean I’m so desperate for male attention I’ll take it from someone who graduated with my grandfather.

    Don’t think calling yourself a chubby chaser will make me feel flattered, or more confident in your attraction to me. If you aren’t attracted to my personality; then you’re just as superficial as the himbos chasing after skinny c**ts. If you really do get wood from fat girls, then you won’t need to announce it. I’ll find out one way or another when I see what kind of girls you check out on a habitual basis. Dismissing my bad reaction as petty jealousy just reinforces the fact that you tried to get into my pants by being a lying piece of sh*t. And no, liking just my personality is not enough to move on to a sexual level. Just because I’m fat it doesn’t mean I don’t deserve real attraction, passion, or lust. I don’t want someone to claim me now because they think I’ll lose weight later and live up to their typical expectations.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/100th_Monkey/ 100th_Monkey

    Azaria99, cellulite does not make you fat. Cellulite is not only localized, (back of the thighs and abs), but it relates to the lipids in the skin, not adipose fat! It’s a genetic dimpling on the skin. The reason why it’s prevalent in women is because estrogen and stress are what aggravates it. It’s a big misconception that cellulite is fat. Thin women can also have cellulite. Fat is fat and dense muscle is dense muscle. Cellulite is a cosmetic issue not aesthetics. As I said before, the term “thick” refers to density, not size! Density like “solid” refers to muscle mass, not blubbery fat. We are in here coming up with our own personal definitions of “thick,” and that’s fine but understand that we will never agree. However, there is an actual definition of the word, “thick” and that definition describes a woman like Serena Williams or Melyssa Ford, not a woman who is 190 pounds size 38 DD, with no obvious or visible waistline or visual markers to differentiate upper torso from lower torso, and with watery flab bursting through her jeans. That’s not thick – that’s a can of biscuits that has split open and oozing out the cracks.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/single_housewife/ single_housewife

    i dnt like that on star… thats not thick or fat…. nasty… just i know that she cant help it(she can do something about it) but natrually she cant! thats it…

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/RichNSpirit/ RichNSpirit

    I think it is definitely a difference between being “Fat” and “Thick.” Somewhere along the line the word “fat” was confused with “phat.” People really started using that term when the rapper “Luke” first brought all those strippers into his act. The result of this brought birth to the term “Thick Like A Luke Dancer.” Therefore if you are thick like a luke dancer you sure as Hell don’t look like Monique or Neil Carter.

    I’m actually glad this topic was brought up because I have noticed over the years how fat girls tend to discribe themselves as thick. I’m not hating on the fat girls but you need to use these terms correctly for what they actually mean. Because people will then say that you lying about how you actually look. This is the main reason I stopped going on blind dates. When a blind date starts to discribe themselves by saying “I’m what you call thick,” make sure to add 40 or more pounds to what you are invisioning her to look like. A man is going to be thinking of what a “Luke” dancer looks like. So if you know you are not shaped like a “Luke” dancer don’t use “thick” to discribe yourself. Telling a guy that you have a “little extra baggage” or that you are “pleasantly plump” is probably a nicer way to discribe a fat girl.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/NeverEnough77/ NeverEnough77

    Thick is someone who is naturally full figured and curvy but works a little or a lot to keep the weight down and keep their beauty up. People can be thick in the legs, arms, etc and still be sexy. Especially if their is minimal stomach or mid section.

    Fat is either a disorder or an excuse.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/sylkiifeather/ sylkiifeather

    are we really still on this topic?? *smh*……………….

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/nogames043/ nogames043

    My problem with that question is that anyone who loves themselves will not say I’m fat unless they believe what other people have told them all their lives. Me myself would never say in the public eye I’m fat because that would make some ppl think its ok to say it too, which is considered fighting words. Just as if someone called you a boney b the word is like the N word and never used as a compliment. Some ppl can be called plus size or full-figured but most ppl who never had a problem with their weight would just say FAT, cause not only do they not understand how that makes a person feel but they think they will never in a million years have that same problem. My answer is some are not as sexy when theyre bigger than usual but some ppl just look funny when youve always seen them as big. The real deal is that if youre labeled as fat it means like what BIG used to say, most ppl find it repulsive, disgusting and a turn-off not hot or do-able or even voluptuous just not a good look, but there are plenty of ladies and gents who wear it well but even though its not true that all big folks arent sloppy it still is true that if you gain more weight than can go unnoticed most ppl will say thats nasty or look at them they look horrible , just cause they dont want to gain any weight it makes some ppl afraid of what a body can do if you dont maintain a healthy diet or work out constantly or purge for those whose looks depend on their popularity. Thank GOD we are not all the same and all men dont love slim women and visa-versa.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/2daTopnonStop/ 2daTopnonStop

    Easy~ Mo’nique FAT
    Beyonce~Thick

    In the modeling industry plus size models begin on the low scale at sixe 10/12 and go up to size 26.

    Still you need to be tight and PORPORTIONED to pass for “thick” If you are shaped like a rectangle or beach ball you are fat~
    It is what it is~

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/blksouthern_belle/ blksouthern_belle

    2 answer your question- no, i don’t think they are the same. Someone can be healthy and thick..(still can roc a 2 pc swimmingsuit) as oppose to fat w/ rollz well u know the rest

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/SundaeNight/ SundaeNight

    OMG! Some of these articles bore me, but I read anyway at times. I didn’t read this one, by the way. What I saw was different sizes of beautiful women being put on the “spot” again. Showing women at bad angles-stop it. Where are your photos? What is thick or fat for a man? Where are their photos? Talk about their images. They need to represent also, right? I was 150lbs August 5 and now I’m at 135 with a piece of flab in the middle that I’m trying to lose for myself! After the holiday I maybe 150lbs or plus! I’m I thick or thin? I don’t GIVE A DA*M ABOUT WHAT PEOPLE THINK OR FEEL ABOUT ME! I DO TRY TO LOOK AND FEEL HEALTHY AND GOOD FOR ME! But I think everybody knows what FAT and THICK looks like. If everything is bouncing and giggling alot that’s fat! If it’s alot, but it’s tight and in control it’s thick, like Serena or Queen Latifa, who are both beautiful – than it’s thick! Now show me some sexy Fat and Thick men!

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/KINGOFBX1/ KINGOFBX1

    thick is a variety of shapes like pear or hour glass,fat is one shape round

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/juicyfruit179/ juicyfruit179

    hello my name is juicy i strongly do not believe in thick women being called fat fat is a human or anything else that is real big to a point that they stomach is hanging out of there shirt half way down there leg or a person that has a lot of fat rolls and they have on a half shirt and they rolls are uncontrollable and can not be tuck in thick women has a shape fit body nice hips a little on the small side on there tummy and there shape is nice thick and formed with a big ass

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/100th_Monkey/ 100th_Monkey

    To delited2b,

    I’m not sure who Large Marge is, but it appears to me that she is very bitter and with a clear and concise attitude of indignation. Why she feels compelled to have strewn her anger at the rest of the world is beyond me. In my industry I come across many unhealthy women with this sort of same defense mechanism and reflex to instantly start pleading their case in an attempt to relay to anyone within an ear shot that they’re not fat and unhealthy. Well, some of us aren’t as gullible. Health and fitness leaves no room for interpretation or gray areas. You are either healthy or unhealthy, in shape or out of shape. There ARE various levels and degrees of the two polar opposites, but understand that there is no middle ground. And I am always amused at women (usually overweight women and usually overweight black women) who will try to bridge the gap, create some middle ground, have their cake and eat it too (literally!) Well, it doesn’t exist!

    African American women make up 48% of the overweight and obese population in America, compared to 30.7 percent for adult white women. In the African American community, black women make up 78% of the overweight people and 50.8% of the obese population, and that’s according to data from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention and American Obesity Association (in case you wish to check my references). And before anyone ignorantly says, “it’s conspiracy, the white man fudged numbers,” The Office of Minority Health (operated by black and Hispanic medical professionals) did it’s own independent inquiry and found the same numbers. The reasons for the very high prevalence of obesity among African American women are 1. Lifestyle, 2. Lack of proper diet, 3. Inactivity or lack of exercise, and 4. now read this carefully, 4. Denial. Shall I write it again? DENIAL! Meanwhile, we have these women going around calling themselves, “thick.”

    It is absolutely true that overweight people do not eat as healthy as they should. Sometimes by no fault of their own. Many people do not know or even understand proper nutrition and intake, portion size, frequency, caloric intake, glycemic indexing. However, there is plenty of FREE information in our society where there is no excuse for ignorance, laziness, or inability to seek information.

    Large Marge is very volatile and it seems to me that her fire and brimstone reflects not so much her response to society’s critical eye, but more so her own personal demons and as a result, she is arming herself with as much psychological padding as she can in hopes of softening the blow of the reality that she IS fat, overweight, unhealthy. People aren’t ass prejudice against fat or obese people as we are led to believe. However, it is the fat and obese population itself that is keeping the perpetuation going. It’s almost as if they have to create an unnecessary evil (thin) to justify themselves. I’m not questioning the content of her character and I do not believe anyone in here is, or was questioning the character or spirit of an overweight woman. I am also not denying that overweight women are beautiful.

    You said, “There are many overweight people that are healthy.” I am interested in knowing how you came to this conclusion? Is this your professional observation or is this a personal theory? If you are speaking healthy as in, “level of medical health” that is relevant and can apply to anyone regardless of aesthetics. Even in the medical sense, being overweight CAUSES health problems and concerns. Everything from toxicity build up, poor digestion, fatty tissues that overburdens the endocrine system, change in thyroid system, arthritis, asthma, high blood pressure, high cholesterol, gallstones, diabetes, heart disease, pregnancy complications, menstrual problems and the list goes on. Being overweight isn’t just an appearance issue, it’s also a medical issue Almost half of fat people actually believe they are healthy. The reason why is that we have a tendency to judge ourselves against other people rather than by actual weight guidelines, leaving much room for personal modification and defining our own words. The very thing this, mysterious Large Marge is doing.

    If you are speaking of, ”healthy” in terms of overall physical fitness, then that was a very delusional statement that was made in your post. Physically, being overweight can cause poor stamina and endurance, weakening of bones and painful joints (elbows and knees), lower back issues. How you can come to the conclusion that overweight people are healthy is beyond me. I’ve trained everyone from overweight people to professional athletes for the past 14 years and I have yet to come across a healthy “fat” individual. You have to be careful when you make these types of statements. Statements like this is what desensitizes people to the reality that over half of our black women are overweight. We should come to terms with our present state of health and try to come together to do something about it, help ourselves, preserve ourselves instead of being in denial and creating fancy, “terms” to hide what it really is . . . a problem in our community.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/wincie/ wincie

    thick to me is something that is almost impossible to accomplish unless you have a good personal trainier and you do the right exercises. thick is shape like an hour glass. medium/thick thighs well porportion ass. C-D cup breast. flat or small gut tummy.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/V0racii0usKrii0la127/ V0racii0usKrii0la127

    100th_monkey…valid points but please shut the hell up

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/100th_Monkey/ 100th_Monkey

    V0racii0usKrii0la127

    Well that was just damn goofy and uncalled for! Then I’ll say you, log the hell off and don’t read!

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/missluv24/ missluv24

    true enuff,some ppl have way too much time on their hands..and im not speaking about the writer of this article,im talking about ppl who sit and write an article inside of an article.although beauty is only skin deep,i can shed some light on this situation.in my mind,a thick woman is one that is properly proportioned starting with the smaller upper body and the heavier lower body(preferably more hips and thighs)something to the resemblance of a “coke bottle” one might say.however..you can be coke bottle friendly and still be overweight…more than looking good, you should also feel good…dont change yourself to fit “hollywood’s” image because most of those freaks are unhappy anyway!!! later dude!!

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/_UnStoPable_/ _UnStoPable_

    People really need to chill with the long comments.Isnt anyone going to read that mess.what ever happened to a couple paragrphs?You all should agree to disagree.the distinction is quite simple.fat is fat and there is no concealing that.hop around in your house,if you notice a whole lot jiggling..than what would you say?also if you are no longer able to see your waistline..stop living in denial and stop pretending that you are happy fat.nobody prays to be fat. work towards being healthy.fat is no way in hewll close to healthy,it may be in your little world but once you are 66 and you’re being diagnosed with all these health related diseases,the joke will be on your behind.Thick people can distinguish their waistline.keep it right,keep it tight.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/Sub-Negro/ Sub-Negro

    That picture of Star Jones blinded me for a few minutes! DAmn what’s up wit all these novels on here and sh!t? And how on earth can Serena Williams be fat when she is a world class athlete? That makes know sense at all. And RAven Symone can get it and she worth a good 400 million too plus she only 23.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/justineclayton/ justineclayton

    thick is when you have big thighs and butt but you have a small waist and your tummy is flat, basically a pear shaped.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/BigGyrl/ BigGyrl

    I think the description should be left to the person that is being described. We as a people should embrace all sizes as beautiful but society will not let it be that simple. I remember watching Rip the Runway and LL Cool J said it best. We shouldn’t use plus size, we should use Size Sexy because whatever the size, my sistas are all sexy!

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/SoSexxiMeMe/ SoSexxiMeMe

    Thank you for ALL THAT, 100_Monkey! For those of us intelligent enough to read more than 2 sentence comments and intellectually smart enough to discern your comments, I applaud you for all that you said! Well done!

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/BlackMiss62/ BlackMiss62

    Wow@100th_Monkey! THANK YOU!!! You TOTALLY broke it all down and I couldn’t agree more! Keep the intelligence coming baby! Keep it coming!

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/BlackMiss62/ BlackMiss62

    Yes, _UnStoPable_ …people really DO read (comprehend and appreciate) that (long winded and intelligently written) *mess!* But you also broke it down too, for those who can’t quite hold it together long enough to read well written verse. Those are the ADDA’s…Attention Deficit Disordered ADULTS (who never got tested)! LOL…

    Give some of these folks a novel that is past two pages and they’ll have a whole caniption! They would never make it through college reading and research writing or an Oprah Book Club for that matter….and that’s a damn shame. 100th_Monkey was above most’s heads.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/100th_Monkey/ 100th_Monkey

    Thank you for those who have the attention span larger than a billy goat to read past a few sentences. That’s the problem with black people now, no one wants to read anything and we’re so quick to dismiss and tell other people with pertinent information to shut the hell up. No one in here should be the word count police. Either read it or don’t read it, respond or don’t respond. This is discouraging and enough to break a person’s spirit. We can’t even come online and put our heads together to help each other. Too busy trying to demoralize each other. So, I’ll leave everyone to their own devices and hope we figure it out one day. Thanks BlackMiss and SoSexiMeMe. Hope to see you around.

    Rob

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/PlotThickens/ PlotThickens

    Damn! Yall chicks Unstopable, missluv and that other chick with them damn letters and numbers in her name should be embarrassed trying to silence intelligent brothers on here. Maybe ya’ll don’t get tired of unintelligent, mumbling mouth, uneducated brothers on here but I do and 100monkey is a breath of fresh air. It’s about time someone came in here and instead of giving their opinion and running off at the mouth, they actually brought some real knowledge and facts. 100th my good looking brother, keep the info flowing and don’t let these silly bit-ch-es with reading disorders discourage you from coming in here. Some of us in here appreciate it. Like they use to say, if you want to hide something from a ni-g-g-er, just put it in a book! Now with that said, I consider myself thick but im realistic, I know I have some fat to loose. Like the brother was saying, I’m not in tip top shape and neither are most of yall chicks. LMAO

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/kraycarr/ kraycarr

    All of them were Thick, some where super Thick….Mo nique and Star Jones were fat..lol

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/PrettyBrwn21/ PrettyBrwn21

    Being that I am a thick female myself, I say does it matter. People act like thick or “fat” women are a disease. And the thing about it is, that most of us “thick” females have big bone structures. I would look like a crack head being 6′ tall weighing 125 lbs. Confidence takes a person a long way. Almost every woman that was showed in the pictures featured above are thick females. It does have alot to do with how you carry yourself though. I just get tired of people singling out thick women. We are people.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/anjanettepotter1/ anjanettepotter1

    Whatever happenend to the term “pleasingly plump”. Fat (w/out the “ph”) is such a harsh term.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/pclay65/ pclay65

    damn monkey ok you may have these other women on here callin eachother b***hes but it is not about how smart you are. this is about thick or fat. that smart s**t can be save for sumthing else. you write a whole book on a question about women. key word i could care less about that other s**t these thirsty females talkin oh he’s smart. you could neva know a woman like a woman. just give yo view and keep it at that. this was not a question on college or anything like that or nothing to put your heads together about. it’s just a person point of view. the woman that called another a b***h for her point a view about you. wasn’t very damn smart herself. this is about women and she gets on here protecting a man. how thirsty are you for real anywho much love.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/single_409/ single_409

    fat usually means big and sloppy. thick is usuall big hips and thighs along with shapely legs. Proportion is the key. Star Jones is neither thick nor fat, just UGH! Jill Scott and Raven-Symone is uber thick, voluptous, top and bottom. Im tall and thick. I have a small waist, big hips, butt and thighs, curvy legs. I consider myself part of the itty bitty titty committee even thought i’m a C cup. Its just that the bottom is bigger than the top.
    I hope this gives more definition to this whole issue.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/Tsunami_Mami85/ Tsunami_Mami85

    Who the f**k cares??? We all grown on here. We all know the f**king difference between thick and fat. I used to be thick in HS, but got prego, now I’m fat. Sure, I could get back to thick, but I’m happy the way I am now so f**k it!! All this comparing notes and s**t ya’ll doin don’t make no sense. Tell you this: I can walk up at 3 flights of stairs before I get winded but I believe that’s only because I smoke like a pack day, I can do my own toes with no problem, and I can still look down and see my pucci. So, to some of you, I’m thick, to some of you I’m fat. But guess what: none of that s**t matters cause to me I’m BEAUTIFUL and that’s all that matters.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/sexybabyface_1/ sexybabyface_1

    Here is the issue with that first and foremost that terminology was brought about by women who didn’t want to admit to being big and beautiful and men who didn’t want to admit to being interested in a women over societies weight limit. We as women have been through every term in regards to weight to categorize us, there’s been chubby, chunky, flabby, hippie, big bone etc. And now there’s this but since it’s out there it is best that people learn the difference or the lack thereof. Thick is considered to be a female with shapely thighs, and legs with a booty to match but she has a small women’s figure at the top. Fat which is a word i don’t care for to much but will embrace any day of the week is considered big all over. Now these are the perceptions of others. But here is the real truth there is no big difference thick is a shapely Big girl she ranges anywhere from 195 and up but she is still a big girl regardless. I’m thick some might even call me fat but i know i’m sexy which makes men know i’m sexy too. I AM A SEXY THICK BIG GIRL and all the ladies out there know that your the same your attitude makes a difference. how you see you is how they see you. Remember Monique said “Fat is no longer a word used to hurt us but a word we embrace and mean Fabulous and Thick!” Ladies know it

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/sexybabyface_1/ sexybabyface_1

    retract the 195 it was suppose to be 165

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/Alyssa_Keys/ Alyssa_Keys

    JUST BECAUSE YOU GOT A FAT azz doesnt mean your thick…. just because you have a shaply body doenst mean your thick… I define fat as anyone severly overweight with health problems caused by the unhealthy life led… I define thick as anyone overweight by more than 20 lbs who doesnt have problems with health caused by weight… but that is just one womans opinion

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/PlotThickens/ PlotThickens

    @clay65, no one has me calling anyone anything that I can’t do on my own. You’re right, it’s not about how smart you are and I never said that. It is tho about how much of a jacka$$ people are to attack someone BECAUSE they may have a little more to say on a topic than you or some chick who is too damn lazy to read but has the audacity to try to put someone on blast. You or no one else in here can tell anyone else how much to write. You aint got to read the $hit. You can keep it moving yourself, drop your little paragraph and push the hell on, I aint stopping you. But for someone who wants to take a little more time and give his or her views, opinions or whatever, that’s their right too without being chastised for it. So yeah, people in here act like little intimidated b-i-t-c-h-e-s and I’m not just talking about the females either. Aint nobody riding that man’s jock, but if what he said it true to me and others then who cares how long it is? Lord forbid we ask a n-i-g-g-e-r to read huh? Ya”ll on some dumb s.h.i.t! Now do you want to get back to the topic and stop hating or do you want to keep this silly s.h.i.t. going?

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/th3livinmatrix/ th3livinmatrix

    No it’s definitely not the same, thick is all in how u carry the weight that u have, if u have a really thick body, like ur big in the breats department and big in the thigh and booty department, but small in the stomach department, that is thick, but if u have ur gut hangin all out and wearin s**t that’s too small on purpose to show off ur girth, then u r fat, not just fat tho, fat and sloppy, thickness is all in the assets, fat is ALL OVER!!! and I know a lot of y’all females have things to cover up the bulky areas, that’s fine, to me that is still considered thick, u can have a gut, but it’s all in how u carry urself, like Retribusia, that’s FAT, Jazmine Sullivan that’s thick, it’s all in how u present urself that determines if u r thick, or big girl status, or if u just fat and sloppy and nasty lookin, and it’s not just big girls that can be thick, the small petite girls can be thick too, like Mya, she’s thick cuz she small but she got a nice size ass, and very very shapely thighs, it’s all sorts of different sizes out there, but it’s all in how u present urself that makes u thick, fat, skinny, petite, or just average… so no fat and thick r not the same thing

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/100th_Monkey/ 100th_Monkey

    I want to apologize to everyone if I stirred up any trouble. It was not my intentions. All I did was come in and give my point of view about the topic and I was told to shut the hell up for it. I don’t come here to try to prove how smart I am or anything of that sort. If I come across as preachy, I don’t do it on purpose. I really don’t. If I’m long winded it’s because I’m passionate about a topic, especially this one. I’m a certified personal trainer and registered dietitian so I thought by sharing my ideas, and some stats, someone would benefit or appreciate it. I didn’t plan to irritate anyone. I read my post again just now and maybe I was a little preachy and self righteous. I’m sorry. Sometimes it takes going back and reading it again to see it. To the other lady (can’t recall her name), I apologize for snapping at you in my response. I was being defensive because three people all attacked me at once for doing nothing more than writing. If they debated what I said, I’d understand but what they were attacking me for wasn’t the content of my post, it was because I wrote too much. To PlotThicken, I appreciate it, but I’m not worried about it. So, I’ll just stay out and it’s all good. I come here to share ideas with my people and even I know when I’ve overstayed my welcome. I’m really not about drama and I’m a good dude, so, it’s all good everyone. I’m on BP still, so if anyone wants to be friends, I’m not against that. Take care – peace!

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/IzzyDeadboy/ IzzyDeadboy

    hell mo it aint the same first PHAT and FAT id so different.thats the problem right there.u can be thick (same as PHAT) or u can just be fat

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/toodelicious4u/ toodelicious4u

    Come on u guys!!! Ofcorse there’s a difference! Thick is usually when u have a small stomach with those thick thies. Your body is kinda portioned out better. Than a fat chick’s body is a little whider than a thick chick. The fat body is a little less portioned sometimes. Theres always different kinds of thick and fat. For example we have the skinny thick chick, than the perfect thick chick, than we got the, uma be fat after the next thanksgiven meal thick chick. Than we got the fat chick that carries her weight well and looks good with it, than last but not least, we got the ones that are just careless and are lettn their meat flow all over the place! LOL. Dont take it personal.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/sexeeblk/ sexeeblk

    i totally agree w/ Alyssa_Keys….I’m healthy, not fat ,but b/c i’m only 5’3″ I’m 25 lbs overweight 4 my height…I’m suppose 2 b like 120 and I’m 145…I make every check up…my doctor says I’m very healthy in my mid 20s but it’s my body mass that causes me 2 be overweight 4 my height and I consider myself thick..measurements 42-33-46

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/sylkiifeather/ sylkiifeather

    @ 100th_Monkey…why are you apologizing to idiots?? no need to do so….please take that apology back.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/diviine04/ diviine04

    I think the difference goes with top heavy and bottom heavy. I am 5’9 1/2, my assets fall in the bottom, legs, and breast. I guess it’s thick cause when you gain weight it goes to the parts men like. If it goes to stomach, back, arms, it’s fat.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/Sheltwon3/ Sheltwon3

    Whether you are thick or fat has a lot to do with with body fat percentage or if you have enough muscle mass to carry a heavier weight in a balanced way. Also being fat is not healthy. Being thick in most cases if that person is working out is healthy. Being skinny does not necessary mean you are healthy but you could just have a smaller frame or good genetics. Some people have thick frames and their mass has to cover their body right and if they were to small they would look sick. They then looking thicker than smaller women and then you have women who have a feeling small frame and are petite but if they have a booty they are a small person with some thick portions and some dudes would be like she small but she thick with it. Fat is not a good thing, I dont know how people could be confused with that, the higher your body fat percentage they less healthy you are. Also you have to have a least some body fat though and I forget the percentages but your weight should not be the factor or how you look it should be about how healthy you are. I hope this does offend people who are in that “fat” category because hey it is not healthy for you to be like no matter what thick or big super star says. You noticed a lot of those stars lost weight right. It may have been more about healthy than trying to look skinny. Someone like Queen Latifah looks good thick but she work out to stay healthy and I would not want her to be be skinny.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/SunHoneyShine88/ SunHoneyShine88

    Thick and Thin are different. What I am? I’m thick. I have a big hip and boobs. My butt is normal nothing apple or paper flat. I’m kind like medium. Thick and Fat still beautiful if you know how to dress it up or proud the way you are. Me? I’m happy with who I am. I like myself. Mo Nique is awfully beautiful! She knows how to dress so much sexy. She is very positive. I look up at her because she is very confident and don’t give a f**k about what people say about her. I do same thing! Honestly, I don’t even care what people say about me. I would say, “Who Cares? Jealously! You don’t have one of those! You don’t have no curves! Skinny looks like a pencil. I’m gonna buy you and write on the paper, skinny! Do you have a problem with that?”

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/aVaNee/ aVaNee

    Some of these women don’t even belong on the list. Serena Williams? Kimora Lee Simmons? and Mo’Nique doesn’t even look like that anymore. Sherri Shepherd is just TOP heavy. But going through the list I did realize that I didn’t want to call any of them fat even though some of them are conventionally overweight. I’m a big girl and it’s not to say I dislike when I am called ‘thick’ but I honestly believe some people just use that word to be nice. If you like fat girls, you like fat girls. No one likes to be called fat. I will say it about myself but don’t like when other people say it to me. I think they’re being more truthful but it still doesn’t sound good…

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/show2night/ show2night

    Thick and Fat ain’t the same, plain and simple BBW women aint’ thick they FAT.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/phenomeNELL/ phenomeNELL

    i’m a big girl, so guess u can call me fat right, whatever! but i’ve always thought of a thick girl as a small framed girl who had some T&A working for them…that’s thick…I don’t mind my fat ass though, men who like a big girl though will call me thick, cuz i guess i’m not sloppy and have shape instead of looking like humpty dumpty. who cares….

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/phenomeNELL/ phenomeNELL

    This was an interesting post and now that I have read more comments I have something else to say…you know ppl had problems with what 100th monkey said about being fat, i think he’s absolutely right. I think that fat is unhealthy and that there is a problem in the black community with it. I am fat and i love myself as a person, and don’t necessarily love my body. However, that’s something that I personally have to work on and get together. The problem in my opinion is that society has made it so hard for people who are fat to just be accepted as another human being in the world. Its like if you are fat you are offending someone else just by existing. I don’t think anyone of small stature realizes what it does to someone of a large stature to call them names or put them down for their size, i used to pick up an extra burger lol…but seriously society needs to accept all sizes and promote healthy living…Fat or skinny we are people. Fat has become the accepted prejudice. When it comes to the opposite sex, my size will ultimately be the determination of whether I’m even spoken to, i think its sad…I now have met a man who is wonderful and accepts my size, yet still wants me to be healthy. It has taken a long time to find someone who accepts me for me, is not embarrassed by me and is willing to show me love and support me with my weight issues. I think its much easier for a smaller girl, it also puts me in a weird situation with the man i’m with. I will lose weight and my world will be opened to many other men who didn’t even look at me, same me, but different size. That’s sad too. So at the end of the day I wish size did not matter, but that’s going to have to be a change in each individual person to open their hearts to others no matter what is on the outside. I would be interested in the answer to the question does FAT mean UGLY?

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/PlotThickens/ PlotThickens

    I agree with you phenom. The entire country is overweight and we all know this but you see overweight white chicks in the gym getting it on trying to loose that fat and you don’t see many of us black chicks in there. The gym I belong to, there’s only six other black women who I see and they’re not even overweight. I’m like, where’s all the fat black chicks? Are we that much in denial that we won’t even go to the damn gym? I agree that society has done a mind job on us but damn, when are we gonna get it together? Ya’ll ladies know you’re fat and changing the word doesn’t change the definition, fat to thick or whatever term you want to use. Unhealthy is unhealthy, a big floppy a$$ s a big floppy a$$. Phenom is right, does fat mean ugly, that’s the question the author should have asked. And to 100th Monkey, I would apologize to NO one in here. It’s a free damn country and the only reason they got mad is because you held a mirror up to their face and they didn’t like what they saw. It really wasn’t about how much you wrote, it was really about “what” you wrote. Keep writing sweety. By the way, why does BP censor “S-S?” There are other words that has double S in it, like “as-sets, as-sociation, as-sistant, as-sembly, as-sume,” LOL. Stupid!

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/chinnagirl1971/ chinnagirl1971

    Alot of times people have the wrong perception about thick and fat…… they are two seperate things…..100 monkeys write what you feel….. But back on the subject thick and fat are seen differently to each it’s own, I am considered a PHAT girl, not be cause my belly is bigger than my ass which its not….. but because my weight says so…..What I want to talk about are all the skinny women that call thick or plus sized women Fat and our shapes are better than theirs, I have seen a lot of so called skinny women walking around with muffin tops and their backs out and have more waves on their backs than the ocean, better yet the ones that show everyone their stretch marks with short or see thru clothing , are the first to yell fat…… But don’t hate on me cause I can wear a short skirt and I dont have cellulete but you do…..All I can say is Look in the mirror before you hollar fat …..

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/naughtia74/ naughtia74

    im a full figured woman who’s trying to show other plus size women that we too can be sexy in our own way i agree with one of the other bloggers who said does fat means ugly? as a plus size chicks i get alot of compliments from men and women telling me how beautiful i am and is sincere about it ladies look my size never stopped me from getting anything or anybody i want and please dont let it stop u im very open with myself if you dont believe me check out my profile and u will see i never gave a damn what anyone had to say about me because my personality speaks for itself im a firm believer in beauty is skin deep and also get to know the person inside not the out oh and how about this one don’t judge a book by it’s cover yeah so we need to look deep inside a person before we turn them away regardless the size race etc…….to me alot of guys get steered the wrong way by a big butt and a smile everything that look good fellas aint good and all those chicks yall go after because weezy plies gucci mane told yall these the chicks yall need on ya arm no what yall need is a true woman not silicone chicks im not a hater of skinny or thick chicks because im bisexual i love them all it’s just this we are here big girls hate or love we aint going nowhere also being healthy is good for not only u for the ones u love as well duces……….

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/phavored/ phavored

    Y’all Craazy. These are some of the most beautiful empress queens ever!!. This article is 100 percent quilty of adding to the insane madness of judging and disecting beauty. Very damaging to young underdeveloped self images. Shame on yall.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/2gravy4ya/ 2gravy4ya

    ALL TO ME THE SAME

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/HoneyLuvaMan01/ HoneyLuvaMan01

    Take it this way 1 lb of fat takes up more space than a pound of muscle because of its mass. So when checking for thickness and fat consider that. Not trying to diss Monique but I bet that Serena weighs more than her but looking at the two you would assume that she would way more because of what she has more fat on her frame. So Serena Williams is fantasy allstar thick and Monique although she is beautiful is on the other side.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/Ericka_82/ Ericka_82

    ALL I GOTTA SAY IS WTF WAS STAR JONES THINKIN? SHE ALREADY LOOKS LIKE A TURTLE WITOUT THE SHELL AFTER SHE HAD THAT SURGERY! LMAO LOOK AT THAT PANCAKE A55!

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/jazzwatch/ jazzwatch

    13 and 15 are neither thick or fat (they’re PHAT; Deelishis got a phat ass);1,3,7,9,10,11, 12, are phat,too;14 is yuck(bothched liposuction and she is gaining back the FAT), 15 and 16,are fine; 17 is thick and is fine; 19 lost a lot of weight, so she is phat, too; so did 20, but woww on those boobs: 21 is phat, 27 is just muscular(and phat ass, too). Oprah is just fat and the rest are buttafaces….

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/jazzwatch/ jazzwatch

    Everybody will gain weight sooner or later, but thick and fat are soooo different……I like a lady with some meat on her bones, but if her body parts is soo big, or she wears tight clothes to make her look hot than it’s not….i don’t mind her snacking on hot dogs and haggen das, but not every day!!!!

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/LastStarNtheSky/ LastStarNtheSky

    ok seriously, unless you’re talking “white girl standards,” only 7 or 8 of those women are actually fat and at least 3 of them aren’t even voluptuous enough to be considered thick.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/Da_J_Rok/ Da_J_Rok

    Actually Mo’Nique is the only “FAT GIRL”… Jill is chubby, she so beautiful inside and out, that it can be easily overlooked, now there are a few “BAD BUILT” females, but most of them are proportionate, the most effective way to determine a womans thickness is breast, hips and thighs… u know measurments… Serena in the photos above is the epitome, on that note…

    And I wanna give a special shout out to Da_Epitome_Of_Thick

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/italianmami37/ italianmami37

    haha, i’m white & even I don’t consider half of those women thick, some on the list I would consider fat but idk where they came up with some of the chics on that list. ashanti is thick, trina is thick, tyra is thick… i wouldn’t consider j-lo thick, nor would i consider beyonce thick. there is a difference between thick/fat. it’s just hard to explain the difference.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/chickitie34/ chickitie34

    Look, if you have a big stomach, flabby arms, love handles, double chin from weight gain, and sellulite on the thighs…you’re fat..no matter what’s your race. Beyonce, J.Lo, Trina are considered as “thick”.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/C4lilbro/ C4lilbro

    check it if you do not have a booty no matter what your shape is your not thick. the word thick all comes based off what you got in the back and thighs you dont have to have a big breast to be thick. Thick compliments bottom heavy woman

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/SweetestFatale/ SweetestFatale

    I think the difference is the build that the extra meat is laying over. If you look similar to the Michelin man, you’re fat, not a bad thing, but I think thats a good way to put it. If you just wear a larger size because you have meat on your bones but it doesnt really jiggle (unless its T&A (this includes thighs)) then you’re thick. Like think the difference between Chaka Kahn and Mo’Nique…both heavier, but Chaka is a svelt heavy and Mo is more mushy with it. A lot of times thick sista who falls off her diet becomes fat and a fat sista who picks up a couple workouts a week goes thick (I think the distinction lies in a difference of about 20/30 pounds up or down: if you lose 30 and youre still jiggly, you were and are still fat, if you gain 30 and youre still skinty, you might be thick but you were skinty to begin with). And Im a woman who has ridden both sides of this issue, so no need to get defensive to my sister BBWs.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/SweetestFatale/ SweetestFatale

    Oh and Tsunami, big ups Lady. You are so right. I dont get offended when someone calls me fat because I know how to deal with reality, but either way it doesnt matter, if like you said the individual knows SHE’S beautiful. And some of yall jumping to health concerns and societal matters blew this topic way out of proportion.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/Nique_309/ Nique_309

    oh boy oh boy…..u kno if u fat…yu kno if yu thick…live wit it and leave it alone if yu aint neither! sum of us thick grls get so tired of hearin wut the world thinks of us…hell men love us!

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/ultramagnetic74/ ultramagnetic74

    thick = coke bottle

    fat= 2-liter bottle

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/msveevee1/ msveevee1

    Well everybody has opinions…I believe that thick women are more like those Leonardo Devinci pictures from back in the day. Those Roman women were considered to be desired by every man back then. There are still those shapes and sizes today in this society. I feel that if a woman is proportionate in her size (breast, hips, thighs and ass), then she’s thick. If she has parts bigger than her frame and way too jiggly, then she’s fat. Being that fat is soft, mushy and jiggly, if it’s on the body (depending what part of the body such as the stomach), then she might be considered fat. Either way it goes, the reality is that everybody is NOT going to be the same size. So the person must love whatever size they are even if nobody else does and make the proper changes that needs to make them feel the self-love they need. But being that we live in a world so superficially vane as this, ppl’s perception of beauty and self-love is distortingly disillusioned.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/APRILKG428/ APRILKG428

    thick is a girl who is pretty much toned and just has some junk in the trunk, fat is me….lol a girl who is not toned, cushiony, more to love :)

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/APRILKG428/ APRILKG428

    the only girl that i really consider “fat” in any of those pictures is monique, but she is fat and beautiful….see the real question is, why is fat automatically linked up with ugly, and skinny or thick automatically linked up with pretty? you can be fat and beautiful, you can be fat and ugly or you can be thick or skinny and beautiful, or thick or skinny and ugly

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/StarrSantiago/ StarrSantiago

    Agreed Syliifeather….out of all the comments I read, 100th Monkey (don’t like that Username though,LOL) is the only most that resonates with me. And you know why that is? Because it makes freakin’ sense, ladies!!!

    Us Black women need to stop addressing our unhealthy lifestyles, lackluster appearances, and denial with idiotic rebuttals like “the car is red”. Maybe we would have a more positive mainstream reputation if “we” worked on our attitudes and appearances more.

    Just my 2 cents

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/blksouthern_belle/ blksouthern_belle

    dam@100th moneky.. writing novels n shyt

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/blksouthern_belle/ blksouthern_belle

    @Ericka LMAO @turtle without its shell!! Star IS a hot mess 4real, she shouldve just lost it the reg way

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/Da_J_Rok/ Da_J_Rok

    How u gone tell me that… Down South we speciallize in this category, and I say if they dont fill all stats (breast included) u aint thick… Buffie booty wit a training bra???? When they start doin that?

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/kalimahogany706/ kalimahogany706

    I think to even be considered thick you have to be at least a size 10 and up. Most all of these women are small in size and height. Real life women have hips, arms,legs and thighs and of course a booty. They all look thick when the cameras put 10 lbs on them. Showing pics of real people would be the best way to judge. because if thick is as size 2, I must be the Statue of Liberty.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/envincible/ envincible

    Thick is comprised of the body aesthetically and physically and mentally. If your thick you can go up a flight of stairs and get and down, in and our of chairs easily without having a heart attack, asthma attack, cough up a lung, get tired, pull any muscles, have any back problems or sweat and feel confident about doing it. If your fat you probably have one of those ‘side effects’ from going up stairs or getting up and down and lack the confidence and mental stability of being able to complete they normal everyday tasks without any problem

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/Sweet_Lilac/ Sweet_Lilac

    Thick or fat is in the eyes of the beholder.

    For one just because a woman has Thick thighs or big booty they are thick, NO they are ethnic LOL. Naturally black and latino women will have a small waste and thick legs, breasts and booty for the most part. But YES I believe THICK and PHAT are one in the same BEAUTIFUL!!!!

    SO F**K YALL HATERS AND HUNGRY LIL CHICKS WITH LOW SELF ESTEEM.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/LaDawnThEGreaT1/ LaDawnThEGreaT1

    ok 100th monkey.. u took the words out of my mouth,. i am a little over what any doctor would say i should weigh.. and of course its my fault.. but u do have a point, women that get on here and make excuses for being more than overweight, but unhealthy.. and never apologize for what u say, unlike most people on here.. u stated what could be facts without slandering another.. if u feel like this topic was offensive.. click the red “x” box in the right upper hand corner.. but i feel that what u said is validated.. thick, overweight, and fat could be the same thing depending on who is looking at it.. but more important than weight, is how healthy u are ( i am raising my niece, she’s a size 2, and everything and anything is wrong with her.. she always complaining of pain or something and i’m sure its because she’s fuccin lazy).. some people are not meant to be a size 3/4, but being healthy means a lot more.. and only medical care and exercise and determine that… peace excuse my typos this evenin .. i been drinkin..!! lol :)

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/_DRINKACIDandDIE_/ _DRINKACIDandDIE_

    FAT WOMEN DO NOT WANT TO ACCEPT THE FACT THAT THEY ARE IN FACT FAT. THICK AND FAT ARE NOT THE SAME! I’M SORRY, BUT NO MATTER HOW MUCH YOU CALL YOURSELF THICK, THE FACT WILL REMAIN THAT YOU ARE BIGGER THAN THICK ( FAT ). I THINK IT’S PATHETIC WHEN WOMEN DO NOT ACCEPT THE FACT THAT THEY ARE BIG AND TRY TO CALL THEMSELVES THICK…THAT TO ME, IS A FORM OF SELF HATRED. IF YOU’RE FAT AND YOU CAN’T ACCEPT IT THEN DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT INSTEAD OF LYING TO YOURSELF, WALKING AROUND CALLING YOURSELF THICK, WHEN YOU KNOW, AND EVERYONE ELSE KNOWS YOU’RE NOT! THICK IS WHEN YOU HAVE A SMALL WAISTLINE, THICK THIGHS, NICE SIZED CHEST ( OR EVEN BIG CHEST ) AND A FAT A**, AND FAT IS THE DOUBLE CHINS, THE HONEY HAM ARMS, THE ASS AND STOMACH ARE THE SAME SIZE. THERE IS CLEARLY A DIFFERENCE, AND NO I’M NOT CLOWNING, I LOVE WOMEN OF ALL SIZES, BUT I CANNOT RESPECT A WOMAN WHO LIES TO HERSELF JUST TO BE ACCEPTED INTO SOCIETY…HALF OF YOU BIG WOMEN CLAIM TO BE CONFIDENT AND “DIVAS” YET YOU LIE TO YOURSELF AND SAY “I’M THICK” WHEN CLEARLY YOU’VE SURPASSED THE TERM “THICK”. LOVE YOURSELF, STOP LYING TO YOURSELF.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/-bxkiddo-/ -bxkiddo-

    I’m THICK to some
    Fat to some
    happy with me! so forget what the rest have to say.
    when they contribute to my well being then i’ll consider their position on MY WEIGHT

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/masculine31/ masculine31

    Thick n Fat go hand n hand *UNHEALTHY* get in da gym and change ur diet! Be healthy, we are dying from CANCER, HEART DISEASE, and STROKE! If ur still under 50, its not too late! HIT DAT GYM UP!

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/candy_apple_blk/ candy_apple_blk

    thick…fat whatever if you carry yourself like a lady and you look nice so be it. but i have noteced that skinny is outnumbered these days

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/jazzwatch/ jazzwatch

    Ultramagnetic.like that joke,but I prefer Pepsi LOL.
    Ericka, I’d noticed when she shedded that weight, she also shedded that ass; sje didn’t have one i the first place….
    Skinny ladies are not always more attractive than fat girls; I’d seen some that look like Olive Oyle or worse; thin might be in, but bones are out!!!!

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/Da_J_Rok/ Da_J_Rok

    My goodness gracious… @ DrinkAcidandDie… I almost believe its worth it, what type of flava is the acid…??? I like red, yep red is my favorite flava

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/TheRealRed1/ TheRealRed1

    Thick or Fat, or whatever it is all in the eye of the beholder. Everyone has their own definition of which is which. No they are not the same, when you thick it means you got a fat a** and thick legs, when you fat, we got the rest of that sh**to go with it :). I tripped when I saw Beyonce, Trina, and Alicia Key’s on there though, come on now. If there is a bit** out there saying any of those three are fat, they are some haten a** hookers, mad cause they don’t got it like that. Lord know’s I wish I did.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/Sexiireddoo9/ Sexiireddoo9

    LOOK WE BLACK SO OUR BODIES WILL BE BIGGER THAN A WHITE PERSONS WHO CARES THIS IS JUST LIKE THAT LIGHT SKINNED VS DARK SKINNED S**T…………….STUPID!!!!!!

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/BlackMiss62/ BlackMiss62

    OMG!! The tears of laughter @the truth!!

    ultramagnetic74 writes simply and truthfully:
    thick = coke bottle (Lisa Raye)
    Fat= 2 Liter Bottle (Mo’Nique)

    Daaaayaaammm! So simply and visually put! Beautiful visualization!

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/M0M0_S0_PURDI/ M0M0_S0_PURDI

    even when i work out and eat better…i still be fat so….. lol for everyone who hates fat people now what? AND ADDITIONALLY… 85% of the people I always hear talking about fat people either A. dont even be healthy themselves or B. are skinny by default. If you dont work out regularly and you choose to eat Mcdonalds every other day but it doesnt show up on you… how you gonna judge me when I dont even do that stuff?! smh

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/orinreborn2/ orinreborn2

    Thick … is when a woman who is up to like a size 8-16, with a nice curvy shape, where the mid section is smaller than the hips and thighs. Some ladies are just very TOP heavy, but they are not fat , just giant boobed. The linebacker big shoulders and little leg type chicks at a size 14 … just look sloppy and might be FAT … since they might have so much belly.

    BBW (Big Beautiful Woman) … is size 16 and up with curves, and a pretty face, a generally attractive woman of a bigger size.

    … not to be confused with BMW, body made wrong, when the bigger woman is shaped like a FAT MAN … UGGGGG :-( giant belly, tiny legs, FLAT ASS, might have tiny titties too and a big ole face :-/ who likes that ? (maybe desperate dudes maybe that call themselves BBW lovers when they really can’t get a chick and take what they can get) ???

    BBW’s are the DYMES of the FAT chicks …. FAT is not a bad word, a FAT chick can be a BBW, but not all FAT CHICKS ARE BBW’s !!! FAT is just a description of size, that is all .

    attractive thick girls are DYMES … but not all DYMES are thick girls.

    PERSONALLY … I WANT TO MARRY A BBW … THATS WHAT I LOVE … THATS WHAT TURNS ME ON LIKE NO OTHER !!!

    Under a size 10 .. is just not for me :-/
    under a size 16, is acceptable
    over a size 18 with a big ass and a pretty face … good start on being wifey material lol

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/Red_Clay_Chronicles/ Red_Clay_Chronicles

    It’s been said here quite often already, beauty’s in the eye of the beholder, yada yada yada. That’s true & all….but a lot of fat gals, especially here in TX, have issues with misidentification. They’re above a size 14, not because the @ss is that fat…but because they’re shaped like a Coke can instead of a Coke bottle….yet they still refer to themselves as thick. Personally, I’m a big guy…slim on no day…and I love a thick gal. My definition of this is @ss, thighs, hips, tits….not a cushiony @ss midsection, love handles, or those flabby grandma arms.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/datthickygurl/ datthickygurl

    there is a difrrent , a thick women is when she has curves, no stomach hanging, big boobs and a big ass. and a little waist , and a fat woman is just fat all over, no shape , no curves, stomach hanging out etc…… ya get the point !!!! s**ttttttt im a thick AS WOMAN , IM SOOO PROUD OF MY BODY ,AND THE WAY I LOOK PERIOD. AND EVERY WOMAN SHOULD~!!!!

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/Euqinimod21/ Euqinimod21

    All those chicks, but only a few, were skinny with curves, beyonce, mariah, all of dem are skinny chicks with curves…Monique, Queen latifah, and few others are thick with curves. A fat person is a person whose shape is not proportioned while a thick person shape is proportioned…y does it matter anyway a euro centric person would consider thick as fat anyways, Ive read the comments and the bull. Hell they even call Beyonce fat and Beyonce is not fat, anywho the majority of Black women are beautifully shaped, and built no matter the size!

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/Sheltwon3/ Sheltwon3

    Why is it hard for people to get it despite how you dress and try to cover stuff up if your body fat percentage is too high than even if the problems are not noticeable now. Even if you still look good to some people and someone still finds you attractive, this is something you should address. Also my thing is this considering everybody talks about everyone and has their perception whether right or wrong about someone. Fat people talk about skinny people so my thing is, so say that someone should not be mean to you in a world where people are mean to other people for reason even yourself is kind of weak. Also some woman on here mentioned is fat ugly. Not necessarily but the thing is someone that is fat that is not try to better themselves comes across as lazy. Not many people like lazy people. This also includes skinny women with stomachs not on point or flab in areas that stick out. My thing is if you arent working out and it is noticeable that you have areas to work on, that is not a turn on. People may see you as a short term proposition but most people dont respect lazy people. This sound harsh but would you rather have your feeling hurt or your body just shut down on you. I dont look like I am in bad shape but I am on my workout and try to watch what I eat because I want to be healthy. That person that compared Serena’s weight to Moniques, I kind of laughed a lil at that because weight is not the key thing, it is body fat percentage. Someone can weight more and be more healthy. that is not a bad thing. Serena Williams should be able to show that but for people with jelly rolls that are in denial, keep on your game. This goes for the men too but really, women are more harsh in how they will let a guy know if he is either too fat or too skinny so a lot more dudes is in the gym. Men happen to have to hold our tongue more because it is considered taboo to let women know that they are indeed fat and not big boned like they would lead you to believe. It would be different if you saw these women working out but you don’t. For the ones that are working out please stay strong and stick with it and do it for you health and yourself and not what people will say but let’s be real we all like to be attractive to other people.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/Red_Clay_Chronicles/ Red_Clay_Chronicles

    Equinimod….So anyone who says that a woman has transitioned from being thick to fat is Eurocentric?? Is this strictly because they disagree with your point of view, or what? Everyone has their own opinion on what fat/thick is….at the same time, by your own definition, how can you call Monique a thick gal w/ curves…when she’s in no way proportionate or curvy?

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/Sheltwon3/ Sheltwon3

    Let me add this there is a misconception about the weight thing and because of black people’s body density we could fail some weight tests but you need to know your body fat percentage, that is more key. That is more of a indicator than your weight. Also muscle weight more than fat but muscle helps burn fat so if you are working out and your weight goes up at first or either you cant squeeze into some jeans, don’t trip, early this could possibly happen because like I said muscles weights more. Muscle also does not give like fat will but in a little time that muscle will burn some of that fat and you will notice or other people will see that you are slimmer and you should have more a shape to your frame. This is mainly to the women because I dont really watch dudes like that to know that about them and as far as myself I can see that I am smaller but sometimes my weight may not change as much as my size does early on so I figure that happens to everyone at some point because it happen to a homegurl of mine and I had to tell her that it was normal, your weight will sometimes go up for a little as you gain muscle especially if you never really worked out and just started. People you should focus on your body fat and just having a some sort of active activity to get your health up. This whole fat versus thick should not be an issues because if you are healthy can’t no one tell you nothing. Also to skinny people, not all of yall are healthy. Bodies should have some sort of shape and not look so frail so if you are small and that is the case you may need to eat more or get your lift on. Same for dudes but I do know some of yall like my early self have fast metabolisms but you can at least be toned with it.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/matashia/ matashia

    well let me start off by saying there always gonna be some one out there saying she,s fat or u should lose weight. me myself i,m a size 14 and i,m indeed thick azz hell i have a big big apple round bottom i have a little gut but can be easily lost but i,m not fat by far they will say i,m plus size oh well love the person for who they r cause i love me

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/1pastor4u/ 1pastor4u

    A’rite, here’s the thing. To me one is thick vs fat when their bone structure supports their size, so you may be heavy but you just wouldn’t look right any other way. For example a Jill Scott, Queen Latifah, or Jennifer Hudson. When you are a big girl but you tight, meaning, if I smack it and it isn’t like jello, feel me, that’s okay, that works. When you have wings that shake when you wave or dance “Hit the gym” you’re fat. Thick is Alicia Key’s who’s just built like that, or Beyonce. I’m sure they both have some dimples (lol) but that’s how’s they are shaped. Serena Williams is goddess thick fine, she is thick, but it’s like all muscle except them blessed breast. I personally wouldn’t care one way or another, now. I honestly used to be afraid of big/thick girls, until my wife after three kids became a bigger woman. Honestly it wasn’t ever them it was me, my own insecurities, wasn’t sure if I could keep up (lol). My wife has lost a lot of weight as of late, and I love that too, for her health and own conscience. Ladies do you, because sexiness is not in how big or lil you are, it’s in how you think of yourself. For you big girls out there, just now, dudes not sure of themselves that’s why they pass you by, cause if they new how great making love is to ya, they would line up around the state for that date, you dig.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/rico-esteban/ rico-esteban

    Real talk:
    a heavy weight man in boxing or mma(mixed martial arts)IS 200LBS & up.

    Lets define male: more body hair, more body weight, denser bone structure, more testosterone, deep voice, testicles, p***s, more lean muscle mass.

    Female: less testosterone. less muscle mass, more body fat, less body hair, higher voices, less weight in stature. ovaries, uterus, more progesterone.

    America is the most over weight country in the world.
    Our poor population lives better than 80% of the world.

    We have a poor diet of bad carbohydrates and proteins due to the food corporation that manufacture low nutrition addictive, cheap, addictive foods. Sugar, salt, starches and fats.

    We are a sedentary society but we know more about health and nutrition and free access to this information than we ever had before.

    Clothes designers have added inches to clothing so if you wore a size 12 20yrs ago,. that size now would be a 10, in order to fool you and buy there product.

    We want to be comfortable: shop, eat, sleep and drive easily and park to our destination.

    It’s easy to sit on the couch and watch TV, eat, play video games, get on the computer date and surf the world wide web. This is effortless.

    Working out, changing your lifestyle habits: education yourself on nutrition and exercise is effort full.

    Minorities have a higher rate of obesity in America. This is due to economics, education, environment and body shape indifference apathy.

    Child obesity is the highest in this country.

    Child diabetes is the highest in this country.

    We teach our children our good and bad habits weather we are trying to or not.

    We eat tend to eat not for hunger but for comfort, single women with no man to hold them at night, comfort foods give u that warm and fuzzy feeling in your stomach.

    When u are in a long term relationship especially when u have children you tend to let your self go over time, I’m a mom or a dad that doesn’t matter anymore everything is about the children and providing for them.

    We get complacent in long term relationships. Our ultimate goal is to be comfortable.

    America is the best country in the world for women. American women have more liberties than most women in the world. Fat, happy and lazy.

    Ask a foreign woman how it is in her country?

    We say that looks don’t matter, I say this an ideal, as a matter of fat looks matter more than we want to admit, honestly ladies your telling you wouldn’t want to have your body at 25? We say it matters what’s on the in side, but how do u get attracted to a person in the first place? Something they have or something they do. There are a few exception… a coworker that u work with 40 hrs per week or a friend of family or friends, this allows u to see the person from another angle. But the majority is based on what u have and what u do.

    Men like a women with curves but a man’s definition of what curves are is 180 degrees from what a women definition of curves.

    Fact of the matter is we all need to tighten up our waist lines for health and psychological reasons.

    Science has shown that the thinner you are and the flatter you keep your belly, you will have less health problems and live longer.

    In closing, I read this from an 80 yr old Cardiologist, “he said that a 14th century historian who had seen most of the world at that time noticed that the tribes that had to work harder for food and water had less disease and were energetic the tribes that had easy water and food sources where, lazy and fat and more sickness.

    Educate yourself about nutrition and exercise, Men’s & Women’s Health Magazine is a great place to start subscribe and read and take baby steps, french fries, soda, deep fried foods.

    Thick attactive women are rare most are just fat… real talk.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/rico-esteban/ rico-esteban

    Thick is a perspective word when used used to describe a woman body. Everyone is going tho see it differently: Here are some Websters definitions:
    1.
    a. Relatively great in extent from one surface to the opposite, usually in the smallest solid dimension; not thin: a thick board.
    b. Measuring a specified number of units in this dimension: two inches thick.
    2. Heavy in form, build, or stature; thickset: a thick neck.
    3. Having component parts in a close, crowded state or arrangement; dense: a thick forest.
    4. Having or suggesting a heavy or viscous consistency: thick tomato sauce.
    5. Having a great number; abounding: a room thick with flies.
    6. Impenetrable by the eyes: a thick fog.
    7.
    a. Not easy to hear or understand; indistinctly articulated: the thick speech of a drunkard.
    b. Producing indistinctly articulated sounds: the thick tongues of barbarians.
    8. Strongly apparent; conspicuous: a thick brogue.
    9. Informal Lacking mental agility; stupid.
    10. Informal Very friendly; intimate: thick friends.
    11. Informal Going beyond what is tolerable; excessive.

    FAT:
    1.
    a. The ester of glycerol and one, two, or three fatty acids.
    b. Any of various soft, solid, or semisolid organic compounds constituting the esters of glycerol and fatty acids and their associated organic groups.
    c. A mixture of such compounds occurring widely in organic tissue, especially in the adipose tissue of animals and in the seeds, nuts, and fruits of plants.
    d. Animal tissue containing such substances.
    e. A solidified animal or vegetable oil.
    2. Obesity; corpulence.
    3. The best or richest part: living off the fat of the land.
    4. Unnecessary excess: “would drain the appropriation’s fat without cutting into education’s muscle” (New York Times).

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/evolution_824/ evolution_824

    You should NOT have to explain or recite the definition of thick vs fat to black people…if Bob and Mary’s pancake a$$e$ don’t know that’s one thing…but come on, we all know full damn well that there is a difference.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/xXHunny-BunnyXx/ xXHunny-BunnyXx

    Simple equation

    Thick is 1 Tummy

    Fat is 2!!

    duh.. lol

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/itzmissbrown/ itzmissbrown

    To me it’s simple thick is a little more extra fat but your still healthy and able, it looks good on you it is not stopping you from doing you. Fat is when it becomes harder to get around, you need two seats on a plane or movie theater, or when it becomes a health issue, or your morbidly obese…..not cute….your nearing death!

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/whozdatladyE/ whozdatladyE

    THICK PEOPLE ARE MOSTLY PEOPLE WHO ARE ACTIVE, HEALTHY AND MORE MUSCULAR AND ACTUALLY LOOK GOOD AND KNOW HOW TO WORK IT. FAT PEOPLE LET GO AND LET IT ALL HANG OUT. EVEN WHEN THICK PEOPLE EVOLVE INTO FAT PEOPLE AFTER THEY MATURE, HAVE BABIES, BECOME LESS ACTIVE, HAVE IT MADE, AND FAT PEOPLE AIN’T GOT NOTHING, NEVER HAD NOTHING AND NEVER WILL HAVE NOTHING BECAUSE NO MATTER WHAT THEY GET OR HAVE THEIR MIND WILL ALWAYS BE FOCUSSED ON TRYING TO PLEASE THE PEOLE WHO CONSTANTLY CALL THEM FAT. THICK PEOPLE ARE USUALLY ONE HOLIDAY DINNER AWAY FROM BECOMING CONSIDERED TO BE FAT PEOPLE BUT THEY CAN GO TO THE GYM AND PERSONAL TRAINERS AND SO FORTH AND GET RIGHT BACK DOWN TO THEIR THICKNESS. NOW I MYSELF WAS ALWAYS ONE OF THOSE THICK PEOPLE AND I WAS CONSIDERED TO BE VERY NICE LOOKING WITH MY THICKNESS. HOWEVER AFTER I HAD MY BABY AT 25 I GAINED 52 POUNDS. SO OF COURSE MY GOAL EVER SINCE HAS BEEN TO RERETAIN MY THICKNESS. SO I LOST 32 POUNDS, WAS NOT SATISFIED AND TRIED TO LOSE THE OTHER 20 POUNDS, GAINED 50 POUNDS LOST 67 POUNDS WASN’T SATISFIED TRIED TO LOSE THAT OTHER 25 POUNDS AND GAINED 140 POUNDS AND A THYROID PROBLEM. SO NOW THICK OR FAT WHATEVER!!! I REFUSE TO TRY TO LOSE THIS 160 POUNDS TRYING TO RECAPTURE MY THICKNESS ONLY TO GAIN 280 POUNDS AT THE RATE I AM GOING AND AM JUST TRYING TO LIVE A HEALTHY ACTIVE LIFE. WHEN WE WERE YOUNGER MY COUSIN WANTED TO WEIGH 95 POUNDS TO WATCH OUT FOR MIDDLE AGE SPREAD AND NOW SH HAS A THYROID PROBLEM AND WEIGHT PROBLEM SO GO FIGURE IT. SHE’S THICK NOW NOT FAT(LOL)

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/hislove8/ hislove8

    THICK!

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/hislove8/ hislove8

    THICK IS BASED ON BONE DENSITY! FAT IS PLAIN OVERWEIGHT OVER SIZED IN MOST OR ALL SEEN OR UNSEEN AREAS OF THAT, PARTICULAR PERSONS BODY! THICK IS NOT A HEALTH ISSUE, FAT ON THE OTHER HAND MOST OF THE TIME IS. IT’S ALSO WHEN IT’S HARD FOR THAT PERSON TO CARRY THEIR OWN WEIGHT. MOST OF THE WOMEN DISPLAYED ON THIS PAGE WAS THICK OR VERY BIG BONED! BUT, IF THERE’S ANY QUESTION IN A PERSONS MIND WHETHER THEY’RE THICK OR FAT GO CONSULT YOUR PHYSICIAN AND I’M SURE HE OR SHE, WILL, GIVE YOU THE WHOLE LOW DOWN ON WHAT’S TRULY GOING ON WITH YOUR BODY.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/CMDGoddess/ CMDGoddess

    Wow @ star jones pic wtf

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/bgktynatx/ bgktynatx

    All of this is stupid. No one is purrfect, and he who throws a stone might wanna take a look at the man/woman in the mirror! Everyone in this world has something wrong with em, and it might not be visable, but they know its true!!! ;) There are a lot of ppl that aren’t lookers, but they’re still entertaining the world we live in right? If ppl don’t like the sight of anothter then they can close their eyes and walk on by, but don’t look for that thick/fat person to help u if u fall, or walk into that pole. NObody was placed on this earth without error.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/perry161492/ perry161492

    thick/fat it what inside that matter

  • http://hellobeautiful.com/your-world/plus-size-women-are-too-whiny/ Plus-Size Women Are Too Whiny! | Hello Beautiful

    [...] THICK VS. FAT: Aren’t They The Same??? [...]

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/nyluvly81204/ nyluvly81204

    This article is interesting. However, Before this was even written i am always called thick and im very proud of being thick. My momma is a size 6 in the waist and she is thick in the hips and butt something like Kim K. All the women on my dads side have chests and hips and a butt. I wasnt made to be thin and even if i do lose weight i never wanna be small. I say work with what u got. People always compliment me on my shape because I KNOW HOW TO DRESS IT most of the time! Thats the most important thing. People who are frail thin are always quick to call me fat i just laugh at them too. On the flipside dont be 300lbs tryna wear something that dont flatter u. I know the difference between thick and fat. Thck is when your proportionate with a lil gut (and i dont mean the skinny chicks who whine their stomachs arent flat and they cry their fat either) fat is when you look like the goodyear tire man with rolls everywhere and u cant even carry yourself and your very unhealthy. Thats just my take whateva

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/lagina35/ lagina35

    If you have a gut, than that is fat. Mo-Nique is fat, Queen Latifah is fat, Jill Scott is fat, Raven is fat, but very cute. Tocarra isnt fat, but she is built funny, so it doesnt matter how much weight she loses she still is wrong looking. Alicia Keyes is thick, Beyonce is thick,Trina is thick. It is all about how you carry it and some of them that I mentioned aint carrying it to good. I am fat, people say that I am not, however I have good support sucking it in.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/bzebway86/ bzebway86

    any one who counters this and say its whats on the inside that counts is prolly fat themselves…get d fucc up off the couch and go take a walk u lazy fucc

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/BakkByPopularDemand/ BakkByPopularDemand

    Just know there is a difference……

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/Caj-1/ Caj-1

    Now I love thick women. Whether they are petit or big built.
    Because they do have 2 types of thick.

    But the way I look at it is.
    Whether you have huge hips. thighs, and a big booty.

    A little ponch or little belly, does not make you fat.
    But If you have a big ole, over-hanging belly. You ARE fat.

    Let’s be real.
    Because if we start getting into other body parts and  medical formulas, we will be here forever.

    And I know plently of women with huge butts, and hips, and breasts, that are considered to be Plus-sized.
    But best trust and believe, that they are NOT fat.

    I used to be 392 pounds a few years ago, so I know how it is to be fat.
    But I owned up to it.
    So that way, I was able to start down the road of losing it. Which I did.

    But I didn’t go around saying I was “THICK”, or “SOLID”, or “BIG BONED” or “CHUNKY”.
    I said I was FAT.
    And a lot of women need to stop poking out their butt, and sucking in their bellies, and just be real with themselves.
    Not just for looks, but for their health and well-being.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/all_timegreat1/ all_timegreat1

    precious fat monique aint fat she just bad body woman now it is difference between fat and thick dont give a damn how you dress if you got a roll then you have surpassed thick you fat if you got biscuit back you fat if more than yo ass or tits jiggle when you walk you fat

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/craig185/ craig185

    Hell no it’s not the same. What a dumb question.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/craig185/ craig185

    wrong…there are MANY thick women without a tummy. What the hell you talking about?

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/Paneiro1/ Paneiro1

    Fat is when a Thick girl get’s too comfortable being thick, instead of keeping a good or atleast reasonable diet.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/screwlove/ screwlove

    Lets be real. Who cares?

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/man_alone/ man_alone

    The definition of thick versus fat is in the eye of the beholder. My definition is certainly different from what the next man’s is. Or, the next woman’s for that matter. You can try but still it will come down to personal opinion.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/Cbunnietx5/ Cbunnietx5

    Good one…go to the doctor and if you thick …watch him still circle fat on your paper….lol ppl keep it real these are terms most commonly found in the black communities. there is not a doctor in the world  who is going to tell you you are thick or fat.. they will look at your height vs weight and  you will either be in your range, obese or morbidly obese.. that’s that. bottom line love your self despite if any one else does……now roger that!

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/nana593/ nana593

    Who gives a damn!

    If your thick, fat..whatever  LOVE YOURSELF!

    Don’t let nobody make you feel less then. 

    sidenote:  It’s funny that this topic is geared towards women only as if men aren’t capable of being “fat” or “thick”. 

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/steve797/ steve797

    this is the difference between fat n thick.
    FAT == THE WOMAN HOLDIN THE COATS N PURSES IN THE CLUB 
    THICK == NOT CRACKISH SKINNY BUT ALSO NOT LOOK LIKE U HAVENT GOTTEN UP FROM THE DINNER TABLE IN A COULE WEEKS TRINA == THICK 
    OPRAH,MONIQUE ROSIE ODONNAL == FAT

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/Raheem_nyc/ Raheem_nyc

    this is what i been saying for a long time… thick = chubby = fat

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/kmr72/ kmr72

    YUP! There are a lot of fat, greasy, stankin ass men out here. 

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/writeontime/ writeontime

    Thick is the proper balance of bone structure,fat, and muscle that combined makes you curvy and pronounce the features.Fat is too much adipose fat and cellulite which combined with poor symmetry and a big belly differs from thick.There is a difference.I also agree that no matter what your body type,be happy to be alive and who and what you are.I have dated women who could be consider overweight but they had great self esteem;likewise I have dated women who would be considered “fine-as-heaven” and they were a minefield of low self esteem and mental problems trying to keep up the beauty standard ideal.Take care of yourself,exercise,have a good relationship with God/Higher power,and do something to enrich your mind and community.Someone will notice that and love you for who you are and are aiming to be.

  • Anonymous

    lol

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/lonestarballa254/ lonestarballa254

    There is a difference but who gives a f**k…

  • Anonymous

    if you are topless and u can see ur stomach stick out past your breast either you have small breast or you are in fact fat 
    if you cant pass the stomach test the rest shouldnt even matter 

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/Nightowl358/ Nightowl358

    The word thick has been grossly redefined.  If your ass is 80 pounds overweight, you ain’t thick!

    Being a southern black boy, I like some meat on the bones, but come on, LOL.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/trice137/ trice137

    fat is out of proportion, thick is well proportioned. add me on facebook juanitha latrice holloway

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/bzebway86/ bzebway86

    is this to justify if ur on one side of the fence or the other?

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/Plus_sizeQT/ Plus_sizeQT

    The thing is…guys can be fat and still have women attracted to them. We can look beyond the exterior to see to a guys real personality and find the sweetest most caring guy in the world and fall in love. Most men will look at a girl, and if she is what they consider fat, he keeps it movin. But bring in a girl who is by their standards fit, then they will go all out to get to know this chick even if she is drama with a capital D, a gold digger, etc.

    Point is…of course men can (and some are) fat but its not as big of an issue as it is for women. (Also, women play the i look better than that chick game which leads to more pressure to be thin)

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/Anymorerealguys/ Anymorerealguys

    Girl u aint NEVER lie!! I know manyyy men who quick to be with a “SMALL”girl go all the way out for THEM knowing she a hoe or gold digger but a chick like me bcuz of my size gets looked over then men (not all) quick to say woman are gold diggers and ETC….

  • http://twitter.com/rainbowlime Barbara Cunningham

    You said it best!

  • http://twitter.com/rainbowlime Barbara Cunningham

    I never thought this was a hard question. You are fat if you are flabby. You are thick if you are bigger due to bone structure, or maybe your fat is TONED, muscles, etc.  Also, think about it! Does society really consider anyone fat unless they have a big stomach? No. If a woman has big thighs, butt, or breast….it is all good. Just don’t have a big stomach! That’s to answer the question. However, no matter what, love yourself, and if you aren’t happy with yourself because you are unhealthy, get healthy!

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/MR_CASH/ MR_CASH

     BUTT TO GUT RATIO…if your butt is bigger than your gut..then you will always be called a thick girl..

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/AJyAnt1/ AJyAnt1

    IF Your OVERWEIGHT, then call yourself fat…

    The shameful part about it is, that FAt women are saying they are thick…What a joke.   Fattness aint cute..What if Jesus was some big fat dude?  Who the hell would follow him. He would show he dont love the temple God gave him….What if MARY his mother was fat?    Joseph may not have found her attractive, then we wouldnt have Jesus.    Lets put it this way…MEN, AND WOMEN if your stomach hangs over your sides like a muffin top, then YOUR FAT. IF you have no children and have a pouchy stomach YOUR FAT..If your a man and cant see your P***s, or your Knees.YOUR FAT. If you have breast and your a man YOUR FAT, or a GAY ass. If you eat too damn much, your fat.
    Sistas…Dont let fat ass MONIQUE tell you love your fatness..Hell no get up and work that s**t off.. No man wants a fat woman.. Gotta always wash…Thighs rubbing together, arms look like Big ass Turkey legs..Sweating all the time. Makes your V****a so small it looks like a newborns.
    Brotha’s..Get off your fat asses and take a bath…Have you noticed how horrible smelling fat men can be?  Smelling like a pile of s**t!  Fat men are so nasty, greedy, and have no control. Beside its makes they p***s looks like the size of a newborns. What woman wants some fats ass man rolling ontop of her.  God didnt make the body to hold up all those pounds, thats why you have so many health problems…No one is to be fat.
    Blackpeople got being fat from WHITE AMERICA…When they KIDNAPPED us from AFRICA, they didnt get no big fat ones. We got fat from being raised by our slavemasters. He taught us to eat the wrong foods, because he is a savage, and he made us just like him. A bunch of 5 meal a day eating, drinking, smoking, LESBO, GAY, FAT, scared to death NEGROs in America. Look around in your city at these young teen-age girls..Got potbellys, and muffinn tops. Then they come out the house with tight clothes on thinking thats cute..OH hell no. The BLACKWOMAN getting fat as hell while the WHITEWOMAN in the GYM looking slim to get your man. And the Blackman done turned into a damn F****T so his woman turns to another woman or a whiteman…shame shame……

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/Realgreeneyedboy/ Realgreeneyedboy

    I think there’s a slight difference between thick and fat.  A thick person tends to be curvy or shapely. Thick women have smaller stomach mass than fat women. There is a clear difference between a thick woman and a so-called fat woman not trying to sound offensive! 

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/hprince4/ hprince4

    Thick= Chrissette Michelle, Raven Symone, Pinky, Tocara
    Fat = Queen Latifah, Jennifer Hudson (pre weight loss), Gabby Sidibe (Precious)

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/Plus_sizeQT/ Plus_sizeQT

    Dude….this article was not that serious….I know im overweight, not here to promote a accept my weight…I just want to be treated like a human being with feelings. I do not smell, and I dont sweat like crazy when Im out and about. Nor do I over eat. That is a stereotype and I don’t appreciate it. Many women have a little pouch in the front of their stomach, especially skinny women. That’s where our uterus is.  Also, how do you know being fat equals a small baby like v****a? Have you looked at a big girls v****a? Probably not, and for the record my v****a is normal sized. Have you looked at a big mans p***s? If you have…sir you might be gay. Anyway I have dated big men in the past and they are no smaller than the next average sized man. Sometimes they are even bigger. P***s and V****a size have absolutely nothing to do with being overweight. Genetics does, and why are you comparing grown people’s genetalia to that of a newborns? Do you spend time looking at newborn genetalia? I hope that means from changing your own childrens diapers (if you have kids) if not sir, that is something worse than being gay. That is pedophilia. Monique isnt fat anymore she works out and has lost weight…encouraging sistahs to do the same for our health…and btw sure some white women are working out staying thin but (if you havent noticed) a lot of black men date the fat white women that the white men do not want…and have said they do not want. Black women have always been thicker, bigger boned, we are strong. In africa we were not super skinny, and (as i have said so many times in my life) there are tribes in africa that value a plus size woman. They see it as beautiful and a sign of wealth, so much that they actually make women fatter for her wedding day. Now you…God loves us all…Big, thin, volumptuous, anorexic, gay and straight. Sure HE didnt intend for people to be gay but HE loves them all the same and if HE is going to send them to hell then let HIM do it. To sin is to be human, to love devine. I think you have some issues with yourself and perhaps others that you need to work out. Therapy sir, is what I suggest. Whether it be with an actual psychiatrist or your preacher.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/Sternie/ Sternie

    There is a difference.Thick is when you are big,but you keep it together and you make it look sexy.Fat is when you have body hanging out your shirt,over your waist line,five rolls in your belly,and it`s not sexy at all.Now,true what Nana said,love yourself,but the fact is,fat is fat and thick is thick.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/Sixfootr34/ Sixfootr34

    YOU ARE A HUMAN BEING…DON’T LET PEOPLE PUT LABELS ON WHO U ARE!!  PLAIN AND SIMPLE!!

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000709864513 Michelle Kirkwood

    Now wait a damn minute–”No man wants a fat woman”?  Well, maybe where YOU  come from,they don’t, but I highly doubt you speak for ALL men. I’ve seen plenty of men with Here in the D (Detroit) with fat,thick and not-so-small women. Also, everybody who is fat is not automatically unattractive— I have seen cute and pretty fat women who look nice in the fashionable clothes they wear–it depends, though, on how big they are. I have to admit,anybody over 350 pounds DOES weight too damn much, and that goes for BOTH man and women. About white women staying slim—the drawback to that is that they end up damn near killing themselves due to anorexia and trying to live up to this unrealistic bulls**t Hollywood standard of beauty which says that ALL women must be 120 pounds sopping wet and look like a damn stick. I mean,damn, EVERY woman in the world can not look like that, and I’m tired of the media drilling that into especially the heads of young women, who get bombarded with that s*** ALL the damn time.
     
    Like for example, there’s this white actress famous for playing on MAD MEN (never seen the show)–Christina Hendricks–the media’s been making a big deal about her because she’s not fat, but she actually has a little more meat on her bones than you usually see on the average white actress out there. Apparently the media has a hard time understanding the fact that yeah, a woman can look good and not have to be a 90-pound weakling who barely snacks on anything besides salads. Also, let’s fact, being TOO thin to the point of looking like a skeleton with skin damn near hanging off your bones (unless you’re actually physically sick) frankly, not all that attractive either on some people. You have to find a balance between the two extremes on the weight scale.
     
    That being said, one has to determine what weight they would be happy with remaining at and stick to that. If you go by what the media declares to be the current societal standards, you’re go crazy trying to conform to it, because beauty standards change nearly every decade anyway. Learning to love and accepting yourself for what you look like and who you are can be difficult as hell sometimes, but it’s worth it and you’ll have more piece of mind,that’s for damn sure!

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/Lena0123/ Lena0123

    I was going to pass this topic up, but as I was reading the comments, I decided to post. If you’re a male or female, thick, fat, big or whatever you want to call yourselves, then by all means do what makes you feel good. Why are we so quick to judge people because they carry some weight, or a lot of weight? Just because the media tells you and oh, don’t forget the magazines that we as black women/ men have to look like our white counterparts, does not mean we have to partake in this stupidity. If you love yourself, no matter what you look like, that’s all that matters, however, as  a small side note, just make sure that you are healthy, and trying to eat right, and implement a little bit of exercise. I don’t care if you are skinny, or thick, or fat, or obese, white, black, aisan, latino, whatever, we can all exercise because it’s great for the heart. The whole idea is having confidence and loving who you are. Don’t ever let anyone define you, and put you in a box with a label to tell you who you are because none of us, are perfect physically. Women, if a man cannot accept you for who you are, then you don’t need him,… same thing for a Man, if you cannot be accepted by the woman, move on, there is someone out there for everyone. Hollywood, even in 2011, still consider most of the black celebrity women there, as being fat, why? because they have the big butt, the breast, and are curvy, so they see this as being a little too” heavy for them. But, then we have J Lo and Kim K with the big butts, and all of a sudden it’s cool to have it, but how long has the black women had the big butts? from the beginning to the end of time, because this is our culture.

    One of the guys wrote something about people that sweat, and smell, if I am not mistaken, we all sweat and smell, that is the reason for showers and baths, and taking care of your hygiene, … once again, doesn’t matter what size you are. And if anyone is wondering I am 5 8 close to 5 9 and weigh 165… and what do i consider myself???? thick, fat, obese, unattractive, ?????? No!!, I consider myself a WOMAN, and I love every single curve that I have, and I am healthy. Don’t work out everyday, but at least 3 times a week because it makes not only my body feel good, but my mind also…. Remember…. love yourself and always have CONFIDENCE!!!!!!!

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/Kowala6/ Kowala6

    I’m just going to say this,in my college years alot guys usedto perpetuate the fact that they were only into small frame women but in reality when it came down to the big Black College Events Such as Feaknic, Daytona…..they always ended up approaching the the thic girls.I think women come in all shapes in sizes and everyone has a right to their preference but give me a thic chic any day.Think about it about it who would be more of a show stopper Pinky/Cherokee or Lady GA GA/or one of the those Next top models chic?Lets keep it real.Being slim is just something that has been placed in the African Americans mindset by the white man society,why not just be healthy just because your slim does not mean your healthy.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/sweetazzhoneyGA/ sweetazzhoneyGA

    I’m PHAT!

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/Goodi/ Goodi

    No thats why they are two different words

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/Anarkis-EbenFlow/ Anarkis-EbenFlow

    Fat… Thick… Whatever.

    Are you intelligent ? ? check.

    Do we get along ? ? check.

    Are we banging til we set off fire alarms ? check and check.

    IIght… What we eating tonight ?

    If the answer is Steak and Taters (cuz nigga’s LOVE them tater’s…)

    Congradulations…

    You have just been upgraded to sexy…

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/ziggidy/ ziggidy

    fat is fat. thick is thick.

    SOME nigerns i know say “man she is THICK!!” and i know that what they have said is “that broad is SLOPPY AF!!”

    ctfu. its in the eye of the beholder.  fcuk all that thick/fat/skinny shyt, be concerned with being healthy and active. for real.

    random-i used to work with a chick that had a BANGING azz body.  and these fat broads used to always tell her “girrrrllll….you need to eat more!!”  then she got all fat n shyt, and she was never the same…

    they ruined that poor female.  smmfh.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/soultry-soul/ soultry-soul

    The true difference in “Thick & Fat” is from the Soul folks perspective.  To yt’s we’re all fat and who give a dayum….But yet, they go out and purchase the supposedly fat parts of our bodies.

    Runteldat!

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/jazzwatch/ jazzwatch

    i know some ladies out there who is NOT the model size, but is WELL PROPORTIONED in the areas(butt, thighs breast), and have that FLAT stomachs…it’s not only thick, but it’s also PHAT ;)……

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/DEAHNAISLAND/ DEAHNAISLAND

    Ive never considered myself to be a small person but Ive been call thick, plus size, what ever you wanna call it everyone has there own opinions. Its all about being confident and loving the skin you are in. What one person says is thick another may not agree. As long as you are happy with yourself, that’s all that matters.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/igotwavesbrah/ igotwavesbrah

    That’s a gawd damn lie! ROFL!

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/thaflyestmoor/ thaflyestmoor

    Right On Bruh couldn’t said it better! That was Well written!

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/sugar_but_nice/ sugar_but_nice

    HELLO I AGREE WITH WHAT MY BROTHA SAID MISTA WRITEONTIME! HE PUT IT PERFECTLY AND WOW! THAT’S GREAT TO KNOW THAT BUT I’VE ALWAYS KNOWN I WAS THICK AND NOT FAT AND IT IS A DIFFERENCE BUT I’M ME SWEET PERSON WELL LIKED AND A GREAT DRESSER ALWAYS LOOK GOOD AND SMELL GOOD WELL GROOMED! I WAS TAUGHT AS A LITTLE GIRL HOW TO TAKE CARE OF ME BY MY MOTHER AND THAT ADDS TO WHO YOU ARE AND I’M ALSO A CONFIDENT PERSON SO LADIES THICK OR FAT AS THEY MAY SAY LOVE YOU FOR YOU!

     BE YOURSELF I’VE JUST LOST 75LBS. AND I’M LOVING IT BUT ALSO GETTING A LOT OF ATTENTION BUT I WAS GETTING ALL THAT ATTENTION WHEN I WAS 75LBS. HEAVIER BECAUSE I CARRIED MYSELF LIKE A DIVA AND DRESSED WELL AND FELT WELL AND HEY JUST BE YOURSELF WHOM GOD MOLDED YOU TO BE AND YES EXERCISE WE ALL CAN USE THAT EVEN THE SKINNY WOMEN LOVE YOU SOME YOU CUZ I LOVE ME SOME ME….WINK!

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/BakkByPopularDemand/ BakkByPopularDemand

    LMAO!   This is the BEST post on here!!!!   

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/BakkByPopularDemand/ BakkByPopularDemand

    spoken like a true fat person……

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/BakkByPopularDemand/ BakkByPopularDemand

    wait, you said you’re overweight, then you said you dont over eat?  Maybe you just UNDER exercise right?

    I think all that fat has you confused….lemme guess, you have a thyroid problem?

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/BakkByPopularDemand/ BakkByPopularDemand

    spoken like a true fat person…..

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/BakkByPopularDemand/ BakkByPopularDemand

    I love how yall writing 4 page essays trying to break this down…..LOL!

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/Tru__lover/ Tru__lover

    To be honest just look at them, there is definitely a difference between the too. Thick women are heavy but properly proportioned where as a fat women is just big and heavy without any muscle tone at all “trying not to be offensive”. I wouldn’t say that fat is a horrible thing though, personally I’ll date them all.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/roman803/ roman803

    lmao,i love you

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/roman803/ roman803

    i dont think thats it.real rap if ur big it just cant be in your neck and stomach.its a very few big girls that knows have to demand attn when they dress.85% of big girls they are dead wrong in the s**t they wear.(sex appeal is a motherf**ker and confidence is the key)

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/roman803/ roman803

    i’ve never seen a fat skelton

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/omai70/ omai70

    jeez here we go again
    if you cant walk up stairs to your floor if the lift in your office is broke WITHOUT being out of breath
    if you gut hangs over…
    if you are eating large plates of food without  doing any form of exercise
    if you wear clothes that make you look like your are floating down the street
    instead of your figure…
    YOU AINT THICK!!!

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/Harley_Davi_Girl/ Harley_Davi_Girl

    I totally agree, there are some men that are fat, but men are more visual and therefore women tend to be more self-concious about there body, but some that are over weight have glad problems or even health problems, the thing is just love yourself.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/Harley_Davi_Girl/ Harley_Davi_Girl

    There are some big women who attract men, mostly men who love big girls, thick has always been a word men used to describe a women with curves  in all the right places, some words in my mother’s day was “brick house”.  I think you have to love yourself and if you don’t work on it, get on the treadmill, get active and change it for yourself not others.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_TSRUNWKFBDGQBU3TICJHRE4YNQ Good Sam

    THICK IS HAVING ADIPOSE TISSUE IN ALL THE RIGHT PLACES. A LITTLE EXTRA HIP, SOME THIGHS TO ACCENTUATE YOUR SHAPE. SOME NICE SIZE TA-TA’S AND LITTLE BELLY FAT. EITHER WAY, WE ARE ALL HUMAN AND SHOULD BE JUDGED BY THE CONTENTS OF OUR CHARACTER AND NOT BY OUR OUTTER PHYSICAL APPEARANCE. LOOKING ON THE OUTSIDE AND NOT ON THE INSIDE, TO ME, IS THE LEADING CAUSE OF DIVORCE IN AMERICA. YOU ARE MARRYING A PRETTY FACE BUT LIVING WITH THE DEVIL. THE DEVIL WILL ALWAYS BE APPEALING TO THE EYE… IF YOU SEARCH FOR LOVE BASED ON PERSONALITY YOU WILL HAVE INNER PEACE. IT WON’T BE PERFECT BUT YOU JUST MIGHT FIND YOUR SOULMATE.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/Plus_sizeQT/ Plus_sizeQT

    Yeah i should excercise more, but genetics has alot to do with people being overweight…most of my family is, and has resulted in me having a low metabolism. I used to not be this way. I gained weight in middle school when I stopped playing sports and was spending more time socializing and doing homework. Im not gonna put blame on everyone else. I should have kept up with softball and cheerleading. Also, healthy food is expensive. My house hold income isnt but so much. However, I have been changing my life style and I have been losing weight (50 pound to be exact)…not that it should concern you. Why do you have to be so negative toward bigger people? Hell, you dont even know me and you’re actin like im not even a human being. Fat people have feelings too. If you can’t say nothing nice, dont say anything at all.

  • Anonymous

    Over eat, under exercise, or thyroid problem aren’t the only possible explanations.  I am never going to date a big girl.  First of all I am married, but even if I wasn’t I am just not attracted to them.  I know plenty of guys who are though.  Regardless, they are human beings with feelings and we all have value well beyond physical appearance.  Some people naturally have a mesomorphic body type.  They require MUCH more exercise to speed up their metabolism and even then they can’t speed it up to the same degree that many others can with far less exercise.  Some folks have narrower skeletal structure while others have larger skeletal structure.  Even if they have low body fat, they will still have broader shoulders than average or wider hips.  The point is, you are sadly mistaken in your generalizations and your callousness toward people who don’t fit the standards with which you pompously think others obliged to comply says more about you than them.

  • supersonicx40

    Thick is the same thing as being fat. I go by weight charts. If you above what is posted on the ideal weight and height then you are overweight. Americans just like making excuses on their weight because majority of them are FAT.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/soultry-soul/ soultry-soul

    “The BLACKWOMAN getting fat as hell while the WHITEWOMAN in the GYM looking slim to get your man. And the Blackman done turned into a damn F****T so his woman turns to another woman or a whiteman”

    And you really think all that is a direct result of someone’s weight? 
    I know you typed it months ago…I just seriously wondering if you were serious!

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/soultry-soul/ soultry-soul

    B…this is some old recycled shyt.  However, I’m scrolling and every post of yours has me rollin.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/Seahag/ Seahag

    Thickness is not the same as being fat. 

    Thick:  Jennifer Hudson (at a size 16), Toccora, Serena Wms., Lisa Raye’s daughter, etc.

    Fat:  Precious, Nell Carter, etc.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/mondobuddy21/ mondobuddy21

    I LOVE ABBW OR THICK WOMEN & ONE REASON WHY IS THAT ALL THE WOMEN IN MY FAMILY ARE BIG& BEAUTIFUL ANOTHER REASON WHY IS THAT I,M SKINNY DUDE I CAN,T DO NOTHIN WITH NO WOMEN SMALLER TAN ME & THE LAST & FINALLY I LOVE A THICK WOMEN CAUSE THERE,S SO MUCH WOMAN TO LOVE & TO HANDLE

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/freelancepimp/ freelancepimp

    Serena is thick! Now would we call har fat? F

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/Anarkis-EbenFlow/ Anarkis-EbenFlow

    but what if I like fat girls ???

    lol.

    just sayin.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/killasweet82/ killasweet82

    they are not the same! sloppy and quick to bust a sweat is very different from shapely and can quickly make a man bust a nut while on top!

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/killasweet82/ killasweet82

    a thick women is fat in all the right places(titties,ass,thighs) and a fat woman is just sloppy everywhere!

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  • http://www.blackplanet.com/MzMills/ MzMills

    I think the difference is when you go from that hourglass shape to blueberry.  Many would say that, if you’re not built like a mop handle you’re fat.  But I don’t think that’s accurate.  Either way, if you’re happy with you, surrounded by people who love you the way you are, and healthy (good cholesterol and sugar #s) I wouldn’t obsess about it :)

    No body beat me up for my answer.  I hourglass in the spring and blueberry from Thanksgiving til about the middle of January!  But I like me and my labwork tells me I’m very healthy so that’s alright ;~)

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/drkchokolate_10/ drkchokolate_10

    Lmao I was just thinking the other day that I’m so damn tired of fat azz chics calling themselves thick. GTFOOHWTBS.lol

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Christian-Howell/802349586 Christian Howell

    The difference is Monique in the TV show and Monique in Precious.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/Seahag/ Seahag

    “Blueberry”?  AH HA HA HA HA. 

    As far as the changes in your size throughout the year, I go through the same thing.  I think it’s especially true for people who live in seasonal climate states.  I live in Michigan, so when autum hits, I’m eating “heavier” foods like stews and pastas.  I work out though.  Still, I have to work out harder since I’m getting older (over 35!).

    If you are healthy and happy with yourself, that’s great!  When you are happy, people can tell and they gravitate toward it. 

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/Seahag/ Seahag

    It’s not just big girls who consider themselves to be ‘thick’ use terms that you may not think are accurate. 

    Once, I joined a dating site and included men who were from “average” size to  “thick” and “a few extra lbs”.  When I searched the results, I couldn’t believe how many obese men considerd themselves to fall under the latter two catagories.  There were even many guys who were mildly or moderately overweight who considered themselves to be “average” in size! 

    Men have just as distorted view of themselves as women have.   

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/Icon-2010/ Icon-2010

    Thick and fat are the same…borderline obese….

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    this article is ignorant and a subliminal way to get people to click on the story and fight on the message boards…..thick =  waist is small enough to see curves of the body and above average everything else …fat = big and strutted ham sandwhich of a person….~end of story~

  • http://www.facebook.com/KevinBankheadBarnett Kevin Bankhead Barnett

    Thick and fat is two different things. If u think otherwise u are stupid PERIOD!

  • http://www.facebook.com/KevinBankheadBarnett Kevin Bankhead Barnett

    Not true cause i dont like skinny women at all.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100002295992210 Gregory Datingwomensex

    Alyssa I goggled your name and think I say a picture of you
    in a purple dress, you are fat. Just love yourself for what you are. I find
    that on online dating sites, fat women lye and say they are thick. Fat women
    will put up old high school pictures just to be let down when you meet them.
    The big deal here is fat women lying to themselves and most importantly men,
    that they are thick.

     

    What separates thick from fat? Simple, your proportions. The
    hip to butt ratio, the hip to breast ratio. There is somebody for everybody.
    Fat women just embrace your body and you will find someone for you.

  • http://www.blackplanet.com/MAXAMIL1/ MAXAMIL1

    Because men don’t try to come up with code words other than what thinks truly are. If your FAT say your Fat. You choose to be Fat, There is not a BBW index. There is not a Fluffy index.
    However there is a FAT index at your doctor office. People want to keep it real. Accept
    WHEN IT COME TO THEMSELVES. You are what you are. If your using cute word to hide what you are. Your ashamed . If you get mad if some one says your FAT your ashamed. You can lie to others but don’t lie to yourself.

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  • http://www.facebook.com/vladimir.greene Vladimir Greene

    Hell no it aint the same thing…Look and Andressa Soares from brazil she is thick…then Look and Monique…that is fat. Please ladies know the difference. If you look like you can eat your meal and your mans in one sitting than u are fat…..Heres a question. If i was 300 pounds of fat would u date me…hell no….same thing with women….i dont care how beautiful u are on the inside fat is down right ugly

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